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Ramirez had a tough play deep to his right but booted it....scored a single. Probably wouldn't have been able to throw him out. Sox out of the inning with no further damage. Lillibridge speared a Sweeney liner that would have been his 8th hit of the spring already. Lillibridge with soft liner/pop that falls in....3/12 now on the season. Ramirez and Quentin a combined 2/20, lol.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 03:01 PM) Gellinger is one of the in dugout instructors, I believe he's a fielding coach. I think he's one of those "hybrid" types that has dual roles...from listening, he does "video scouting" and also works a lot with Greg Walker. But the way they were describing him, he was officially a member of the FO. "The Sox will need 40 years to win the pennant again." --Luis Aparicio, after being traded to the Baltimore Orioles in 1963

Danks with a single through the hole. Allen on 2nd, Danks on 1st. I think ST is really big for all of those pitchers like MacDougal (to get traded, possibly), Carasco, Wasserman, Russell, Marquez, Richard, Poreda, Broadway, Nunez, Jimenez, etc. that are fighting for the final spot or two in the pen. I think Fields has already pretty much been given the starting job. But Viciedo could make things interesting...and we'll continue to dissect the individual performances of Lilli/Nix/Getz and Anderson/Wise/Owens/Danks throughout the spring. By the way, both Contreras and Colon threw 45 pitches today without a problem, bumping up from 30 a couple of days ago.

Viciedo just destroyed another ball to CF. That's 2 400+ foot homers in one week. Wow...he's definitely impressing everyone with his bat and also some patience today. I'm really starting to wish we'd traded Dye for Bailey (I think Jocketty shot it down, or KW couldn't include cash to subsidize it) and that we could stick Viciedo in LF and Quentin in RF.

Put a fork in Lance Broadway. Say hello to Charlotte, you can join Wasserman and Russell. Matt Cassel's brother Justin coming in for the Sox. Sweeney 7/12 on the spring. Mike Gellinger (sp?) from the front office (never heard of him b4 today) and Daryl Boston the 3rd and 1st base coaches today. Mark Gonzales seems to be a big fan of his. I guess his book about the Sox from 1959-08 is coming out soon, "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly." Link for Gonzales' book. http://www.amazon.com/Good-Ugly-Chicago-Wh...0225&sr=1-2 Cassel not doing very well so far...ugly inning. 4-0 A's now. Another Mike MacDougal sighting.

Broadway through 2 IP, gave up a broken bat single to Carter. Allen got eaten up by low and away sliders against the LHP...tough match-up for him. Danks popped out, but made contact on his swings.

Viciedo and Brian Anderson showed good patience and both walked, but Brandon Allen got eaten up by sliders low and away and then Danks popped up with runners on first and second. Tough match-up for Allen against the lefty, sounded like he didn't have much of a chance, didn't even foul off a ball. At least Danks made contact with all of his swings.

I'm sure Myrow will have a huge impact, lol. Maybe David Cook will make an appearance...but I doubt it. I just hope we don't get creamed again so the Tribune will treat the game as if it's somehow significant in any way, shape or form. Somehow the A's announcer had the idea Broadway used to throw 94-96 but has mysteriously lost his velocity. Where that idea came from, I have no idea. Ryan Sweeney 6/10 so far on the spring. Cunningham struck out against Lance. Viciedo and Stewart are the only ones in our line-up over .200 so far. Well, that leads to the whole "pitching dominates early" lectures we hear all ST.

Too bad there's no Score broadcast. It would have been interesting to see if anyone was able to get an interview with Orlando Cabrera. Doubt that would be granted to any of the Chicago media. Lots of ex-Sox in the A's line-up as well, with Cunningham and Carter...no Gio Gonzalez yet, though. Interesting to see Alexei Ramirez hitting 2nd. We'll see what Danks can do in CF. I think it's actually more interesting to hear the visiting radio sometimes because they're a lot more objective about Sox players. Lillibridge hit the ball hard off the pitcher (bad luck) and it went to the 3b apparently for the PO. Down in order, 1-2-3. As usual, Alexei picked on the first pitch and flew out, Quentin with a lazy pop-out to the SS.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 12:13 PM) From looking at his stats in the minors and watching him in limited action so far, Nix looks like he could be a version of Cabrera offensively with somewhat more pop in his bat. Neither one of them lit you on fire with walk totals, steals totals, average, etc. I'm not sure what we can get out of him based on his stats though, it looks like it takes him a long time to adapt every time he gets put in a new level, and that might have hurt him. Your description could also be of Iguchi (although more pop) or Getz, too. None of these guys will put up eye-popping stats, so it's just which player can do the most "little" things that might be the deciding factor. From an offensive standpoint, our best infield would be some combination of Ramirez/Beckham up the middle and PROBABLY Brian Anderson in CF, but that would almost force Beckham into the leadoff spot...that's a lot of pressure to put on Beckham, and he's never going to steal more than 10-15 bases, so the best strategy might be to keep looking for that CFer who can hit leadoff and use some of our depth and/or Konerko/Dye to get him.

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Mar 4, 2009 -> 09:59 AM) May the best player win. May the second best player be versatile enough to be the utility man. May the next best guy be ripping the cover off of the ball in Charlotte chomping at the bit to get a shot if someone stumbles. I'm no longer worried about second base. I'm more worried about Fields and the CF battle. So far, I think it will end up with Nix starting, Getz at utility, and Lillibridge heading to the minors. Beckham will get some time in the minors even if he has a great spring. I'm not very comfortable running Betemit out there 15-20 times at SS. And Ramirez seems like he will be susceptible to wearing down in the 2nd half if we don't rest him enough...especially playing the most physically demanding position on the field after catcher. I really think having Lillibridge on the team provides the most infield versatilty (he can play 2B and SS, Betemit's two weakest infield positions) and also an additional threat/weapon as a PR and CFer. It has to be Getz OR Nix. I don't really trust Getz at SS much more than Betemit, and Betemit makes a lot more sense at the back-up at 3B over Getz, too. So Getz should either be starting in Chicago or Charlotte. Same thing with Nix. Lillibridge is the best fit for back-up, and he also alleviates the need for either Owens/Wise/Anderson (probably Owens or Wise). But he has to make more contact and get on base at least at a .350 clip, just like Owens, to be halfway effective. Nix seems like he has a lot more extra-base/gap power than either Getz or Lillibridge, also.

It sounds a lot like the Sox with Borchard or the Cubs with Pie and Hill... They really couldn't afford to stick long-term with younger players who weren't performing in the heat of a pennant race. It's one of the things that really held up Crede/Rowand over 2-3 seasons and also hurt Borchard, although it seems he was never fated to become a regular at the major league level. For a time, it seemed he might stick in Florida but he could never keep at least a .250 BA.

And Herm Schneider, and we also have a very good/well-known/respected strength and conditioning coach....in Alan Regier.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1236042992...mod=rss_US_News NBA teams quitting on the season early? Who'd a thunk it? And we thought baseball had problems?

By the way, shouldn't it be Wilson "The Reverse Seive" Betemit? Just to be technical!

Well, let's just hope the "work ethic/attitude" problems with Viciedo are nipped in the bud right away by the veterans. I think he's a little bit like one of those NBA first rounders who suddenly has millions of dollars at age 18 or 19 and doesn't know how to handle the dramatic change in his life quite yet. We keep forgetting how young he is, and yet he's being considered in some circles for a starting position at age 19/20, when only a few players like Griffey, A-Rod and Miguel Cabrera were able to pull it off.

I'm actually hoping that he wins the position. Getz will always be around in Charlotte, and I like Lillibridge as the utilityman that can play CF, SS and 2B with Betemit at 3B and 1B. With Ramirez and Lillibridge, we have two more players that can fill in for CF, so there's no reason at all to keep Owens or Wise. I'm not sure we really need EITHER player, but it seems like we will end up keeping one or the other. That also provides you a nice balance of speed on the bench (with Lillibridge and/or Wise/Owens). I'm starting to think they really knew (once again) what they were doing with Nix, and also the rationale for signing him to a major league contract. This has happened time and time again when the White Sox identified something in a player that almost everyone else (scouts/GM's) missed.

I think you missed it by 1/2 half day (sorry to rain on your enthusiasm)...someone already started another thread on the Crasnick article. It's a very good one, perhaps the best of those written by national publications in many months about the White Sox, that seems to catch/convey the feeling both within the clubhouse and the historical significance of this group of players (Konerko, Buehrle, AJ, Thome, Crede, Dye, etc.) I would say I was more excited in 2000 (because our minor league system looked set to provide the Atlanta Braves-esque dynasty of waves and waves of pitching) and in 2005-2006...and that enthusiam was missing as we collapsed in late 06 and the for all of 2007. I'm cautiously optimistic, but much more positive about 2010 and 2011. Then again, we've been disappointed with Sox minor league prospects before. I think you really have to go back to Ventura, Thomas and Alex Fernandez since we drafted players like Beckham that you felt very sure they were going to have a long-term impact on the big league club, and quickly. There's a bit more of a cloud around Viciedo, simply because we won't have him for six seasons, we'll probably only play him for 3 years, and we're not even sure if he can play 3B or not from a defensive standpoint. But it has been ages since Ventura/Thomas came up together (almost 20 years) along with Sosa (who I was really excited about too)...hopefully these guys (Beckham, Fields, Flowers, Viciedo, Brandon Allen, Jordan Danks, Shelby, Lillibridge). I feel fine about 2B and 3B now, but CF remains the biggest concern going forward.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Mar 3, 2009 -> 11:51 PM) Sarah Silverman made a joke that 300 was titled by how gay it was on a scale of 1-10 So where are Troy and Kingdom of Heaven on that list? Personally, I enjoyed 300 more than those two, and I like almost everything Eric Bana does, with the exception of the first Hulk.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Mar 2, 2009 -> 02:34 PM) I can't believe you know this much about 90210. I had to google all of those guys. My parents actually enjoyed watching it too, but anyone who grew up in the 80's and early 90's watched shows like 90210 and Melrose Place. Jennie Garth is still acting, Shannen Doherty is still in the news and Tori Spelling's multiple plastic surgeries couldn't change the fact that she's not really that attractive...the funny think about this show was that one of the actresses (Andrea Zuckerman) was like 30 or 32 and playing a high school girl. Every girl from that time, I'm sure, remembers Brandon/Dylan and New Kids on the Block...maybe that's why I like movies like Wedding Singer or Wrestler that are so wrapped in 80's minutiae.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Mar 1, 2009 -> 10:15 AM) Finally an addition Royals fans can view as more than a lateral move at best. Sucks we couldn't get in on that. He'd be a great replacement for Dotel after he walks. And this whole dream everyone had of offering Dotel arbitration next year, I think you can pretty much forget about that happening. I think we will just let him go, like we did with Riske. As far as the Royals go, they have the pieces now, if Eric Hosmer, Moustakas and Hochevar are as good as billed. Of course, we don't even know yet if Alex Gordon will be the next Mark Teahen or Mike Schmidt. Early returns are at best mixed...this is a huge season for both Gordon and Billy Butler. The reason I'm not SO worried is that the Royals still have the likes of Miguel Olivo and Jose Guillen in that clubhouse. They don't know where to play Teahen, or to trade him. Jacobs doesn't scare me that much, although he's definitely an upgrade over Shealy and Gload. Aviles has to show he can repeat last year's success in his sophomore campaign. Until they really solidify both SS and 2B, then there will huge question marks about this team. I'm sure their SS OPS offensive contribution with Pena, Jr., was around the worst in baseball. Aviles is better suited for 2B. The Royals, since the end of the Mike Sweeney era, have been searching for an identity and leadership. It's going to have to come from Trey Hillman IMO...if it's Guillen, that bodes poorly. Ideally, it would be some combination of Greinke/Gordon, the two young budding starts of the team, along with Gil Meche's veteran presence.

QUOTE (Cubano @ Feb 28, 2009 -> 02:30 PM) Guys, The rumor in Santiago de Cuba is that 1B Jose Julio Ruiz is missing for a week. Jose Julio is 23-24 and he is good. If I am KW or any other GM, I go after him. He is learning how to elevate the ball to hit HR. He is a gap hitter. I was trying to find a HR he hit vs Industriales in the playoffs that went over the stadium roof. Here is Jose Julio vs Yadel Marti in 2007. Go to the 3:57 mark on this video to see Jose Julio Industriales RHP reliever Alexei Gil may be in the D.R. He is a 90 + MPH pitcher but he needs to work with his control. He relatively young. Would you say this guy is better (projected to be) than Kendry Morales? I don't normally like players who wrap the bat head behind their head, almost right at the pitcher...because you really have to have a ton of forearm strength and bat speed (like Sheffield or Julio Franco) to get away with it. Everyone's still waiting to hear when Marti and Arguelles will actually be able to sign...along with CF Felix Perez. By the way Cubano, did you ever see Alexei play CF for Pinar del Rio, or was he always playing SS? It looks like they're wearing pajamas, but I guess they have to be comfortable in the heat/humidity of Cuba...right? Who the heck is Jose Carlos Moreno? We haven't heard much about him....just a fringe/utility type player? Age? Thoughts? Two other Cuban defectors, shortstop Jose Carlos Moreno and center fielder Felix Perez, joined Viciedo's workout for scouts on Thursday. Moreno and Perez haven't been cleared by the State Department to work in the U.S., so they cannot sign with major league clubs yet. Nonetheless, one of those two players has the Astros' interest. "As a group I'm excited about them," he said. "I'd say our interest is stronger in two than the third." Remaining the ultimate poker player not wanting to tip his hand to the competition, Heck won't say whether he's interested more in Moreno or Felix. "We're really at the mercy of one, they're fielding offers and they're engaging the market (on Viciedo)," Heck said. "Unless they get blown out of the water, I don't think this is a fast-track situation. We've engaged in talks with Jaime Torres and tried to gauge where the market is going to go. "The other two players are subject really if they will be unblocked. It's a timeline neither (we) nor the agent control with the players being unblocked. You're waiting for their process to be completed for being unblocked by the State Department."

AJ's contract is one of the better ones of the "worst." I don't really understand the rationale for inclusion...because we added two years to his contract? Well, at his age, that's just about right, because at 33/34 that's when they will need to turn the position over to Flowers or someone else. It might happen before he finishes his contract in 2010. If anything KW was pretty smart to lock him in and ensure the stability of the position while trying to improve minor league depth behind AJ...he's a Top 5-7 catcher offensively and, even though he doesn't throw well, he manages the pitchers and game situations well, is a clubhouse leader and has the complete confidence of the staff (coaching and pitching), which has been especially important with Danks and Floyd. They should have included Raul Ibanez on this list, and Dempster, too. What struck me the most was the long list of Tigers....Bonderman, Inge, Robertson, Sheffield, Willis....and even Ordonez and Guillen aren't sure things at their age. Not to mention the fact that they wasted $3 million on Renteria's buyout, and were left with just a little for Everett. If you wanted to include any White Sox players, it would have to be Contreras and Konerko...and maybe Thome, just because that's a huge amount of money to pay a DH in this day and age, as the market has reset and those hitters have become a dime a dozen, almost. There's also a long list of players like Rowand, Fukudome, Hunter (not on the list), Michael Young, Vernon Wells, that we could easily have ended up with...and I'm also glad Carlos Lee is no longer our problem, especially at that crazy salary he's making for essentially being an NL DH/LF.

You have to look at it like this...Colon and Contreras have each been the best pitcher in baseball as recently as three seasons ago. I'll take that over Marquez (who, IF IF IF he fulfills his potential, will be like Garland, a 4/5 type guy). The main reason to be optimistic about Contreras is that this is the first time he's had such an extended period of time to rest his arm in many years. I think/expect we'll see his fastball back in the 93-95 range more consistently, and sometimes touching 96. I don't think we'll get a 97 or even 98 out of him again, though. When he can freely throw in the mid 90's and not 89-92/93 (which he's been limited to when battling injuries), then he's MUCH more devastating, because that forkball in the low 80's is almost impossible to hit unless it's hanging up in the zone, and, even when he's only going out there with two pitches, he's still successful. But he has to get ahead in the count, work more quickly and not be forced to go after batters with his fastball.

Simply, when you're seen as organizational "filler," it just takes an overwhelming statistical season and the right combination of injuries (Owens wasn't ready last year, so Wise was the only logical choice, and Buddy Bell was really high on him, which helped) and lack of depth for a player like Cook to get a chance. It's the same reason you didn't see Eldred take Konerko's spot in the line-up last season. Or it may be that he has the ability at AAA/AAAA but he just doesn't "project" as a major leaguer...of course, they said the same thing about Alexei Ramirez when we signed him and look what he did when given an opportunity. Someone mentioned he was "old/er" for a prospect, just like we've been saying about Jerry Owens from the beginning. He really has to get an opportunity and then "force" his way onto the roster like Aviles in KC or with Swisher falling out of favor last year and Ozzie going with the hottest hand in D. Wise. Low round draft choices like Buehrle or players like Cook will always be doubted...until they come up to the 25 man roster and perform and they just keep performing and everyone (scouts/GM's) realize the guy is a player. But there will always be that lingering doubt about players drafted outside the first 3-5 rounds or so...which is the main reason we held on to Anderson and Fields and have brought in so many former #1 draft picks (Marquez, Aardsma, Sisco, Thornton, Danks, Floyd, Carlos Quentin) or top prospects from other organizations.