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QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jun 23, 2007 -> 10:19 AM) per rotoworld: I just thought that this was interesting since you mentioned him yesterday. I didn't know he could pitch. Matt Bush-SS- Padres Jun. 23 - 9:13 am et Converted shortstop Matt Bush threw 94-98 mph while striking out two in a scoreless inning during a extended spring training game on Friday. "He's been the talk of minicamp," said Mike Wickham, assistant to Vice President Grady Fuson. Bush will continue to work as a reliever and could make an impact on the major league roster in 2008.Source: San Diego Union-Tribune Didn't work so well w/ Jason Dellaero or Brooks Kieschnick. Quick thought: Why not add Uribe to the bullpen?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 21, 2007 -> 08:24 PM) Liriano's mechanics are to blame, not WBC. Peavy might be a fair case, but I doubt the extra, what? 20 innings hurt him. He'd have been pitching in Spring Training if he hadn't been in the WBC, anyway. I think the effect is very much overstated. 1) Liriano had a past history of injury problems in A ball, that's why he was made available. 2) Liriano throws/threw his slider with such torque he was another Kerry Wood waiting to happen. The elbow isn't mean to withstand that kind of stress. It was bound to happen, just not that soon.

Is KW still in possession of his mental faculties? I am in Philippines now, but it seems he might need to be checked into psychiatric center. What's the deal with Aardsma? Same 'ol same 'ol?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 11:46 PM) He makes moves in the offseason, to stave off a string of 90 loss seasons. And now he is talking about going down with the ship, all because the first baseman has a good feeling about a team that has been well under 500 since the ASB of last year. To win this division we will need 93 plus wins. Take a gander on the silly winning percentage we would need to get to 93 wins now. We're 16 games under .500 for roughly one full season, and last in runs produced over that period as well. No surprise. I've been arguing this trend from the beginning, but quite a few people didn't like the "aggregation" of the 2nd half 06 and first half 07 numbers...

QUOTE(GreenSox @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 06:04 PM) Don't forget Torrero, another player Ozzie has no problem with. This goes back to my basic question about Ozzie Guillen. Jerry Owens leads off for Guillen and in a month can't muster a single walk. Not one. How is that possible if Guillen and Walker are really teaching patience? That stat is so bad that it seems they are teaching impatience. Further, the fact that he can't get on base doesn't dissuade Ozzie from leaving up up top. He loves Erstad and his .310 OBP at the top; Except for 1 season (maybe 2) Erstad has been below average at getting on base, but he's exactly what Ozzie wants at leadoff. Where is there any evidence that Ozzie values patience, much less a leadoff man actually being able to get on base? I agree that Sweeney wasn't ready. But neither is Owens, Torrero and Gonzales never will be. It appears that we traded an outfielder with potential for another Ozzie-style low-ceiling utility infielder. I guess the idea is to leave the utility players up as they have limited potential anyway, and they have plenty of role models on this team. Meanwhile, Ozzie-ball is last in the AL in offense and 9 below .500 and dropping. Erstad's .338 OBP as a leadoff hitter is not why we're barely ahead of the KC Royals. It's a little below average, but pretty similar to what Pods did last year. Apparently, they want to give the team 2-3 more weeks after both those guys come back before making any "deep" roster cuts in the trade market. I think Ozzie preferred Pierre, but where would be with him or Roberts, much worse off than we are with Jerry Owens. There's no doubt this team would be better off with Gary Matthews Jr., but his contract was ridiculed universally, almost as much as Meche's. There must have been 3-4 occasions any team in the majors could have had him for a song. Owens will be back in AAA and play a lot in the 2nd half when the infusion of Erstad and Pods fails to get us back into the race. If we continues to have such a horrific OBP, he will undoubtedly be waived in the offseason.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2007 -> 07:12 PM) Konerko didn't spend parts of 4 seasons in AAA. Lasorda traded him to Cincinatti because he needed a closer and was concerned about Konerko's hip. The Reds traded him for an up and comer who they used to get Ken Griffey Jr. Floyd was dumped by Philadelphia, using the courtesy line, "all he needs is a change of scenery". Change of scenery? See the following: Jose Contreras Carl Everett AJ Pierzynski Matt Thornton (2006 at least)

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 16, 2007 -> 03:32 PM) We will surely need to replace Gooch after we let him walk for nothing. Iguchi and Riske are not unlike...I can see no reason why KW would want to keep him, and offering him arbitration (to try to get draft pick compensation) only puts us in a precarious situation if we end up having to take him back. Iguchi was good in 05 and 06 but he's obviously in a "decline mode" and his defensive skills, especially, are eroding. This is all a part of the next generation of Sox players getting younger, faster and more athletic. Obviously, Andy Gonzalez and Pedro Lopez (while he was here) were not the answers. If anything, this was a shot in the direction of Chris Getz and Pablo Ozuna, they were the two best candidates to play there in 2008, maybe Cintron as well because of his weakened arm and more limited range. Cunningham was at least two and probably three (going by past Sox development history) years away from being a possibility to start for the White Sox. Signing an Eckstein or Luis Castillo was not going to improve this team for 09, 10 or 11. We need players that are 22-28, not 32-38. It's that simple. If you can combine these younger, hungrier starting players with solid starting pitching and a few bullpen fixes, we should finish between .500 and 10 games under. However, we have to make a significant jump next year in preparation for 09 and 10. And we have to be patient, the thing that's in shortest supply around here. QUOTE(GreenSox @ Jun 17, 2007 -> 10:56 PM) They haven't been given a chance. Ozzie jerks Anderson around; despite a good second half and good spring, he benches him and gives him a handful of at bats in the first month. Sweeney played 1 month. (I certainly hope, Ozzie didn't put him into his dog house; he wasn't hanging around Ozzie, jr, was he?). We don't know that they're busts. Did Ozzie and Walker enable their development and allow them to bring out their best, whatever it may be. On the other hand, Jerry Owens, who has the lowest ceiling of the prospects and a .178 OBP (zero walks) stays up. Gonzales, a potential major league utility infielder, is playing outfield - he's not a serious prospect, but he gets serious playing time. Pretty soon Ozzie won't have any choice - he'll have to play prospects and hopefully he'll try to develop them. They don't need coddling (he does that with Vasquez, and it 's a failure) - they need teaching, leadership and development. Sweeney showed some patience and discipline (better than most of our veterans), but he was obviously overmatched and the Sox were right to send him down when they did. Almost all of his hits were to LF, except for the few times he turned on the ball. And he wasn't hitting many liners to LF either, they were mostly bloopers and dunks and he was getting busted inside over and over again. He also needs to mature physically, just get stronger and more confident. He'll be fine and will play a ton in the 2nd half with Dye probably getting traded. With Owens, we need speed to replace Erstad and Pods at the top of the line-up. I think Owens will go back down this week if he continues to struggle and they might have to bring up either Sweeney or Anderson again...or Erstad/Pods will come back. Andy Gonzalez is just a "filler" while the real prospects step in...perhaps he could take Ozuna's or Cintron's place, but that's a best-case scenario for him. Anderson is definitely not a leadoff hitter, and Sweeney's not an ideal fit for that role either. Iguchi or Mack are the only ones other than Owens, and both those guys are far from "protypical." If nothing else, we're proving that JO is NOT a candidate to replaces Pods in 08, but we should give him a little more time, as there's absolutely nothing to lose, right? As far as coddling Vazquez...it's a no-win situation. He takes him out early, everyone says he's undermining his confidence and he will never work through things on his own...he leave him in, he might give up a big inning, but compare his ERA to anyone in our bullpen (especially middle relief) and you'll see the short and simple answer, because Javier is the best option...or the "least worst" option to get to the later innings. Manuel screwed with Garland, and Ozzie "coddled/supported" him and that seemed to work out just fine, don't you think? Garland wasn't going to win 36 games in 2 years for Manuel, I'll tell you that. He's a 4/5 starter with 1-3 starter stuff. We can trade him for young position players or accept him for what he is, it's really that simple. We can give up hoping he becomes an "ace" like Loaiza or Contreras though.

It looks like Fields is really coming around. Unfortunately, we might never get any return on investment w/ Crede (except for that little ol World Series victory!) I think we'll be okay if Fields and one more of the following (Owens, Sweeney, Terrero or Anderson) can become a major league regular. Obviously, the odds favor Sweeney there the most, because Owens is a 4/5 outfielder/PR and Anderson's currently out of favor. Actually, I don't think there's a HUGE difference at all in Terrero and Anderson. Of course, that's just an opinion. I am out of the country (in the Philippines), but it seems like Josh is really starting to evolve and feel like he belongs (having Crede out for the season obviously helps his confidence)...still, it's going to come down to pitching, both starting and bullpen. The fact of the matter is that we'd be right around .500 or maybe even a game or two above with just a top third or top quartile pen, instead of the worst one in the major leagues. Even if we were hitting like the first half 2006 team, the bullpen would be slowly destroying this team's confidence, because the 05 game closed those 1-2 run leads so consistently after Takatsu was sent packing. It's really simple, Floyd, Gio, Masset, Russell, McCullough, Broadway, Phillips and Haeger (not to mention this year's draftees) have to provide us AT LEAST a 2-3 level starter and another 4-5. It's not out of the realm of possibility...and I haven't read the Cunningham trade thread but my first impression is that we "overvalued" him because he was one of our few position prospects in the low minors, but he was more of a Rowand/Reed/Erstad/Anderson type (perhaps with a little more power upside) than a future MLB All-Star.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 09:09 PM) Thornton was credited with the loss. I'm just saying, with the way that inning was shaping up, I don't think ANYBODY would have been surprised had Burrell hit a three run bomb...the way the ball was flying out there, even Pods would hit a few. This way, Danks left the game with positive feelings about his outing, and he didn't have to suffer the indignity of leaving the game trailing and then watching the inept offense trying to mount a threat of some sort. Too bad they can't give Uribe a "loss share" for this one, the Rowand GS was just icing on the cake.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 13, 2007 -> 06:03 PM) Now as everybody knows by now, I don't blame Ozzie for THIS year. And as everybody also knows, if we had won today it wouldn't have mattered. But Ozzie still made decisions that were inexcuseable: -Taking Danks and his 102 pitches out after 4 and 2/3 innings. First of all, whatever happened to trying to get your pitcher the win. Plus, he just struck out Ryan freaking Howard, had got Burrell out earlier in the game, and realistically could have tried to pitch the 6th too had he got Burrell out, while only giving up 2 runs. -Bringing Thornton in during the 6th. Bring in the damn loogy Ozzie! You could have let Logan do the work, than pinch hit for him in the bottom half. But nope, Thornton comes in AND is allowed to bat with a man on base and the game tied. Hell, why not even double switch Fields out of the game? He made the last out of the 6th, you LOVE Andy Gonzalez, and you took Fields out in a double switch last night. -Thanks for getting our best left in for the 8th to whiff the heart of their order. Not like it was too late or anything, or that Logan has looked 10 times better than Matty has lately. At least Fields made a great play to save your ass for the moment to end the 5th on Burrell I guess. -Thornton has thrown 40 pitches, had NO control, and the bases were loaded. What do you do? LEAVE HIM IN TO FACE THE RIGHTY!! That grand slam might have simply been the baseball gods slapping Ozzie in the face for being a dumbass. At least you hit Jerry Owens, a bad player on 1 leg, leadoff though! Again, let me be clear. My blame for 2007 goes squarely on Kenny Williams. But today's game might have been the worst managed by anybody in baseball this year. I'm 100% sure that Ozzie would have 14 threads complaining if he left Danks out there in that situation, he gave up the lead and Jon ended up falling to 3-7 on the season, despite an ERA near 4.00 (if you take the three God-forsaken Uribe runs off the board from that DET game that seemed about 10 years ago).

Nice play by Fields to save the lead. It's nice to have some players who can run and bunt and go from first to third in Terrero, Fields and Owens (well, half of an Owens).

I can't wait to hear all the Ozzie second-guessing... for taking Danks out of the game one batter away from being in position for a "sure" win, lol...although, if Bukvich gives up a homer or double, I think that will be the end of Ryan in a Sox uniform.

AJ now 3 for 30 with runners stealing against him, soon to be 3 for 31 with Victorino at 1B... Less than 10%, not so good. You can't blame it all on Contreras.

Why was Masset warming up in the first inning last night and continuing to warm up when the Sox were hitting in the top of the 2nd?

Craig Wilson might be higher in the pecking order than Clark at this point.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/10221427 An interesting insight into the Rangers' problems (besides pitching), and how they're not willing to adapt to Washington's "small ball" approach after being successful with the "3 run homer and a cloud of dust" approach of the White Sox offense. No mention of Rudy Jaramillo in all this. I actually think Daniels will be the first to be fired, he's obviously in over his head. Are there White Sox hitters (like Texeira) that are refusing to change their approach in defiance of KW and Ozzie? I don't think so, but maybe the Sox organization isn't being tough enough on the younger hitters...or is simply teaching them the wrong philsophy? The only players they have been "tough" with are McCarthy, Anderson and Tracey (I guess). Of course, there's lots of theories about Anderson, that 1) he isn't serious enough/parties too much, 2) has a bad attitude, 3) refuses to adopt "small ball" fundamentals even though he's not a power hitter, etc. I haven't seen Ozzie be anything but supportive of Sweeney, Owens and Fields, despite their struggles. Each of those three guys has had lots of playing time, Ozzie's not sitting them on the bench. Even Terrero is getting to start almost every game.

Iguchi might be the slowest leadoff hitter in MLB history.

11 unearned runs against Jose this season, 2nd in the majors 12 of 37 Sox errors have happened with Contreras on the mound...thanks Iguchi, for putting their best baserunner on

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 11:59 AM) Is that in green for sarcasm cause I totally agree with your post Steff. I also think it is ludicrious to sit here and not make some sort of moves. Plus, Kenny worrying about what Ozzie does is a bit different because if Ozzie does too much he gets fired and gives the Sox a horrific perception, but when it comes to the day to day baseball operations you can't focus too much on what the fans think (and I really shouldn't say fans...rather the casual fans, because I think most of more intelligent baseball fans will realize moves need to be made and this "offense" needs to get younger and quick). I do disagree with a couple people when it comes to the farm system, I think Sweeney and Fields are keepers (I never thought I'd say that about Fields) while I could give two craps about BA and I doubt BA will be around past the trade deadline. Right now, I'd strongly consider moving Dye now. Dye could bring in some young talent and energy. See if that can make a difference (try to acquire a front line starting prospect and a front line outfield prospect). Than at that point you could hold off making additional moves. I'd hold onto MacDougall (unless we get a stellar offer because he has a fantastic arm and is signed to a very good deal, same goes for Aardsma as I still think both have good futures at the major league level). You could than take a holding pattern after moving Dye and than if things still don't improve, I'd turn to the next level which would be trying to move Iguchi (unless of course we think he's going to be a Type A compensation as I think we'd get a lot more value with the draft picks than what the club would get via trade). I'd also think you have to consider moving AJ if in one of the deals the team acquired a very good young catching prospect ready to share time with Toby Hall (I think AJ would have a good deal of value on the market to the right team, potentially a club like the Angels, although Mike Napoli has started to hit). I think it is important to get a catcher that can actually throw runners out (I also have no problem if the club holds onto AJ). AJ, Iguchi, Dye can all be moved, imo. Podsednik if he comes back healthy and does something could still help a contender looking for a spark at the top of the order. You move him simply to open up another spot, same could potentially be done for Erstad (both of those guys are gone at the end of the year so why not give it a shot and see if you could get some lower level prospects for them). Yes...that leaves a lot of holes, but I'd imagine the club would be able to acquire some things and could still buy other parts (parts that it feels will be valuable for the next couple of years) and you also have to remember you still have a rotation of Garland, Buehrle, Vazquez, Danks and Contreras (I'd hope they could get Contreras and be able to convince him of a trade) which means this team still contends next season (its just a matter of getting time to evaluate guys this season). So I sell AJ, Iguchi, Dye and potentially one of Buehrle/Contreras (perfect case has you convincing Contreras of a deal and yes a contender would be all over that, while you than offer Buehrle a fat contract). I than buy on an outfielder or two (using prospects not named Gio, Sweeney, Fields rather guys like McCulloch, Broadway, etc). Even if Mark gets a 4 million dollar raise from last season, you've cut salary in AJ (4-5 mill, Iguchi 4 mill or so, Dye 7.5 mill or so, Pods 2 mill or so, Contreras (10 or so), Erstad (saving his option from next year). The problem with holding on to Iguchi is the same one we were assessing with Riske last offseason. Were other teams going to make legitimate offers for him? Riske made $1.8 million in 2006, and the Royals signed him for $2 million, so we lost any compensation because we didn't offer arbitration, which would have meant the lowest we could have offered him for 2007 would have been a little north of $1.4 million. I wonder if Riske would have even qualified as a Type A FA, I kind of doubt it, based on 2006, but it's also based on an "averaging" of prior years' performances as well, it would be interesting to see where he would have qualified, and if any teams would have given up a pick (or picks) to sign him. If you offer Iguchi arbitration and he can't find a better deal than $3.5 million or so, then you're stuck with him if he can't find any buyers on the open market. I have no idea or sense of what Iguchi's value is, but I can't imagine many teams are going to want to spend more than that on a player losing power, speed, fielding ability and with a questionable arm for that position. And we can't go into 2008 with Hall as our starting catcher, his throwing is worse than AJ, if that's possible...and I don't think we're going to get Salamacchia or whatever his name is, although that would be wonderful if it occurred.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 11:11 AM) They need to sign Buerhle or risk losing half of their fan base. I believe the season ticket base last year was 24,000. Next year it could be down to 12,000 if they sell everything off. I know a few things about baseball and here they are, pitching wins games, defense wins games, and hitting goes into slumps. We have 5 good starting pitchers right now that should stay here. These are the guys that this team should be built around. I have no faith in Egbert, De Los Santos, Gonzalez, Floyd, or any blue chip prospect coming up and succeeding. Nor do I want prospects from other teams which may or may not pan out. I do not want Buerhle traded for the likes of a Brian Anderson, Ryan Sweeney, or Josh Fields. Iguchi is one of the best hitting second baseman in baseball and will be afforable. His range is not that great but he is a solid hitter and he and Uribe are fine. Dye is old and should be moved. Problem is, nobody is going to risk a prospect worth anything for him unless he gets hotter than s*** real soon. The media will fry this franchise and rightly so if these pieces are sold off for nobody's. I am not sure what is going to happen to Crede as I assume he will not take a pay cut and that situation will get really ugly really quick. Since the end of last season KW traded two pitchers making a combined $10M and added nothing. I understand the other players got raises but that is not what is put in the media. Losing the three free agents and Crede opens about $27M. That is a preceived $37M decrease in two offseasons. The chances of Ichiro hitting the market are very slim especially with the M's making a playoff run. Andrew Jones will not be worth the money and Hunter will be overpaid as well. If KW does not want to overpay the payroll will be under $80M next season and in exchange for the fans coming out for two seasons they will get jobbed. I will not pay the money for a team that is slashing payroll. They increased ticket prices a good amount the last two years and have regressed. Think prices will come down next year....... In closing, they need to resign Buerhle.....and I can't believe I am saying this, Rowand, for simple PR. If not attendance will be back to blue seat pre renovation days. With the exception of the Marlins, it has been demonstrated that a five year "window" is opened after winning a World Series, we're still only in Year 2, and it's not until Year 5 that all the benefits of that World Series win are exhausted from the organization. I remember these same arguments being made about letting Ordonez, Carlos Lee and Valentin, and, then, to a lesser extent, Thomas last year, although most knowledgeable Sox fans were ready to let go of Big Frank due to the injury concerns. A 25-30% fall is likely, but there's no way it will be 50% unless the Sox sell off their players and they don't make any moves (that, to the public) appreciably improving their chances for 08. The attendance doesn't really spike until the year following, as Sox fans were skeptics until the summer of 05 hit and the team kept on winning, the same thing happened in 2000. As long as the team is a winning one, White Sox fans have proven they will eventually come out and support it. I'm not sure how many White Sox fans (on the fence) would be brought back "into the fold" if Aaron Rowand was signed, for instance. He's a complementary player, but does he really sell tickets? Not only that, but fans seem to be more in the habit of identifying with position players over pitchers, so, from a purely business/ticket sales standpoint, they should sign Ichiro. Unfortunately, unless Fields and Sweeney become big league regulars, signing Ichiro will only sell tickets for 2-3 months. We can't be competitive having to pay for every player (through minor league talent, money or equivalent talent from our 25 man roster), and KW knows this more than anybody. At the very least, this will be an interesting time period in Sox baseball history. Unfortunately, it has come a year or two earlier than even the most pessimistic fans expected.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 10:49 AM) would you rather have... 3B= Fields LF= Mackowiak CF= Owens/Terrero or 3B= Mackowiak LF= Terrero/Fields CF= Owens (when healthy) Owens doesn't have the arm for CF, and he doesn't have the power for a corner OF spot. He's, at best, a fourth OF, at worse, Rodney McCray or a career minor leaguer. Fields will sink or swim at 3B. You just need to leave him there for 4 1/2 months and see what he can, just as the Royals are doing with Alex Gordon. I can't believe it, but I'm 100% behind playing Terrero everyday in CF and seeing what he can, same with Fields. I wouldn't mind seeing Sweeney either, if Dye is traded. KW has to know what he has for 2008, and what trades or moves have to be made to supplement the talent we have coming back. Playing Pods, Cintron, Mack or Erstad doesn't really help us at all, unless we're showcasing them for the highest bidders on the market.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 10:45 AM) Sox only have good attendance for one reason: winning. I don't see how keeping guys that won't be on the team next year for the entire season will help our ticket sales for next year, etc. Let's face it....we have a ton of bandwagon fans. I love bandwagon fans in baseball more than any sport, because attendance dictates payroll in baseball more than any other sport. What are people going to perceive is happening when we lose Buehrle, Dye, and Iguchi this offseason and replace them with Rowand and a couple of middle-of-the-road players? The 2008 situation has been looming for a few years now, and I just hope KW is more focused on rebuilding this team for the next 5 years instead of trying to fool people that they have a legitimate chance in 2007 or 2008. Even in CLE, which had about a 5 year run of sellouts at Jacobs Fields, that sell-off in 2002/03 (and to a lesser extent, last year) has had long-term ramifications for the fanbase. I was watching them play a game against KC (weeknight) and it looked like a crowd of 10-12,000, at most, those fans are still not wholeheartedly supporting perhaps the best team in the AL. I'd like to think the White Sox have $50 million lying around (from their profits of 05/06) that can be carried forward to remain competitive in 08/09 while getting younger, faster and more athletic. The problem is, the White Sox haven't gone out to "buy" talent at top dollar since the David Wells and Albert Belle signings. It's not the modus operandi of JR...in fact, because of the trading bringing in a lot of the players that won a World Series, it makes it more and more unlikely they would ever go the Cubs' freespending route. And KW probably feels he can "fix" this mess without spending money, because he was able to successfully put together a WS winner at $75 million.

Well, you know that something will come out in the media about the White Sox and KW/JR making a last-ditch attempt to sign MB to an extension, and we probably won't find the exact numbers, we'll be led to believe they made a legit attempt, although all signs point to him leaving. It's not quite so obvious as it was with Ordonez or Durham, but they have to sell Buehrle "high" while the no hitter is still fresh in everyone's minds. No matter what, they need to retool this ballclub. I was thinking, maybe you keep Iguchi and go after Ichiro, but I don't think either one of those guys (especially Ichiro) will be with us next year. OTOH, if they don't have any "name" Free Agents coming in next year and the payroll is scaled down to, say, $75-85 million, they're going to be very hard-pressed to get to 2 million in attendance in 2008. I've seen lots of band-aid solutions (Eckstein, Castillo, Vizquel) but none of those players are going to be part of the future competitive (hopefully) teams in 09 or 2010. If Fields and Sweeney tank this year, you're looking at replacing every position with the exception of C, 1B, DH, SS and possibly 2B (although any moves to improve the middle infield would be great, I'm not sure either will happen). They also will have to decide whether to offer Crede a contract for next year and get nothing at all for him in return...or keep him in 2008 and waste another $5 million, just like Pods' $2.9 million for 07.

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 09:25 AM) reinsdorf and kenny williams must not want to run a business because they're not very professional at all. greg walker must do special favors behind closed doors because it makes zero sense that he still has a job. i see 0 improvement from the hitters, in fact, i think they're getting worse. CAN HIS BEHIND ALREADY!!! what do we have to do? storm the cell??? More likely, it will be the no-shows and boo-birds than "storming the Cell"

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 12, 2007 -> 09:35 AM) I agree with the title 100%... The team plays the same everyday, and the same exact posts get made everyday... Its like Groundhogs day without the Sonny and Cher. Where's Bill Murray when you need him? Probably in Wrigleyville. The Incredibly Shrinking Prospect List White Sox Baseball: How Not to Hit a Center Cut Fastball These Kids Can Likely Never Play Even MJ Could Hit .300 Against Our Bullpen Destination Unknown Lost, the Baseball Show 27 (Outs) The Chicago Generals