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Bottom of 2nd Konerko up, working the count, 3-2 pitch high, Konk draws the BB Dye up, 0 outs, runner on 1st 0-1 count, almost brings Konerko home with a foulball that just misses the right side of the foul pole. 2-2 flyball to right field, Giles with the catch, Konerko back to 1st AJ up, 1 out, runner on 1st 0-2, AJ GIDP's~ Top of 3rd coming up

Top of 2nd Danks facing Jeff DaVanon, K's him (dunno what he threw) 1 down for Edgar Gonzalez back to back cutters from danks, with a pitch low, K's gonzalez on the 4th pitch 2 down for Brian Giles (2nd AB) 2-2 pitch, groundball to uribe, giles retired bottom of 2nd coming up

Bottom of 1st owens leading off, not showing any patience, hacking at first two pitches, K's on 3rd pitch looking 1 down for OC OC flies out on a 1-2 count 2 down for Big Jim Thome K's Top of 2nd coming up

Fick grounds out to OC, sox coming up to bat 3-0 padres

Rob Fick takes Danks to a full count, runner on 2nd with 2 outs, Fick fouling many pitches off maybe we'll see the changeup again

Barrett doubles down the left field line, Iguchi & Clark both score 3-0 Padres

Danks K's Khalil Greene with a 3-2 changeup (@_@), 2 down runners on 2nd and 3rd

Rongey & Farmio doing the broadcast Danks K's Giles in 3 pitches, Walks Iguchi and McAnulty 1 out, runners on 1st and 2nd, Clark doubles down the left field line 1-0 padres

4-1 sox, after flyball gets lost in the sun, BA makes it to 3rd

swish drives in a pair, 3-1 sox

jesus alexei! his bat speed is RIDICULOUS, which is why he spins like a top on every swing haha

back to game topic: creeping back up on haren, 4 runs is great even though it is raining also, why wasn't OC running hard around the bases to score? there were 2 outs, very non-heads up, even though he scored, it seemed as if he slowed down on the bases, he should've been running full-bore

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 04:33 PM) But show me a 10 game winner with a 5.50 ERA, I will show you a lucky man. (this is not to say that Floyd's ERA is or will be 5.50). i like our chances if he posts a 5.50 era in '08 (i dunno if i wanted to make that green or not)

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) Jeremy Bonderman lost 20 games his first season Greg Maddux lost 14 games and posted a 5.61 ERA in his first full season (this was in the mid 80's, so it isn't ridiculous to say if you had that Maddux pitching in this era that you would have had him post something similar to Floyd) Robin Ventura was absolutely brutal to start his major league career Point being, most young baseball players don't experience immediate success. They go through the motions, make adjustments, and the good ones pull out and become something, the bad ones falter. Gavin Floyd has overcame his piss poor showing in Philly and came to Chicago and instead of wallowing around, he got himself back in track and earned a lot of respect based on the way he took the ball every time out down in Charlotte and had a positive attitude and eventually impressed Ozzie/Kenny/Cooper late in the season in Chicago and has came in this spring and continued to impress (sans today start). Bottom line, the history of baseball shows that most young players fail or at least struggle at some point very early in there career before coming through. Floyd clearly has tools, find me a scout that doesn't believe that and I'd be shocked (now i could see a scout saying he's a risk or that he isn't the lock he once was, but I don't think you'd see a scout, who based on stuff alone, didn't think Floyd was worthy of being a major league starter). Whether it pans out or not, I don't know, but he's going to get his chance to open the season and show what he can do. If he sucks, the Sox will call someone else up or go with Masset or trade for someone. They probably will be in a tough spot when it comes to competing if a few of the starters fail, but we all know that the pitchers will have to pitch and Danks/Floyd will have to grow up in a hurry if the club plans on beating Detroit & Cleveland and winning this division. and anthony reyes threw a 1-hitter and lost to the sox in 2006 gavin floyd used to have a great curveball, one of the best in MiLB, but over the last couple years he's lost it completely, and also has a problem throwing the ball for strikes, even when he's trying to get one over he's often-times missing the plate completely and this is just about every single time i've seen him pitch, so unless he has a dead-arm every time he goes out....

what's up with all the f-bombs in this thread, why can't we have a civilized arguement about this kid without people getting all hot and bothered. i'm sorry if it bothers you that much, but there are legitimate arguements on both sides. tossing f'ing this and f***ing that all over the place doesn't do anything for your arguement if seeing discussions about how bad gavin floyd looks to people, do yourself a favor and restrain yourself from hitting the reply button

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 16, 2008 -> 04:18 PM) And a few bad outings, especially if it's in Spring Training, does not make you suck. just curious, what about all the previous years of gavin floyds career, the ones where everyone questioned his mental approach, and his first season in teh MLB where he garnered a, i believe, 7+ ERA? but yeah, he's good, this is just spring training/dead arm

i disagree about our 3-4-5, danks and contreras haven't looked this brutal in spring, gavin is the one i'm worried about

is still garbage, can't throw strikes, he's always inconsistent ozzie thinks this is impressive? in before "this is only spring training" etc etc.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Mar 14, 2008 -> 04:36 PM) A lot of people are worried about Floyd and Danks. I really think the guy we should be worried about is Jose. If he starts getting hit around like a pinata this year, who would replace him in the rotation and how much of a massacre would it take? combination of haeger/broadway/masset i'd assume, but you could kiss the season goodbye at that point, jose has to pitch well this year, it's really that simple, we have to have a chance against other teams #4 pitchers and it isn't asking jose much to compete against those types of pitchers

alexei drives in the first run with the first hit, off of harden

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) Let's hear which games he blew. This should be fun. I remember Crede's gloving blowing a game back in 2005 when he dropped a foul pop up and the next pitch was crushed over the fence in the 9th inning. i was at that game, f-ing manny ramirez

the video of alexei BP @ espn http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/player...mediaId=3288836 i take it we're not allowed to post embedded flash videos in our posts? edit: Just watched the video a second time, his hand and bat speed are ridiculous..

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 08:49 PM) Actually they put his MLB stats and preparation ahead of meaningless ST stats. His .225 ba sub .300 OBP was most of what did him in. maybe i'm "misremembering" (lol), but didnt sox brass state that between BA and Erstad, whichever had the better spring would get the starting job?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 07:01 PM) so after he threw himself under the bus, he got thrown under the bus? His performance and attitude was one of the reasons we even went out looking for another player. All he had to do was act like a professional and perform, he admitted himself that he is now actually focused. ah, i see. so this team puts childish vendettas ahead of fielding a team that's actually trying to win games. rgr that. i don't give a damn about BA's attitude, if he was the better playing in 07 ST, then he should've been given the starting job, barring anything that would warrant the most absolute disciplinary matters (PEDs, illegal activities, etc)

jesus christ, thank god these two losers aren't gonna make the the club when opening day comes around sox lose 7-5, after having the lead 5-2 in the 8th