joejoesox

2009 Chicago White Sox are easily the worst team in baseball, at least right now anyways. There's no other team as bad as this one, and I'm being serious with that Prove me wrong? Nice swing though on that liner from Gordon

I thought that bounced off the grass

Nix proves me right.

odds of getting a hittable pitch on 1-2? i'd say about 20%? chances of our hitters swinging anyways? about 80%

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:48 PM) There isn't a worse hitter with the bases juiced than BA. Prove me wrong. How can he, Walker hasn't taught him that .050 batting average increase swing yet.

QUOTE (tommy @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:47 PM) 1ZOMG, Beckham is talking to Walker in the dugout... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo Somebody, call Jack Bauer... quick! There's a terrorist in the dugout!

Would be a nice time for Brian to learn that opposite field swing from BP

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:41 PM) Josh's mortal enemy: the 91 MPH fastball. I hate how he pulls his elbows back (towards the umpire) before he swings, slows his swing down tremendously on fastballs

Gobble is pretty f***ing terrible

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:16 PM) Nice grammar beats

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:13 PM) Very much so. But Walker clearly isn't getting through to them either. So what's the point of having him around? Terrible arguement there You're either wanting him fired for the production of the players, or you're not You don't get to shift to another arguement of "Well, he should be gone if we're paying him to do nothing" The only time a fan should want someone fired is if they're hurting the production of the ballclub, not because they're cashing checks for doing nothing

lol

Why Slayer couldn't have number 6.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:05 PM) It is amazing how many people really think the Sox would have a .350 team batting average and score 12 runs a game if they had a different hitting coach. They need to look at the players. That's on KW. Agreed 100% Unfortunately many hitting / pitching coaches lose their jobs, due to the failures of the general manager

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:01 PM) Fields was a strikeout machine in the minor leagues. You only think he's a star because he hit more homers than he ever had before in the majors in 2007. He's not that good. And Willie Harris, .262,.256 with the Sox in a limited role. .176,.270,.251,.259 since. Wow, getting out of Walker's grasp has allowed him to take off. I'm starting to learn how Chris Rongey feels after a loss

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 03:00 PM) We could make quite the killing selling off our bullpen. Yeah, we'd trade for more Wes Whislers, Sean Tracys, etc.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:55 PM) Why shouldn’t he take blame for two great minor leaguers failing to carry their success into the majors? Didn’t you just argue that he deserves credit for Q and Konerko? Hell no, I didn't argue it was his due that Q and Konerko are good hitters, I was saying Quentin had primo-talent before coming here, I never said anything about Konerko Hitting coaches, I don't care which team they're coaching for, don't turn .240 hitters into .280 or .290 hitters If a guy is a bad hitter, and the fans (you) are expecting Walker to turn him into a good hitter, it's not going to happen, it's not happening on ANY baseball team for that matter

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) My argument is that these kids had and have promise that was never fulfilled at the Major League Level. These guys were great Minor League players who failed to carry sustained success into their major leaguer performance. While you can blame a large part of that on mindset, are you going to tell me that the hitting coach escapes all blame? He doesn't hold enough blame to lose his job because minor league "Studs" Brian Anderson and Josh Fields, can't get it done at the big league level How many teams do you think would trade for Brian or Josh? Yeah

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:46 PM) Who was the hitting coach? The arguement you made is that BA and Fields never had any talent. That's B.S, they just haven't realized it when they got to the Majors. My arguement is that BA and Fields don't have major league talent above a .230 or .240 batting average and an OPS over .700 Is that what you'd accept as OK? Then stop head-hunting for Greg Walker, because these two kids just aren't very smart to begin with

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:43 PM) You wanna tell me that the first thing you thought when you saw Field and Ba's minor league numbers was that these two kids were going to be busts at the Major League level? Because nobody who had good numbers in the minor leagues has come up to the big leagues and not succeeded.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) He shouldn't, he stinks. Beckham 2B Lexi SS Pods CF Fields 3B for the rest of the year, just leave it alone anyone else with me?

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:40 PM) It really makes me laugh that the only argument in defending Walker is that Cooper should be getting just as much s***, rofl. Then read mine

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:38 PM) I never once blamed Walker for the failures of Wise and Lillibridge, and anyone who did is an idiot. Both of those guys were clearly not Major League talent. Anderson is? Fields is? Getz is? Why is it so hard to fathom that the reason our young players suck this year is because wait They're not good enough? What can walker do with s***?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:34 PM) Coop's shown he has the ability to make people better from his teachings. Who other then Q has shown a marked improvement under Walk? Nobody can prove one way or another that Quentin's resurgence was because of Walker

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 7, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) Why is Cooper not getting any crap for Colon giving up all of these home runs? There are a lot of people on this board that make no sense. If the Sox offense is bad, its on the hitting coach. If they give up 6 runs in 5 innings, the pitching coach has nothing to do with it. I'm with you DA, ultimately these guys are hitting the way they are because of the types of hitters they are, and probably a bit of anxiety and doing too much at the plate. Intangible problems that a hitting coach has no remedy for I'm all for Williams stepping down, however, as the players who are on the ML roster (outside of Beckham, who was a can't miss for whichever team grabbed him) are HIS players and scouted by HIS scouts