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Melton was right about one thing. We couldnt't beat Sabathia. And the fact that he can now pronounce Viciedo's first name. That's marked improvement there. It's official KW. We have no CFer. Just in case you hadn't noticed. Take that back...Wise 2/4 with a homer and extra base hit in the B game against the Dodgers in the morning. He's officially the first option right now in Guillen's mind at least. Bad jump by Owens but he finally gets there. Some of his sliders have been flat...the one to the third hitter was much more effective. Not quite as good as Marte's slurve from the side when he could locate it, but it could be at least serviceable. Still don't think he's close to starting at the big league level yet, though.

Poreda would be better served refining his offspeed stuff in the minors. No news there. He has almost the same exact approach and look as Thornton without quite the same velocity, just a tick slower. The Sox would be better off with the much different look/repertoire of Richard as the 2nd lefty at this point. Reyes looks like he might have a rebound year this season with the Indians.

Viciedo hung in there pretty well against the curveball...that FB to finish him off was perfectly located on the outside corner. Viciedo at .250 now.

Getting old. I guess this must be Mickey Brantley's son.

Viciedo 5/19 on the spring, nice approach taking the ball up the middle. Getz atones for his error...and Betemit. Lillibridge dumps a ball into RCF. Whatever Ramirez, Viciedo and Beckham have in terms of the ball jumping off the bat...Owens has the exact opposite.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 9, 2009 -> 02:31 PM) Melton do your homework, Westbrook is out for quite awhile. Out until at least the ASB. The spots are for Pavano, Laffey, Sowers, Reyes, Jackson or S. Lewis. 3 of those 6.

Jesus, the infield defense this inning has been atrocious. I think I would rather see Viciedo at 3B than Betemit. I guess the only place we can play him is 1B.

How did Australia beat Mexico by 10 runs? That's a big surprise...not quite like the Netherlands over DR, but close. Don't know much about Randy Williams...I think he's pitched twice this spring and hasn't given up a run yet, lefty, non-roster invitee, will undoubtedly end up in Charlotte as roster filler.

Danks had 22 outings last year when he gave up 0-1-2 runs....tied for Cliff Lee for first. That's impressive. Looked like Lillibridge had that until the last hop...can't believe he didn't at least knock it down and keep the runner at 2nd.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb Bauman knows the White Sox very well and usually comes up with some pretty longer decent articles.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Mar 8, 2009 -> 10:28 PM) um, the name is pronounced the way we americans decide it's pronounced. Weren't you in Gran Torino?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 9, 2009 -> 07:23 AM) Fields has totally out preformed Viciedo this point of spring training. Not only has he had a huge edge in the field, but he is out hitting him as well. Viciedo has the two impressive long balls, but not really much else. I know its a small sample size and all, but this really isn't a competition, in my mind, to this point. Actually, Viciedo has been playing very well defensively since the first 2-3 games out there. It is Flowers that has really been atrocious. Josh has hit well, but he has been pulling everything. Yes, it seems he's quicker to the ball (with the exception of some wild strikeouts in his last game)...but everything he's hit has been to 3B/SS/LF. I would much prefer to see him sometimes take the ball to the opposite field, like Beckham and Ramirez are really good at. He seems to be pull hooking everything. If he can't go to the opposite field, they'll start throwing everything down and away and pepper him with offspeed junk like BA. He has hit two of the most impressive homers of the spring, and he's got a cannon for an arm. In fact, his first step quickness at 3B is a little bit better than Josh already, just from what I've observed. All that said, Fields has certainly done nothing to LOSE the job, but I wouldn't say he's totally dominated Viciedo, either. Viciedo's not like Konerko or Carlos Lee down there, that's for sure. From Scott Merkin/chisox.com Asked for the early surprise of camp, Walker paused momentarily but then selected Josh Fields' consistency at the plate as his choice. It's not so much about Fields picking up hits here and there but more a focus on the steadiness of his philosophy with the bat. According to Fields, it's his approach with two strikes that has changed and left him more comfortable. Fields fanned over 100 times in each of his four full seasons in the White Sox organization, including 185 strikeouts over 578 at-bats between stops at Triple-A Charlotte and with the White Sox in 2007. This new game plan has Fields shortening his stroke with two strikes and just trying to make contact. He struck out for the first two times this spring on Sunday against the Dodgers. "I'm getting down in my stance, squatting more, and seeing the ball a lot better," Fields said. "And when I'm down there, I can't have a long swing. "A lot of it is throwing the bat out there and making contact. I used to take big shots with two strikes, trying to hit it too far, but it makes a big difference getting the bat out there and giving yourself a chance. "Put the ball in play and good things happen," Fields said. "A guy trips going for the ball or can't get to the ball. It ends up working out for you." Better mechanics also have buoyed Fields' cause, according to Walker. "Josh Fields has probably made the most improvement and solidified his mechanics and been as consistent as any player we have in camp," Walker said. "I think he's gotten more consistent with his lower body. He's in a better position to hit. "In the past, he's done some things with his lower half that affected his swing plane. The talent has been there but his swing plane and lower half has been more consistent. So far he has been really good with it. He's a big strong kid and doesn't need a lot of extra, so we've been trying to calm that down and eliminate some of it. So far, he's looked as consistent as I've seen him."

V for Vendetta was okay (maybe because I can watch anything Natalie Portman's in), but League of Extraordinary Gentleman was borderline horrible and certainly a disappointment both critically and with the box office as well. Unrealistically, Watchmen was hyped as a contender to 300's records and beyond in the media. 300 was the previous picture from Watchmen's director Zack Snyder and was prominently cited in Watchmen's advertising. However, just because a picture has a massive marketing campaign or a fervent fan base doesn't mean it's going to be a blockbuster. 300 set the March opening benchmark at $70.9 million on around 4,800 screens at 3,103 sites (which included $3.6 million at 62 IMAX venues). While technically 300 was a comic book adaptation like Watchmen, that's where the similarities ended, because 300 was first and foremost promoted as a harrowing, clearly-wrought tale based in history with a then-striking visual style. As visually punchy as Watchmen's marketing tried to be, the movie's story was left obscure to the uninitiated. Considering that style and mystery took precedence over clarity and relatability, Watchmen's opening was swell. Eventually, ads vaguely revealed that someone was killing off superheroes and that the Watchmen had to figure out why. However, the superheroes in question were not previously well known to the general public, making it an uphill battle to earn audience investment, especially given the picture's ensemble nature. Typically, the biggest superhero movies are the ones where the superheroes are already ingrained in the culture, like The Dark Knight, Spider-Man, Superman and X-Men. Watchmen's source material had a following but never reached a high level of cultural saturation. What's more, the advertising presented no heroes to root for and no villains to root against (a potent combination that worked like gangbusters with The Dark Knight); instead raising the question "will they save us or destroy us?" www.boxofficemojo.com

Lillibridge is supposed to be back and starting at SS after returning from the ubiquitous "flu-like" symptoms. Beckham , not sure if he will be the B game in the morning against the Dodgers or the afternoon game. Nix will be back Tuesday or Wednesday from the quad strain. "I feel fine," Beckham said of playing second base. "I still have to work on the feeds a little bit. I still have to work on getting my feet underneath me and making sure I'm throwing a strike over to first. If I can do that, I think I'll be all right." www.suntimes.com/sports

I think the case can be made by the Twins that they gave him ample opportunity early in the season...and he proved he wasn't ready. Therefore, in their minds, they were justified in being "conservative" with him because they wanted to make sure he was 100% before the recall. Actually, while he mowed down quite a few subpar offenses (he did beat the Rays once), he wasn't nearly as dominating as one would think and he lost a crucial game to the Royals (I think it was Friday night of the final weekend) that was one of many "lost" games for the Sox and Twins down the stretch that turned out to be crucial. Livan Hernandez was horrible statistically, but he kept winning games the first three months. They had Slowey, Baker, Perkins and Blackburn...along with Bonser...so they didn't have to bring him back. In retrospect, you substitute the last 6 weeks of Hernandez for Liriano and the Twins probably win the division, but there were tons of "what ifs" surrounding the White Sox, too (Quentin's injury being one of many).

Cubano, obviously I read your response as taking a shot at the White Sox for being hypocrites about Viciedo. Well, they've invested MORE money into Viciedo for LESS years, so why wouldn't they start him if he was truly ready? You don't think Ozzie and KW want to win badly enough, or that they'd prefer to go through another 2007 again, especially when that will have real consequences for the season ticket base of renewals in 2010? Not on your life, they're going to make the correct decision after assessing all the factors with both Viciedo and Beckham. Viciedo, according to most (not just Peter Bjarkman) actually regressed or went backwards over the last couple of years in Cuba...he was overweight by 20-30 pounds at his DR workout...he missed the mandatory weight training session last Monday, he just has some more maturing to do. He's just turning 20 this month. Beckham, on the other hand, has been climbing since the day he was drafted...probably moreso than any player from last year's draft. He played well after he signed, then even better in the Arizona Fall League. Viciedo was being left off the national team, Olympic team, WBC team, etc. Of course, the Cubans knew about his potential ability TOO, moreso than anyone in the US, but they also are in the business of winning now, not next season. All that said, I don't think that Beckham will make this team, although he's certainly shown the ability to hit well and confidently (so far) out of the leadoff spot, albeit in ST, but it's certainly a positive sign. He has flinched or wilted under the pressure. And Jerry Owens has shown no ability to steal bases, so there has to be some consideration to giving Beckham that spot because our biggest need right now is at leadoff. I can't wait until they move Ramirez to CF for Beckham, that will be when it really starts to fly around here!!!! I know you are waiting for that moment Cubano, but I don't think it will come if Ramirez is close to as good as advertised defensively. Just think if you were Josh Fields coming off his 2007 rookie year and you were told you're going to the minors? Don't you think he had more of a reason to be bitter than Viciedo would, since Viciedo hasn't proved anything at all in regular season big league play? I know all players EXPECT and play like they expect to make the team, but I'm sure Jaime Torres has already alerted him to the reality. If Josh Fields wasn't healthy, was having huge fielding problems and looking like Brian Anderson at the plate and Viciedo was sent down, then I would agree with you. But Fields, Nix and Kroeger have been the three best hitters, at least until Beckham's performance yesterday. The other reason, as noted, was that they 1) wanted to get him more at-bats, they said they might do that from 3B as well, which, of course, would aggravate you if it got in the way of Viciedo's PT, and 2) Lillibridge and Nix are both out for now, and Eider Torres needs to give Ramirez a rest in ST.

Usually the movies to me, in this category...are movies that make $100 million, like Hancock or Seven Pounds...except they are disasters. No matter what, Watchmen was going to make $100 milllion domestically...just because of its production budget and advertising budget alone. I won't even use profitability versus losing money, because some might use that standard to say The Reader or Frost/Nixon were utter failures. Part of it is based on expectations...for instance, Valkryie and Marley & Me were successes because they did better than expected. I'm sure Valkryie even had a pretty similar budget (to Watchmen), but I was expecting it to tank and it did reasonably well and stood up decently for an extended run. Paul Blart and Taken did much better, OTOH. I would put this Watchmen movie in the Jonas Brothers category...not a disaster, not a major success, but one that would them think twice about making a second movie, if there was a thought to do that. So I'll leave that as one measure...just like The Golden Compass, the second CS Lewis movie (Prince Caspian)...where there's a reasonable doubt as to a second movie generating a profit. Obviously, that threshold was met by 300 or Transformers. Second, did it do anything but positively affect the careers of the director and the cast? If it is a minor success, then no damage has been done to either...but their careers haven't been significantly advanced, either. I'll use the example of The Village here...it made a lot of money, it was a "success" in many measures, but didn't live up to the Sixth Sense and caused many to start doubting the director's ability to deliver. So even though that movie made a lot of money, it was probably LESS successful than Watchmen will turn out to be. I might even argue that I liked The Fountain more than Watchmen, but it was surely a bomb both critically and at the box office.

Nonetheless, the movie's $55.7 mil take (including $5.5 mil from 124 IMAX screens) is substantially smaller than the $70.9 mil that 300, the last R-rated graphic-novel movie from director Zack Snyder, earned on its opening weekend two years ago. And aside from that theater-count statistic (which almost any film could break at any time, really), there will be no major records to report on this weekend (for example, Watchmen's debut was just the fifth-best opening ever for an R-rated movie). I'd argue, in fact, that this opening is a bit soft, considering the great expectations that came with Snyder's adaptation of Alan Moore's landmark comic book -- not to mention Watchmen's hefty grosses from screenings at midnight on Friday and throughout its first day. After attracting some major initial interest, banking $25.1 mil on Friday, the film's audience dropped off dramatically during the weekend: It grossed $19 mil on Saturday and is expected to bring in just $11.5 mil on Sunday. These are all big numbers, don't get me wrong, but, when combined with the fact that the film got a lukewarm CinemaScore grade of B from an audience that was largely comprised of older men, it all points to a rapid downward trend that may be difficult to reverse in the weeks to come. from ew.com Reality doesn't matter. It's perception. This movie isn't going to go down as a great success, you'll see. You your instincts, you can feel when a movie will be a big commercial success and when it won't, outside of what you think of it as a movie.

wonder what Kershaw did? well, let's hope CQ can pick up the French singer and get 2 RBI's

Walks Ethier but escapes without any further damage. Guess there's an additional B game tmrw morning against the Dodgers tomorrow morning.

Al-i-say kind of like Alicea (Luis) Where's the game thread? By the way, Bill Melton thinks Adam Russell is catching for the Canadian WBC team and out of the Dodgers' line-up.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Mar 8, 2009 -> 01:35 PM) define minor success. 55.7 million in one weekend isnt anything to shake a stick at, even though it trails 300 by 13.2 mil The reason is that I think the movie was "front-loaded" with the die-hard fans coming out the first weekend. I think the dropoff next weekend will be pretty strong, at least 55-65%. It's not the kind of movie that people are going to want to go to see over and over again while it's running in the theatres. It's certainly a thinking/intellectual movie, and one I will watch again SOMEDAY, but not anytime soon. Heck, I would venture Taken might end up having as many people watch that movie twice as Watchmen...and we're coming up on college basketball conference finals and the NCAA tourney, that will also cut a little bit into the next three weekends. Of course, 300 came out exactly two years ago this weekend and had a very good run of sustained success. It's just that many were predicting $70 million plus and better numbers, than 300, so that's why it's going to be termed a disappointment to some. I don't know what the final cost for the project was, the big bonus was that there weren't an big salaries for the stars. Just like 300, with Gerard Butler being the most famous. Ironic, Patrick Wilson and Butler were together in Phantom of the Opera, now they're both graphic novels stars about five years later in the same director's movies. I also don't think it will have the appeal around the world that 300 did. Once again, Watchmen is a better movie, but that doesn't mean as much in Hollywood these days as box office, unless it's earning the studio Academy Awards nominations.

Cunningham has a chance to be another Rowand, which is probably going to end up as better than Ryan Sweeney. He has consistently put up OPS's of around 900 or better, and really did well in AAA at the end of last season. I know Sweeney would be a competent CF (compared to the likes of Everett, Griffey, Swisher and Mackowiak), and he has a better throwing arm and mechanics than Jerry Owens, but I'm not sure he'd be even major league average for that position, probably just a tick under. Cunningham comes with the same problem...although he has better speed than Sweeney and Anderson. It's interesting, because all four of them (including Rowand and Jeremy Reed in the discussion) were thought to be fourth outfielder types at different points in their careers. For such a young lefthanded hitter, we really gave up on Sweeney quickly, but the feeling had to be that USCF wasn't the best fit for him. He belongs in a stadium where he can bang out (eventually) 35-40 doubles. If he can do that, he can still end up at 825-850 in terms of OPS, as long as he hits .280-.310 and gets his share of walks, too. The odds of DLS and Gio making major impacts in their careers...well, neither one has the odds in their favor at this point in their careers, but TJ surgeries are a lot easier to recover from than shoulder/labrum ones (see the article on Schilling in the Trib today for more).

As for Floyd, he has much better raw physical ability than Danks and just about every other pitcher in baseball. If Floyd can keep it together mentally, he's going to win even more games than the eye-popping 17 last season. www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=277539&src=162 That and the insight that we won't see Contreras until May. John Danks was consistently throwing 92-93-94 for most of last season, I don't get where so many people shortchange him and treat him more like Mark Buehrle. He was a first round draft pick, too. I don't think you can make the statement Gregor does simply based on the fact that Floyd has an awesome curveball when it's on, which is about 30-40% of the time. Yes, there are lots of pitchers that have the ability to be the best in baseball based on pure stuff alone, but a little hyperbole for your Sunday morning...I think everyone in White Sox Nation would be pleased as punch if Gavin somehow managed 15 wins this season. Gregor predicting 18 or more? Well, he's out on a limb, I hope he's right.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Mar 8, 2009 -> 12:06 PM) Not the same director at all. Zach Snyder directed Watchmen and James McTeigue directed V for Vendetta(with a lot of help from the producing Wachowski brothers). Thought I read that somewhere. Looking at IMDB, his two most famous are 300 and Dawn of the Dead, which was surprisingly successful. He's already got six movies lined up for the future. I think that Watchmen will go down as a minor success, but it won't make 300's box office domestically or around the world. It's not a story that's "relatable" for many reasons, where there are obvious heros and villains. Cobalt 60 (2011) (announced) Heavy Metal (2010) (announced) The Illustrated Man (2010) (announced) Untitled 300 Sequel (2010) (announced) Sucker Punch (2010) (pre-production) Guardians of Ga'Hoole (2010) (filming)