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QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 01:39 PM) Goes back to Wedge's quote. If Danks get through this inning, he will have the same exact ERA as McCarthy, except he'll be 0-2 instead of 1-1. Danks has actually pitched better, less total runs and less hits allowed, more K's.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) Embarrassing. No reason at all for four straight swing and misses against Byrd in one inning. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE no game tomorrow against Sabathia. That will give the Indians five games to make up this season already. Danks is getting as much support as Todd Ritchie in April/May of 2002.

QUOTE(shoota @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 01:34 PM) Dye looks horrible. Crede looks bad on outside pitches. 11 innings pitched by Danks, no runs scored for him. We suck.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) Excellent swing by PK. Keep it going offense. This "man love" moment for Grady Sizemore sponsored by Miller Lite.

QUOTE(bmags @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 01:14 PM) heck yeah! byrd plz walk in two runs! Walk #3 on the season, 13 all last year....good job Juancito

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 01:08 PM) 4 IP 5 H 2 R (2 ER) 1 BB 3 SO. Not bad for Danks. 70 pitches...looking like another 6 inning effort, hopefully another QS

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:48 PM) Yeah, I think Danks will be a solid starter for us for a good number of years. However, his command is not even close to being MLB ready. He'd break the MLB record for homers allowed if he last the whole year. I'm still waiting to see his fastball get over 90 mph like we were told it would. I wonder if they'll teach him a 2-seamer. I'm still waiting for Jenks to get to 95. These guns are all inconsistent. Danks has been 87-92 all season. It's early. Think how long we had to wait for Jon Garland to become a better than average MLB pitcher.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:46 PM) He'll be the Pods of this year when he can do absolutely horrible for a long stretch, but Ozzie still won't sit him. Do we really think he'll sit Erstad for Anderson? There were quite a few who wanted to give up on Jermaine Dye in April/May of 2005.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:45 PM) The first week was cute and all, but it's really really really really f***ing time to sit Erstad. Why don't we sit Konerko, Thome, Iguchi and AJ while we're at it? There won't be a Sunday line-up tomorrow, the game probably won't be played.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:35 PM) Bad location... calm down Mr. Danks, and stop the bleeding. Looks like we will be seeing Mr. Masset this game.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:33 PM) I'd prefer Suzuki. I'm going to start calling him Donnie Garko. Oops. Barfield homer. At least he's being consistent giving up all his run via the longball.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:26 PM) Welcome to Soxtalk. I wasn't sure if that was Anderson 2006, Rowand 2005 or Crede 2002-2004.

QUOTE(beautox @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:25 PM) manoshevitz. Mientkiewicz? Andy Stankiewicz?

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:20 PM) I love Danks' pickoff. Who is the girl in the picture? She looks like a girl I met in the Philippines last month, lol. I'm sure I will see quite a few more like her next year teaching in China.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:19 PM) Damn if we would have got that over Hafner would have K'd. Juan tagged him in the family jewels...did you see him apologizing?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:16 PM) Sizemore basically saw as many pitches in 1 at bat as the Sox saw in the 1st inning. Paul Byrd's not a maximum effort pitcher...everyone's familiar with his stuff, he's always around the plate and he, like Buehrle recently, gives up a lot more hits than innings pitched.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 12:11 PM) Konerko still sucking it up. Im glad he decided to stop doing that stupid "laid back" thing at the plate. It's a miracle that the White Sox are 5-4. We're 29th in the major leagues at hitting, currently .225 entering the game.

QUOTE(Hatchetman @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 07:54 AM) norm cash Well, I meant within the last 10-15 years or so, but that's cool.

According to VORP... 11. Jason Jennings, 28 years old...this might be ONE reason the Astros preferred him to Garland, besides the fact he's a lefty (Garland was ranked 54th) 26. Chris Capuano, 28 years old 27. Clay Hensley, 27 years old 29. Aaron Cook, 28 years old 43. Jeff Francis, 26 years old 56. Dave Bush, 27 years old Others to keep an eye on Juan Cruz, D-Backs John Maine, Mets Fernando Nieve, Astros

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 06:36 AM) I don't agree with Gary Matthews, Jr., being an undervalued player at all. You can see where the Cubs and, to a lesser extent the the White Sox, have excelled at breaking even (or, in the Cubs' case) at making huge profits while not spending much money on the payroll. The irony is that spending lots of money and increasing expectations at Wrigley might actually turn the fans off, as the team can't be "loveable losers" at that payroll level. Of course, KW and JR changed that philosophy in recent years. And you can also see why the Royals, Brewers, Pirates, D-Rays, Marlins, etc. have chosen the paths they have chosen, although the signing of Meche, the hiring of Dayton Moore and additional scouting/front office staff shows more commitment on the part of the Royals. And just look at the Dice-K phenomenon. How much revenue is he creating for Boston hotels and tourism with all the Japanese interest in the team now? Lots of signage with English and Japanese marketing approaches opening up new revenue and marketing possibilities. I'm sure the Red Sox are receiving revenue for games shown in Japan. They're now being able to market themselves very effectively to a small but relatively wel-off and rabid baseball "fan population" that's yet to be fully exploited on the East Coast. Each one of his starts is being covered (for now) like "an event" or happening. Matsui and Irabu didn't have anything close to the appeal of this guy. I think the Red Sox are even getting into the NASCAR marketing with their promotions and NESN somehow. By the way, my Adobe Acrobat isn't working. Is there any way you could send me the list of undervalued/overvalued players to [email protected]? That $103 million will seem like a HUGE bargain compared to the Zito contract. VORP Ratings for pitchers in 2006/07 1. Santana 17. Verlander 20. Sabathia 23. Robertson 30. K. Rogers 34. Bonderman 40. Zumaya 42. Westbrook 46. Nathan 50. El Gran Titan de Bronze 54. Garland 55. Freddy Garcia 67. Dennys Reyes 84. Jon Rauch 85. Brad Radke 88. Jeremy Sowers 89. Javier Vazquez 95. Jesse Crain 104. Juan Rincon 105. Cliff Lee 117. Chad Bradford This tells you all you need to know about why the White Sox didn't make the playoffs last year. And why Baseball Prospectus rated us so poorly coming into 2007.

QUOTE(Linnwood @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 05:59 AM) Interesting article in the Wall Street Journal this morning. Accompanying chart shows Top 20 undervalued and overvalued players according to Vince Gennaro, a consultant to the Cleveland Indians. Says Jermaine Dye is "one of the league’s most underrated, and apparently undervalued, players. " Chart: http://files.linnwood.org/documents/what.p...wsj.14apr07.pdf (PDF 12MB) I don't agree with Gary Matthews, Jr., being an undervalued player at all. You can see where the Cubs and, to a lesser extent the the White Sox, have excelled at breaking even (or, in the Cubs' case) at making huge profits while not spending much money on the payroll. The irony is that spending lots of money and increasing expectations at Wrigley might actually turn the fans off, as the team can't be "loveable losers" at that payroll level. Of course, KW and JR changed that philosophy in recent years. And you can also see why the Royals, Brewers, Pirates, D-Rays, Marlins, etc. have chosen the paths they have chosen, although the signing of Meche, the hiring of Dayton Moore and additional scouting/front office staff shows more commitment on the part of the Royals. And just look at the Dice-K phenomenon. How much revenue is he creating for Boston hotels and tourism with all the Japanese interest in the team now? Lots of signage with English and Japanese marketing approaches opening up new revenue and marketing possibilities. I'm sure the Red Sox are receiving revenue for games shown in Japan. They're now being able to market themselves very effectively to a small but relatively wel-off and rabid baseball "fan population" that's yet to be fully exploited on the East Coast. Each one of his starts is being covered (for now) like "an event" or happening. Matsui and Irabu didn't have anything close to the appeal of this guy. I think the Red Sox are even getting into the NASCAR marketing with their promotions and NESN somehow. By the way, my Adobe Acrobat isn't working. Is there any way you could send me the list of undervalued/overvalued players to [email protected]? That $103 million will seem like a HUGE bargain compared to the Zito contract.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 10:33 PM) Any time the Twins lose a Santana start, its like 2 losses. http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindeale....xml&coll=2 Article on the Indians' philosophy behind signing Westbrook, it really does parallel with Vazquez. The problem is, they might "only" lose Sabathia and Hafner (two of their three best), but we have to keep Garland, Iguchi, Uribe, Crede, Dye, AJ, Buehrle, Pods...our team's future is definitely more "in flux." I think Thome's contract runs out after next year as well. That's a large part of the core of our current team, more than 1/3rd of the roster. EDIT: I forgot we at least have a $5 million dollar option on Uribe next year, and no replacement in place.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 11, 2007 -> 11:12 PM) thxmch, that helps my memory. I was trying to find it, but the earliest I found was that May 14th game. His velocity does take a hit when he pitches back to back days, but if he's in the 90-93 range come May, I get concerned, and all Sox fans should too. "He pitched good; it's just his velocity is not there," said Guillen, who admitted he's worried about his closer. "I want to know if we're overusing him or if it's just not there." At least we have no shortage of candidates. I wouldn't be surprised if they even considered Adam Russell converting just for this season, but that would be a last-ditch, desperation move....and they would go to MacDougal, Thornton, Masset and Aardsma first. A lot of people have really been impressed with Aardsma, and it appears his velocity is increasing a little each week. I don't see Sisco getting any serious consideration with all of his control issues and erratic performance. Boone Logan and Dewon Day would be others in the mix right now. The biggest thing is we don't need to go out like the Reds last year and make a desperation move for a closer or set-up guy.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 14, 2007 -> 04:42 AM) Jon Rauch and Gary Majewski have developed into pretty solid relievers, although ATM our pen is looking quite good. And although he's done nothing so far in the majors, I still think Jeremy Reed can develop into a Rusty Greer type of hitter. He just needs to be in the right situation, and in a hitters environment to do so. Majewski was very solid, at least up until last year. Of course, like Kip Wells and Josh Fogg, he labored in obscurity with almost no pressure. KW and Rauch just do not get along, it was the best thing for the White Sox to part ways with him IMO. Fabio Castro might be a sleeper pick, although he's had his success (so far) in the NL.

QUOTE(bardsroom attendant @ Apr 13, 2007 -> 10:22 PM) Also, how cool is it that our biggest pen worries our Thornton and Bobby with his standard early season low velocity issues? Aardsma, Sisco and Masset have all been better than expected. And Javy has been a rock so far...knock on wood. Mr. Danks, you're up next. Sisco has been pretty inconsistent, just like ST. His overall numbers don't indicate the enigma that he has become....very solid one inning, next inning, you look up and it's 2nd and 3rd with no outs