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Sale instead of Thornton? Okay. We shall see. Chris has been doing much better recently.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:32 PM) Pierre should of got the same treatment weeks ago. Except he always hustles and busts his butt. It's just that he's lost 2 steps or more in the last 12 months. Pierre would never, ever be benched for laziness by Ozzie. Why didn't Floyd try to tag him?

Lillibridge now in CF. Maybe Ozzie's monitoring our game thread, lol.

8 in a row retired. Now folks, we've reached the stretch in the typical White Sox game where we've let the other pitcher off the hook so many times that we just sleepwalk offensively through 2-3 innings.

Have we given up more leads than any team in baseball from the 6th inning on?

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:05 PM) Guy's got 2 errors, s*** happens Doesn't Rios play for Puerto Rico in the World Baseball Classic? Let me ask you this. Would you ever see Roberto Clemente make a half-assed play like that, even when he was 38 years in 1972?

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:01 PM) I imagine you would be a heck of a centerfielder, I'm starting to agree it's getting old. Ok bad play complain and move on, man there's gonna be 5 pages in th thread on the rios play That would double the entire thread. And it doesn't matter, since the run didn't score. However, Floyd had to throw extra stressful pitches to get out of the inning and the worst part is that Rios can get away with basically anything and Ozzie will never discipline him or bench him. I'll defer to DJ, a former outfielder and never one to rip on Sox players too much. "What's going on there? That's a play that simply has to be made, no excuses."

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:59 PM) +1 You honestly think Rios has played well in CF compared to 2009 or 2010? And your main measurement of that is only 2 errors committed? Really?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:58 PM) Outside of Pierre the Sox defense has been pretty great. When Alexei is one of your bigger liabilities it really says something, im pretty sure Beckham is leading the league at 2b in fielding. The one thing that doesn't take into account is AJ's play, particularly his inability to throw out runners even on pitchouts. Quentin is definitely better this year, though. Hard to be worse than last year. Maybe JD at the end.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:57 PM) That had nothing to do with being lazy, it hit him in the heel of the glove. He has 2 errors the entire season, once in a while a ball is going to bounce out of a mitt. He did about 5 things wrong on ONE SINGLE PLAY. If you're not going to hit and you're not going to hustle down the line...the least you can do for $12 million is protect your pitcher.

Rios, really? This ball has to be put away with ease. Misjudged it from the beginning, bad route, bad timing, lost sight of it and couldn't correct. What are the odds they DON'T tie the game or take the lead? Plus, Rios can't even be bothered to hustle down the line. Ozzie really needs to bench him for a week just to show him that the game needs to be respected. Ozzie is always so quick to put Beckham or Morel or Viciedo (last year) on the bench, but he won't ever do that to veterans, because he doesn't want to "disrespect" them.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:53 PM) it's beyond snake bit, we're jinxed Which is why most believe it's more logical to shake things up SOMEHOW than simply just continue to keep pounding round pegs into square holes.

Feels like the offense is repeating the pattern of 90% of our losses. Choke on scoring opportunities early...opposing bullpen shuts us down...figure out a way to blow the game in innings 6-9. There's your lead, Gavin. Do your job, the game is yours to win.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) Way to go Juan! As much as we hate him, I always say he's the one guy on the team who's better when they pull the ball. He also almost hit a walkoff homer down the line against the Nationals. But those 4-3 grounders, not so good. Please Carlos, no DP grounder, no DP grounder.

DJ miffed about the "fake" Darrin Jackson profiles at twitter and myspace (not that anyone uses that anymore). Wow, an unbelievable Pierre extra base hit with RISP. Goodbye, Viciedo for another month. Odds we get this run with 1 out? Morel already failed in this situation previously.

Can Pierre actually make any catch look effortless? Glad we drafted the "next Devon White" in Walker because I'm not sure how much more of Pierre that I can actually take. All he needs to add is Pods' pitty-patter steps and Soriano's hop/jump and it would be perfectly horrible. Farmer claims he's cured Beckham's "swing loop" now. 2 for 2.

Dick Allen should be all over this. If they REALLY were unable to locate $5.5 million for a one-off payment, you'd almost have to wonder if there was some McCourt-esque personal money-laundering going on behind the scenes...well beyond the things with Wilder we already know about.

God, Farmer is the worst name-dropper in the world since Joan Rivers. So tedious.

I was about to write "uh-oh" in the Juan Pierre/steroids suggestion thread only to find it was already closed. Maybe Floyd will pitch better in a "tight" 1-0 game than 3-0, since he tends to relax when he gets a bigger lead and give up a crooked number. The "spin" for this game is already that the Tigers have lost, so it doesn't matter if we lose too, we're not giving up any ground. Maybe everyone needs the CarGo "fauxhawk" hairstyle to snap out of this? Not sure if that should be in green or not.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 07:19 PM) Time for a crooked number, as Hammel's stuff is pretty mediocre tonight. Very nice, short swing by Quentin. Thanks for jinxing the inning. Seriously, how many times in the last decade have we said that about a pitcher's stuff, most recently Livan Hernandez. We usually match up excellently (until this year) against pitchers with great fastballs, it's the junkballers that kill us.

Fathom, do you think Morel will still be the White Sox starter at 3B in 2015? In some ways he's been pretty lucky that Pierre, Beckham, Dunn and Rios have struggled so much, because Brian Anderson took a lot more heat for better offensive numbers in 2006 since everyone else in that line-up was raking.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:09 PM) DP no matter who it is. Well, maybe not Jose Reyes the way he's going. Already with 15 triples. Maybe KW should acquire only players in the final year of their contracts?

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 07:58 PM) I can't reiterate how awesome it is that WHO here in Iowa is picking up all the WCIU games. This is just wonderful, even if this team pisses me off all the time. That's very strange, there have always been more Cubs and Twins fans in that part of Iowa. I'd venture to say more Royals and Cardinals fans, even. We never had a Sox station in the Quad Cities. The closest was Geneseo, IL. It drove me crazy, because 1000 AM was hard to get a good signal, 670 no problems. Well, at least Morel made a very good defensive play and solid contact in his first AB.

Apparently Farmer's now getting into the act with Beckham. He claimed that he took him aside and said, "DJ and I feel that you're best defensive second baseman in the league." And then something along the lines of don't ever show that the pitchers have got you down, don't feel sorry for yourself or sulk in the dugout. Go out and get 'em. It worked, haha. Now 3 for his last 26.

Well, I suppose Jason Bay might be a worse contract for a hitter who was at a similar level to Dunn (consistent 30+ homers) and just fell completely off the map. Would anyone trade Dunn for Bay? I don't think many. Bay at least plays a position, and Viciedo/Quentin could DH, too. DENVER — Struggling designated hitter Adam Dunn played golf with White Sox sports psychologist Jeff Fishbein on a recent day off. “He’s actually real good, so that added more stress to my life, golfing with him,” Dunn said Tuesday. Good to know he has a good short game, but can he fix Dunn’s swing? Is he a good shrink? “I talked to him a little bit,” Dunn said. “It works for different people. I don’t know if it works for me, but you know, I have talked with him, and I even golfed with him. I like him. [but] I don’t know what’s a good [sports psychologist]. It’s my first run-in with one.” Dunn struck out four times against the Washington Nationals on Sunday, raising his AL-leading total to 100. He’s 2-for-26 with 16 strikeouts in his last seven games. “I just need to go back to basics and quit thinking,” Dunn said. “It’s not me. I’m not a thinker. I have to see it, hit the damn thing and not make it so complicated.” With no DH in Colorado, manager Ozzie Guillen gave Dunn the night off. He probably will play in the last game of the Sox’ series at Colorado, replacing whomever Guillen believes needs a day off most among left fielder Juan Pierre, right fielder Carlos Quentin and first baseman Paul Konerko, Guillen said. “I’m not giving up, I promise you,” Dunn said. ‘‘There’s still a lot of baseball left. We put ourselves in position where guys who have been struggling have to step it up.” Space oddity Guillen doesn’t believe in playing his outfielders deep at spacious Coors Field. “Coming here, I think it was a mistake people made when they play deep,” Guillen said. “They make a big hole between the infield and the outfield. I think you should play normal. They played deep because the ball carries. Well, if the ball is over your head, it’s a home run. Make sure you catch the balls in front of you.” So how does that explain the no double outfield in the late innings that resulted in Lillibridge's play? (my comment) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/6231215-419...rinks-game.html Article about why the Sox can't give up and bench Dunn by Morissey http://www.suntimes.com/sports/6229378-419...staying-in.html Sounds like he was reading the Sox message boards and gauging opinions what's wrong with Dunn.