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Maybe all the positive media attention from was the jinx for the White Sox? Funny to read that article now...but at least we didn't go down 4 games. Should have great crowds or sellouts against the Yankees this weekend hopefully.

This is not unlike the situation in 2005 with El Duque and Brandon McCarthy...until Hernandez broke down the Contreras and Brandon carried the team down the stretch with some huge starts.

Floyd on Friday either Richard or Danks on Saturday (Danks on normal rest, Richard on five days) either Richard, Danks or Buerhle on Sunday (you'd have to think Danks' start Monday would determine what direction they go in, although they could push back Mark, you'd have to think he would go on normal rest Sunday, and he obviously loves to pitch in the big, showcase type games against teams like the Yankees and Red Sox)

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 11:09 PM) The decision to potentially use Colon over Richard is incredibly disturbing. Unless they're shipping CR’s ass out of town next week, he needs to be in this rotation. What does the organization have to gain by using Colon over Richard? They stand to lose more by dropping a young, hard-throwing lefty whose experience success at the back-end of a major league rotation, for an aged, fat pitcher with one pitch.. He doesn't even really have that one pitch, because at 84-90 MPH, it's below MLB average. Bartolo's just getting by with movement, and he's mixing in a few more offspeed pitches than earlier in the season, which was the focus of his "rehab."

So if Colon pitches WED and Contreras on THUR against the Yankees...they'll have the decision to start Richard on an extra day's rest or rest Danks for an extra day, same with Buehrle, who would go Sunday (you know he loves to pitch against NY) or be pushed back into the next series. Interesting decisions coming up. I guess it's better to go with Contreras agains the Yankees than the Twins...

QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 09:49 PM) I wouldn't be shocked if that was the last game Richard ever pitches for the Sox. KW's ego almost DEMANDS he makes a splash every year at this time. I just worry that getting Halladay might end up being a disaster for this franchise....if we could do it without giving up Beckham/Ramirez/Flowers/Danks/Viciedo, though...I might be okay with it. Haren would be a much better acquisition for the long-term competitive stability of this team.

We need to give Quentin time to get his hitting stroke bat. Between the wrist injury and now this, he likely won't be "good/okay/fine" until spring training next year. Trading him would be insane now...at his lowest possible value? And no team wants to risk giving up talent with the injury history he's had.

where did anyone read that Colon would start against the Twins on WED? the twins' website has jose contreras listed as the starter? they are holding Jose for the first game of the Yankees series? if they don't go with Clayton and use Colon, it will be worse than skipping Buehrle for Cotts at Yankee Stadium in 2003

We really are letting Porcello have it easy now. Wish Alexei's ball would have gone out, that would have put him on the ropes for sure. This kind of game where we stop scoring runs early and let the opponent creep back into it has been a scary likelihood recently with our sagging bullpen.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 07:20 PM) That was an excellent job by Richard and Pods to limit the damage. Do you think Clayton Richard will still be in the starting rotation for the Chicago White Sox in late July, 2010?

Porcello with only 1 or 2 innings left. 82 pitches heading into the top of the 5th.

Pods and Wise have played some CF defense this year in DET. Limiting the damage to just one run the way this inning was looking would be a great accomplishment.

Monday John Danks versus Glen Perkins. The tale of two talented lefties coming off injury problems, Danks with the blister/circulatory issue and Perkins with more troubling shoulder tendinitis and a visit to Dr. Lewis Yocum. We all know about John's problems pitching in the Metrodome. Tuesday Buehrle versus Baker Baker beat the White Sox his last start against us, but he's got a career 6.88 ERA against the Sox. Coming off perfect game, what will happen? Wednesday Bartolo Colon versus Liriano Liriano 0-3 with an 8.00 ERA career against the White Sox, 4-10 with a 5.56 ERA on the season and struggling mightily. If the White Sox were to lose the first two, we should definitely go with Contreras in this game. I can't believe Colon is in the rotation over Torres and Richard...or maybe we will start Richard SAT at home agains the Yankees? Thankfully, we don't see Blackburn. Swarzak has taken the place of Slowey.

Richard with a fairly economical (for him) 45 pitches through 3 IP. 7 IP would be great....although we have to keep in mind his pitch count and arm stress his last time out there.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:53 PM) This might be 1 of 2 or 3 OF's in the big leagues that are large enough that a ball could bounce away from an OF and PK would have a legit shot at a triple. PETCO, Safeco, SF Giants' stadium? Batters are hitting .293 now against Porcello this season, .283 against Richard. ERA is also very close now, 4.84 for Clayton, 4.74 for Porcello.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:46 PM) While out of town the last four days all I had to say to the people I was with was that the pen is down but the hitting needs to be better. This team needs to score to win. 4 runs are better than the Toronto Texas days but they need to but a hurt on a team and keep it up for all 9 innings. Let's keep the line rolling. Losing this game would be the equivalent of the Cubs' loss from a 5-1 lead and the Twins' blown 10 run lead to the collective psyche of the organization. We've already lost at least two heartbreakers to the Tigers this season, and we really SHOULD have won the 2nd game of the DH.

Okay, Richard, please don't give up a 3 run bomb to the BA/Rowand/Crede of DET fans' hearts, Brandon Inge. I really hate that guy. But, despite his 21 homers, Gordon Beckham has an OPS almost 30 points higher than Inge. Correct that, 840 (Inge) to 813 (Beckham)...I was looking at Brandon's career line, not this season.

Ankiel, Blalock, Huff and Matsui would probably be the four best options, along with Dunn. Of course, there's been a lot of fascination with Abreu over the years, and Vladimir Guerrero undoubtedly will be an interesting decision for the Angels...and then there's Figgins. Tempting to go after Vladdy, we always get superstars about 3-5 years too late in their careers (Griffey, R. Alomar, Thome, etc.) I guess I would take a Figgins/Dunn offseason, although Figgins/Dunn/Crisp would also make me happy.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:37 PM) yeah but i still think his stats will be out Gordo's to this point if the season ended today Porcello's at 4.8 now. No way they give a ROY award to a pitcher with a 5+ ERA.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:35 PM) ehhh...i still think porcello has more of a chance to win ROY than Beckham right now Andrus, Romero and Getz also figure into the discussion...although Gordon has already passed Chris in the eyes of many, in terms of momentum. Perhaps Wieters could get really hot too, but players on contending teams usually have an advantage (Berroa/Matsui vote notwithstanding).

2 iron laser into the LF bullpen area that barely cleared the inner wall...way to go Gordo, let's bury these guys and have an ESPN White Sox "love fest" tonight instead of being on pins and needles in the late innings wondering how/when/if we'll blow the lead.

If Porcello is shut down (19 runs given up in his last 3+ outings) for awhile, then they have Zach Miner, Robertson (rehabbing), Willis (well, that's not TOO likely) and Bonderman (rehabbing) as the back of their rotation, along with the rookie pitcher French. Beckham and Getz staying at Grosse Point home of the Getz Family this weekend, FWIW.

Richard has a 1.38 ERA in the first inning. We know he's USUALLY good early. It's the bullpen that scares you...a 10-1 victory would be a godsend. We've blown at least 3-4 games in our last two series (Wise out at home, lack of hitting with RISP, Jenks and Linebrink meltdowns, etc.) You'd have to think Richard coming back to the land of Maize and Blue (and Getz, too) would really charge them up for tonight's game on a national stage, especially after the embarassment of the first 3 games.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:58 PM) Brandon Allen wont be a middle of the order hitter. How can you be so sure about that? Beckham is projected by everyone to be a #3 hitter, and I would be hard pressed to believe he will ever get much above 850 for an OPS. The guy is not Chase Utley or Hector Reborn (reference to Gladiator/Troy). I know JPN and some of the minor league people were really upset about his loss, and also his recent return to form for the DBacks' AAA affiliate.

If we're going to make this move for Haren or Halladay or "mystery pitcher" (like Garland), then we need to do it ASAP before we go into the next week of games... Definitely okay with trying someone like Pena instead of Dotel and using that money elsewhere. The only (and obvious) problem with that is the current level of shakiness with Linebrink and Jenks.