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Yeah, but the Yankees have roughly 2.5X our revenue stream to support that payroll. We will end up paring $40-50 million from our payroll if things continue like this. The Yankees would be adding players in our situation. There's simply zero tolerance over there for not at least making the playoffs, let alone winning the World Series each season.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2011 -> 04:13 PM) I'm not even going into detail about the Jackson/Hudson trade and the impact on our payroll, but I'm willing to bet that when we trade Jackson in 2 months, it will be for a player far below Hudson's caliber. Who we undoubtedly will have to pay 3-5X as much as we would have had to pay a cost-controlled Hudson over the next 5 years.

QUOTE (b-Rye @ May 4, 2011 -> 04:02 PM) Hmm think KW's gotta go. He built this team, and this team is out of it with worst record in baseball over a month into season. * He traded for injured AND reinjured Peavy, added around 15mil per in payroll * Signed Adam Dunn, similar to Thome after letting him go, had worse numbers than Thome in NL and costs around 15 mil per * Let Jenks walk, not a bad move but Will Ohman money could of resigned him * Linebrink signed to stupid contract, and we're still paying Linebrink to pitch on Braves in 2011 * Resigned AJ Perzynski, it was time to move on * Acquired Juan Pierre * Edwin Jackson and his plus salary acquired for Dan Hudson. * TEAHEN * WILL OHMAN We need a hungry team that wants to win, this roster reminds me of a Cubs team and I hate it and they SUCK. This team is a disgrace. Fire Kenny, Ozzie, Walker, Teahen, Pierre. This team needs some bold moves, get younger and get a few MLB ready players and maybe pull in some good prospects for Danks, Buehrle, Jackson. Maybe even Konerko, Quentin, Ramirez, Thorton, considering rest of team is un tradeable or untouchable. Agree with most, except bringing back Jenks (period) and Jenks willingness to sign for anything close to Ohman money....or in general, not coming back unless he was guaranteed a shot to be the closer again. Boston, he knew going in he wasn't getting that job over Papelbon or Bard.

1) Paying Juan Pierre $5 million this season. He made 3 physical/mental errors alone today, can't steal a base, has ZERO pop, no arm, has lost 2 steps now, blah blah blah. 2) Teahen, although he might have to earn that contract now with Morel seemingly headed back to Charlotte. 3) Tony Pena 4) Rios...and for failing to draft/develop a CF, namely holding onto Brian Anderson 5) Peavy 6) Ohman 7) AJ, paying him $6 million next season when he's way over the hill, can't throw out anyone, hardly ever drives the ball and is again rumored to be a clubhouse cancer when things aren't going well....this falls squarely on KW for not drafting or developing a catcher (Miguel Gonzalez and Tyler Flowers) It remains to be seen on the Thornton contract. Paying a set-up guy $5+ million per year with a multi-year contract in his 30's isn't always the wisest move, as KW learned with Linebrink and Dotel. Crain has been perhaps a little bit better than expected, as you don't see very much consistency from 7th and 8th inning guys over a 3-5 year basis. Dunn and Konerko, those moves were understandable but neither of those guys is easily moved. Buehrle won't get anything much back in return either. I don't see how we could be any worse with Viciedo as the DH, keeping the draft pick/s for Dunn, Hudson and Sale in the rotation. Arguably, De Aza would be doing better than Pierre (hard to do worse). At least we'd have 4/5th's of a starting rotation. I'm not even going to get into the Peavy fiasco again, it's too tiresome.

18,028. Vinny's Beverage Depot just cancelled its sponsorship due to concern about being associated with negativity over the remainder of the season.

Ummm. Yay, sort of. At least no DP.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ May 4, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) As soon as we are completely out of contention he will hit like 14 or 15 in a month. See Belle, Albert (Joey) RBI's in 1997.

Dadgummit Paulie, if you hit into a DP I'm going to sort of get upset. Kind of like the failed comeback Sunday with 1st/2nd, no outs and the heart of the order coming up. They want to make us care, they just can't quite pull it off.

Now how will the offense conspire NOT to score this run? Still not convinced he'll score unless it's a PB.

We managed to save Liriano and Blackburn their respective spots in the Twins' rotation. Both were in danger of being replaced by Slowey and possibly Gibson. This sucks. I would rather have SOME feeling instead of complete apathy. That damned ball Thornton gave up to Thome was the last time a Twins' game against the Sox kept me on the edge of my seat with any kind of tension or excitement.

Castro has good pop for his position, but he's woefully underutilized.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:51 PM) Sox are notorious around baseball for not hustling down the line. Oh, just to watch Pablo Ozuna hustle down the line and start throwing the safe sign as he crosses the bag. A sight for sore eyes.

Who would actually want AJ at this point? I miss the days of corpseball. Really.

QUOTE (Tuna @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) Also known as the two worst teams in baseball? I don't think you can say that anymore about the Twins after they came and left town with us left in their dust (yet again).

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:47 PM) I wonder when last time we threw a runner out at the plate was from the outfield Ken Griffey, Jr. in 2008

6-24 against the Twins since 2009. FIRE OZZIE. NOW. THIS SEASON IS DEAD.

6-24 That's our record over the last 30 games against MINNESOTA. 20% winning percentage. 32-130 extrapolated over a full season, haha. Ozzie should be fired for this number alone against our main rival.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) Agreed, and something else that bugs me is that if you bring in someone like Dunn, then you might as well try to become the 2010 Blue Jays and have a lineup full of mashers. Have an 7-8-9-1 every game with no power in the AL in our ballpark is just f***ing stupid. They almost have no choice but to insert Viciedo for Pierre and hope he can catch fire. You put Beckham back in the line-up, Teahen at 3B, that's all you can do. You almost consider Lillibridge over Pierre at this point if you're not willing to bring up Viciedo because of his OF defense.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) you can send this one to Copperstown another intentional walk that does nothing but give up another run anyone think a legitimate bench coach may help this team Copperstown, Beardstown or Cooperstown, this is one game that will drive the youth of today away from the game of baseball in droves if anyone in the world is actually forced to watch it again.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) Danks will be 0-5 by May 4th. If this hold up I would of lost any bet on that. It's their secret internal strategy to keep the amount on his contract extension below $100 million for Danks. Give me Danny Wright or James Baldwin over Danks, they knew how to win. LOL

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) I'm so pissed that I bought tix for the Angels series in Anaheim. Think I'll wear a paper sack that reads "All In" By that time, they might have you committed to the looney bin. Only 1-9 left to go on this road trip and we reach 5-26, and reverse last year's run. YAY!!!!! 4-17, 4-17, 4-17....how is it possible with a $128 million dollar payroll in the American League Central?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2011 -> 01:27 PM) I can't believe Ozzie pitched to Kubel. I guess only Rongey and Cowley will defend him still. PERFECT. HAHA!!! Ozzie, you're deliberately trying to lose this game and bring the Twins back to life. Sped up his bat by throwing him a slider. UGH.

Complete lack of focus. Players' fault, they're professionals. Or the coaching staff? Tosoni poised to make Ozzie look stupid. Not that doing that's very hard recently.

Yet another mental mistake. CUE "crooked number." Is Harrelson around to witness this debacle/fiasco? He's got to be going absolutely crazy about right now.

Between Pierre getting picked off (DJ still claiming a balk), Quentin on the DP, Vizquel here (missed hit and run sign?)...we obviously can really afford to just give up outs (in addition to the bunting) all over the basepaths. UGH. More CS than steals, too. Ridonkulous.