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QUOTE(fathom @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:49 PM) Quick prediction game: who will end up with a lower ERA this year, Danks or McCarthy? I predict that Cintron will never dive for a ball all season long. Nice...all the wheels are coming off at once. Just the type of embarassing play that will lead to another Ozzie OR KW blow up/frustration explosion for the media's enjoyment.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:32 PM) I remember when Jose Valentin used to do that ... and get thrown out 1/3 of the time. I don't miss Jose. According to Hawk, he was the best baserunner in White Sox history.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:21 PM) Pre-2005 Crede is back!!! I'm ready to just let them play Owens, Fields, Sweeney and Anderson and see what we have for 2008. If Mack or Cintron are on the team again, I might scream.

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:11 PM) Yes. Exactly, even if you have to give up somebody you would not want to. Oh and I also think they learn to pitch inside a whole lot better but I am like you I guess, what do I know. 77 pitches for John here and quite a few he'd like back. Iguchi would have been fine FIVE years ago, but he's aging rapidly and his defense is starting to hurt the White Sox as well. He was actually a pretty decent stolen base threat in Japan and was relatively quick his first season with us, but he's gone downhill steadily since then.

QUOTE(diegotony06 @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:08 PM) Your not giving me any examples. What is so positive about this team right now?? Terrero Erstad Masset Danks (until tonight) some of the Sox hitters SEEM to be coming around, somewhat (LOL) Thome's healthy, I guess 21 pitches, 20 pitches, 30 pitches already

QUOTE(BearSox @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:04 PM) Nope, the first one was against Santana, and he shut us out, I believe. I'm almost positive we lost that one 3-1, it was the Fox Saturday game. Second homer tonight by a lefty. Gardenhire gets great results out of a lefty (Kubel) who hits lefties well....not relying on the traditional/expected Lou Ford/Danks match-up.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:02 PM) Another awesome read from the man who is a better defender than Aaron Rowand. How many times have you played CF in that dome? I saw Torii Hunter misread 15 balls last season in the second half last year (the ankle injury didn't help his closing speed either), and he's played there his entire career. We'll just hope and pray to win one of three and get out of there with any confidence intact.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:55 PM) Castillo next year? Too old, doesn't hit lefties any longer (with tonight's blooper the exception), won't get you much more than 20 stolen bases, he's injury-prone on that turf...I just think his body is too beaten down. Essentially, we need the type of players who will be maturing and entering their primes in the next 2-3 seasons, and that's why Castillo, who would have made more sense in 2005 or 2006, wouldn't have much of a future with the White Sox. And that's the second homer by Morneau off Danks, both times creating a 3-1 lead (I think).

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:52 PM) I'm not saying you're wrong, you make some interesting points. What IS a hitting coach's primary resposibility? If it's just or mostly to develop younger players, that's not much responsibility, is it? What would need to happen with this offense for you to believe it might be time to try someone besides Walker? In some ways, most young players are "coachable" unless they're just obstinate. The best hitting coaches are the ones the veterans respect and whose ear the hitting coach can get into when he needs to deliver a message. The White Sox tuned Gary Ward out. There's no sign they have done that to Walker...I think they genuinely like him and seem to respect him like the rest of the coaching staff, but it's just as difficult for me to blame Ozzie Guillen for their lack of hitting. He's responsible for "motivating" them to hit? I don't think that's a manager's job. If anything, Walker and KW are more responsible than Guillen. This is one of those debates that entrenched sides will never give in on...depending on your opinions of the various Sox coaches. I have the feeling our team ERA or bullpen ERA could be 5.00 for the season and many would still be defending Don Cooper, yet they don't similarly give Ozzie Guillen credit at all for the 05 season.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:48 PM) Seriously the umps alone have cost Danks a few earned runs this season. It's getting ridiculous. The horrible umpiring led directly to Contreras being forced to throw his fastball over the heart of the plate. No coincidence that umpire is "nursing an injured back" and unavailable for the rest of the series, along with the "hands across the throat" gesture to Gardenhire.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:48 PM) Where the f*** was that pitch to Punto? Sox Pitching: We're Here to Encourage Your 2 Out Rally Monkeys

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:46 PM) ARE YOU f***ING SERIOUS WITH THIS s*** TWINS? Castillo coming into that AB hitting .178 as a righty. Almost .400 as a lefty....both Danks' walks to LHers.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:42 PM) I'll put it this way. Arm: Anderson > Rowand > Erstad Range Anderson > Rowand/Erstad (even) Routes Erstad > Rowand > Anders Anderson was by far the most talented and because of it the best, but Erstad takes super routes and gets the best reads of the bunch. Rowand was just flat out solid at everything (although I know most will knock his arm because its not as accurate as it should be and fact of the matter in 05 his arm was piss poor). And I'm tired of hearing how good Dye's arm is...past tense, USED to be. Perfect example of a player living on reputation and a past Gold Glove. Dye is a DH now disguised as a RFer. He's not quite Mark Teahen, Billy Butler or Emil Brown bad out there, but he's not far off either.

QUOTE(briguy27 @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:39 PM) yea like ichiro Hunter will be too expensive if he continues to stay healthy and puts up comparable numbers, same with Ichiro...Andruw Jones' price might be falling, but the downside of a long-term contract at this point in his career will cause KW to shy away.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:38 PM) What, when Rowand was one of the 3-4 best in the game 2 seasons ago. Brian Anderson was one of the 3-4 best in the game last season. Ya, that would mean superb. In fact I think Erstad has been as good as those two were (or at least very close). 1. Anderson (slight edge due to arm, but he didn't exactly light up the assist meters either) 2. Erstad 3. Rowand And it's a lot closer between BA and Erstad than Darin and Aaron.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:27 PM) Even with all my critcism directed towards the organization's player development, I believe they've been under poor direction. Including Williams. This entire philosophy of "drafting safe players to perhaps trade them" is ridiculous, IMO. It shouldn't even enter the minds of scouts. First and foremost concern should be drafting to help the ballclub. I'm just thankful Hahn finally realized the Lance Broadways and Kyle McCulloch of the worlds won't work any more in this league; in this division. Sure, they're good for anchoring a rotation as a #4/#5 position; but we already have a collection of pitchers who fit that mold. That's why I believe it all begins June 7th. Either the beginning of the end, or an indication we have people who have changed their methods for identifying talent. We're going to need it in the following seasons. The White Sox, to me, have been very contradictory. They've taken a lot of "athletes" like Borchard, Chris Young, Josh Fields, Jason Dellaero, Brian Anderson, etc. Many of them haven't developed. Drafting in the 20-30 spot, there aren't usually very many impact players available...or, I should say, it takes 10X more work to identify them in those spots as opposed to 1-10 or even 11-20. Picks such as Ring, Broadway and McCullough fall into that "safe" category, college pitchers who are expected to at least make the majors but have limited upsides. Matt Ginter would be another example...although Danny Wright was the opposite from that draft, an inconsistent college pitcher with a "great arm" and lots of potential. Same thing for the likes of Rob Purvis, Brian West, Wyatt Allen, etc. Actually, we've probably picked more "reaches" than we've had "safe" picks over the last 6-7 years.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 29, 2007 -> 08:59 AM) Well yeah, but he's no better than any of our 5 starters right now, and he'd have been gone after this year. Obviously we could have got more for him, but it makes no difference we don't have him unless he could pitch middle relief. And just imagine all the steals against the Twins (with Freddy on the mound)...and how bad Freddy would be behaving with the lack of offensive support behind his usual 3-5 earned runs allowed efforts?

QUOTE(WCSox @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:05 PM) It amazes me even more than somebody thinks that we should trade Gio and Terrero. But I agree about Walker. Not that I think that he's a terrible hitting coach but, as somebody pointed out here weeks ago, Walker's coaching style doesn't seem to be working with this group anymore. Fair or not, I think that he'll be the first casualty. I'd like a list of all the times the managers have been fired and the new manager has kept the same hitting coach around on a permanent basis...it doesn't happen very often, and 90% of the time, the hitting coach is the sacrificial lamb before the manager.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 29, 2007 -> 07:12 PM) In 1997 the White Sox had 7 of the first 62 picks in the draft. I'm not going to hold my breath. Ah yes, Jason Dellaero taken before Lance Berkman, and Garland ended up being the only major "impact" player of that draft, and he wasn't even a Sox pick.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ May 29, 2007 -> 06:54 PM) let's remember this is a franchise that traded away Johnny Callsion, Earl Battey, Norm Cash, Denny McClain, Terry Forster, Rich Gossage, Brian Downing and many other solid players. And don't forget Hawk traded Bobby Bonilla for Jose DeLeon. sending McClain to Detroit was one of the worst ever. Baldwin for Onan Masaoka and the wrong Berry/Barry Foulke/Johnson for Koch and Cotts (although Neal saved that one, it still cost us in 2003) Cory Snyder Gary Redus a Bedtime Story (just wanted to type that) Royce Clayton for Myette (not on talent, but for disruption of team chemistry and displacing Valentin)

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 29, 2007 -> 06:49 PM) How can people not say the minor league people? Because they are the most "under the radar" you can possibly get...and their firings don't satisfy the "bloodlust" of the average fan in Kankakee or Peoria that goes to one or two White Sox games per year and probably doesn't even know the starting line-up of the White Sox. For instance, take Radcliff and Jim Rantz. WHO? Two huge reasons the Twins have finished ahead of the White Sox in four of the last five years with significantly smaller budgets. We'd be much better off to double the salary of either of those guys and let them remake our scouting department (like Dayton Moore is doing in KC with Braves' network scouts) than paying millions to Cintron, Pods and Mackowiak. http://www.citypages.com/databank/27/1346/article14739.asp

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 29, 2007 -> 06:02 PM) Um...man, that is the single most 1-sided deal ever. I think Liriano/Bonser/Nathan takes the cake there. Don't forget Sean Lowe, he was a gritty fifth starter who actually pitched some big innings for us. Ironic that we traded away three "starters" and got half of one back, since Ritchie went down to injuries after pitching in horrible luck (think Danks' first month). QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ May 29, 2007 -> 06:46 PM) Couldn't agree more. Our outfield -- RIGHT NOW -- needs a young player who can hit, run and field. THAT player is in Arizona, and he's named Chris Young. He'll get better, too. In his place is the guy who has been rewarded for mediocrity. IF -- and it's a big IF -- the signing of that turd to an $11 million deal prevents us from signing guys who actually have ACHIEVED things for this team -- and are critical to its makeup (Buehrle, Garland) -- the trade becomes even worse. And just so I'm totally clear about my position: I don't think Vazquez has underachieved. I think this is who he is, and has been, for about 6 years now. His stuff isn't excellent. The view to the contrary is a myth. Here's why: if you continue to hang off-speed pitches -- that is, throw curveballs that don't curve and sliders that don't slide -- you're not underachieving. Your stuff just isn't that consistently good. That's the guy I see. I get angry just thinking about that trade. I did the day it happened. And I do right now. We'll never know if CY could have put up similar numbers this year in the more competitive, pitching-dominated AL Central this year...maybe, maybe not. I guess we'll get a hint if BA is traded to an NL team and ends up becoming a regular.

I wonder if anyone will pick an option other than Guillen or Walker...?

Our bullpen is garbage. If he had the Angels' bullpen, or the 2005 White Sox pen, we'd be in a lot better shape. Considering the way Aardsma, MacDougal and Sisco have pitched recently, we're lucky to be over .500 still, with our offense still abysmal. Masset is our best righty now, and he shouldn't be in the bullpen, as he appears to be better suited to starting. The fact of the matter is that we're a .500 team, and will undoubtedly be within 6-7 games over .500 (both over and under) for the season, unless we make a major offensive addition to the line-up. Nobody's counting on Pods coming back at 100%, unless those were the same people who picked Mark Prior and Kerry Wood for their fantasy league teams.

2 IP 1 H, 4 ER, 4 Wallks (!!!), 1 K 6.35 ERA Brandon deserved the loss, but the Rangers came back with 5 against Dice-K to take McCarthy off the hook until the Rangers' bullpen managed to blow it. Time is running out for underprepared and inexperienced GM Jon Daniels.