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QUOTE(Texsox @ Oct 21, 2007 -> 10:58 AM)
Full disclosure: I happen to be a Tony fan. Not too many mangers with more than two WS wins in the last 25 years. I believe only Joe Torre. And all time I'll bet less than ten guys have won three.
Pretty close, you just missed Sparky if you count the last one as within 25 years. 15 guys have won 2. 44 guys have won 1.
# First Last Manager
7 1932 1943 Joe McCarthy
7 1949 1958 Casey Stengel
5 1910 1930 Connie Mack
4 1955 1965 Walter Alston
4 1996 2000 Joe Torre
3 1905 1922 John McGraw
3 1923 1928 Miller Huggins
3 1975 1984 Sparky Anderson
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Rotoworld:
Oneli Perez-R- White Sox Oct. 19 - 2:39 pm etOneli Perez was perfect for 1 1/3 innings to earn a save in his debut for Licey of the DWL.
Perez had a 2.10 ERA and 16 saves in 77 innings in Double-A this year. The White Sox, though, never gave him an opportunity, possibly because of how much Dewon Day struggled when he was promoted to the majors from Birmingham. With better command than Day, he appears to have a future as a setup man. However, he is likely to have problems with the home run ball.
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QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Oct 18, 2007 -> 04:21 PM)I wonder what the worst stolen base percentage is for anyone over 10 attempts. probably 0 for whatever.
In the history of Major League Baseball, since 1871, Uribe's dubious achievement has been exceeded by only 3 players with over 10 attempts. Zeb Terry of the 1921 Vermin went 1 for 13, Jose Vizcaino of the 1994 Mets and Eddie Yost of the 1957 Senators went 1 for 13.
Our Juan was matched by Bobby Doerr, 1 for 10 with the 1939 Red Sox. By the way, Bobby Doerr is in the Hall of Fame.
Thats it, out of 7,768 players who attempted 10 or more steals in years entering the 2007 season.
The record for most caught steals with no success is Pete Runnels of the 1952 Senators, 0 for 10.
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QUOTE(StatManDu @ Oct 17, 2007 -> 11:26 AM)The Sox had six players man third base in 2007, their most at that position in a decade. The last time that number was higher was in 1997.
Here's the breakdowns:
2007: Joe Crede, Josh Fields, Pablo Ozuna, Andy Gonzalez, Rob Mackowiak, Alex Cintron
1997: Paco Martin, Greg Norton, Tony Pena, Tony Phillips, Chris Snopek Mario Valdez, Robin Ventura.
The Sox also had six players man third base in 2000: Joe Crede, Tony Graffanino, Paul Koenerko, Greg Norton, Herbert Perry, Craig Wilson
Love your stuff. The record is nine, 1972 and 1932. Oh my God, Jorge Orta at 3B? He made 3 errors in his 9 games. End of experiment, and that was a Chuck Tanner club...that was the year Melton was hurt.
yearID G Player
1972 74 Ed Spiezio
1972 56 Bill Melton
1972 14 Rich Morales
1972 09 Jorge Orta
1972 06 Hank Allen
1972 03 Hugh Yancy
1972 02 Luis Alvarado
1972 02 Dick Allen
1972 01 Walt Williams
1932 71 Carey Selph
1932 19 Red Kress
1932 17 Billy Sullivan
1932 14 Luke Appling
1932 13 Charlie English
1932 10 Jackie Hayes
1932 08 Jack Rothrock
1932 04 Johnny Hodapp
1932 02 Fabian Kowalik
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Great stat, got me thinking. Twice has one player recorded all of his team's saves (>30 saves). Both times the Giants under Dusty Baker, Rod Beck in 1996 with 35 and Robb Nen in 2002 with 43. The 02 team won the NL pennant.
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This thread brings up a lot of old, bitter memories for me. Remember the flamming I took when I whinned about KW breaking up the team?
The Evil Kenny Williams thread
I was so upset over all the moves I started to not enjoy the game, this coming off a WS trophy. By the end of spring training I decided to put it aside, shut up and just watch the guys we had. In hindsight I can't say the White Sox would be better had the deals not been done. We certainly miss Rowand but then again Thome has been a great treat to watch for these two seasons. Crede's back would have went out even if El Duke were still on the team. But the team has never played the same.
The '05 group competed hard and made every effort to make every play on both sides of the ball every inning of the game, they were a joy to watch. You never knew what play in a game would turn out to be the key, it often turned out that saving a single run in the third made all the difference in the ninth.
While some of the new pieces have nice numbers, the team has never recovered that gamesmanship and competitive edge. When I watch the young NL teams in the playoffs this year challenging every runner going from first to third, sliding hard on every 6-4 thats in range, it makes me remember how the '05 team played. Nobody had to be the hero, and thats what made heroes of them all.
And Rex is right about Javy, he is still a dog.
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I applaud the move. One thing Bell showed me managing the Royals is he seems to know when to give up on guys. Berroa, Burgos to name a couple.
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I'm dropping my Ozzie plan because I am incapable of planning my life up to 6 months in advance. I ended up eating or giving away tickets due to a fishing trip, the death of an acquaintance and a wedding. I'll go to just as many games but will select targets of opportunity game by game. I expect availability to be easier and think I will end up with better seats this way.
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QUOTE(StatManDu @ Oct 4, 2007 -> 11:02 AM)In 2006, Andy Gonzalez was the first Sox player to appear at at least seven positions in 17 seasons. Gonzalez played first, second, shortstop, third, left, center and right for the 2006 Sox (and I thought he was totally worthless!!!). Steve Lyons played every position but catcher in 1990. The year prior, Lyons appeared at every position but pitcher.
So now you know!
psst...its 2007
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QUOTE(Markbilliards @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 10:35 PM)probably at least half the white sox have used steroids at some point in their baseball careers. Especially Razor Shines who you can see the effects of him getting off them.
I hope you are joking. Razor hasn't played ML Baseball for 20 years. He is a 50 year old veteren coach who went on a diet and excersise program because he had gotten way overweight. Jeezz...
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John Buck is playing a fine game tonight. Two walks on long counts, a runner thrown out and a fine block of home plate.
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Greinke beat him last time, the Sox need to score some runs off this guy. Also watch DeJesus in CF, many are targeting for the White Sox this winter.
Kansas City David DeJesus CF .264 Mark Grudzielanek 2B .299 Mark Teahen RF .286 Billy Butler 1B .296 Mike Sweeney DH .263 Emil Brown LF .259 Alex Gordon 3B .249 John Buck C .228 Tony Pena SS .264 Zack Greinke (7-6, 3.62) Chicago WSox Jerry Owens CF .265 Josh Fields 3B .249 Jim Thome DH .273 Paul Konerko 1B .259 Jermaine Dye RF .250 Scott Podsednik LF .244 Juan Uribe SS .230 Danny Richar 2B .228 Toby Hall C .198 Jon Garland (9-13, 4.42) Umpires: HP: Angel Hernandez. 1B: Derryl Cousins. 2B: Ted Barrett. 3B: Mark Carlson.
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Kansas City Joey Gathright CF .307 Mark Grudzielanek 2B .300 Mark Teahen RF .285 Mike Sweeney DH .263 Ross Gload 1B .287 Alex Gordon 3B .251 Emil Brown LF .256 Jason LaRue C .150 Tony Pena SS .258 Brian Bannister (12-9, 3.61) Chicago WSox Jerry Owens CF .266 Josh Fields 3B .249 Jim Thome DH .275 Paul Konerko 1B .257 :bringit Jermaine Dye RF .250 AJ Pierzynski C .261 Scott Podsednik LF .244 Juan Uribe SS .230 Danny Richar 2B .232 Jose Contreras (10-16, 5.51) Umpires: HP: Mark Carlson. 1B: Angel Hernandez. 2B: Derryl Cousins. 3B: Ted Barrett.
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QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 25, 2007 -> 06:00 PM)I would have preferred that he kill a Cub.
Post of the century!
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QUOTE(JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:26 AM)anyone know what the start time for the sat. 9/29 game is? it says TBD but i thought i heard someone say it got moved to 7:05? can anybody please help me because i cant make it if its the good old 1:05 start
MLB.Com 09/22/2007 1:53 PM ET
The White Sox game against Detroit at U.S. Cellular Field on Sept. 29 has been scheduled for 6:05 p.m. CT. The original time was listed as TBA. The game will be broadcast on Comcast SportsNet. ...You are in luck!
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Danny Richar cannot hit good major league pitching.
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Bring it!
Chicago WSox Jerry Owens CF .254 Josh Fields LF .241 Jim Thome DH .271 Paul Konerko 1B .262 Jermaine Dye RF .250 Juan Uribe SS .229 Danny Richar 2B .237 Andy Gonzalez 3B .188 Toby Hall C .206 Mark Buehrle (9-9, 3.55) Minnesota Jason Bartlett SS .268 Alexi Casilla 2B .241 Joe Mauer C .287 Torii Hunter CF .291 Justin Morneau 1B .274 Michael Cuddyer RF .275 Matthew LeCroy DH .333 Lew Ford LF .232 Nick Punto 3B .211 Johan Santana (15-12, 3.14) Umpires: HP: Bill Welke. 1B: Jim Reynolds. 2B: Gary Cederstrom. 3B: Lance Barksdale.
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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 19, 2007 -> 07:50 PM)Jim Thome now has 501 career homeruns. He's also just 1 HR away from his 11th career 30+ HR season.
That didn't take long.
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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 15, 2007 -> 01:28 AM)4 more seasons?
But aren't young players meant to improve and older players decrease in worth as they get older?
That's like comparing Josh Fields and I don't know some 33 year old third baseman who has a better batting average? Will Fields still be a subpar player for another 4 seasons compared to this guy?
Fields played a fine game last night, both at the bat and in left. I was very impressed with his throw to nail Vlad, another time he ran down a liner I'm sure Pods would not have reached. He was into the game at the plate, he actually got a bunt down. I think he looks much better in LF than he did at 3B.
Richar missed at least 3 plays. Two balls he didn't get to and one he didn't charge, almost getting Contreras run over. His bat may improve but the kid has not shown me he can play 2B in the majors.
Owens didn't cover as much ground as I've seen him in the past and showed me his weak arm isn't getting better. A player with his limited offense had better get a lot better in the field to stick with a big club.
Gonzalez made one good play and no mistakes on his other ones. Although he got a hit against Colon, Bootcheck made him look like a rookie league batter.
Among the kids, Fields is the only long term major leaguer in my eyes.
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If nothing else, the thought of Ozzie sticking it to Mariotti for 5 more years may have justified the extension all by itself. Reinsdorf himself called Mariotti a Pissant, and Ozzie called him a f***** so I doubt his 'scathing' column upset anyone at 35th and Shields.
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Cleveland Grady Sizemore CF .275 Asdrubal Cabrera 2B .316 Travis Hafner DH .253 Ryan Garko 1B .291 Jhonny Peralta SS .270 Franklin Gutierrez RF .270 Jason Michaels LF .268 Casey Blake 3B .266 Kelly Shoppach C .275 Paul Byrd (14-6, 4.34) Chicago WSox Jerry Owens CF .248 Scott Podsednik LF .260 Jim Thome DH .271 Paul Konerko 1B .260 Jermaine Dye RF .252 Juan Uribe SS .224 Danny Richar 2B .202 Andy Gonzalez 3B .200 Donny Lucy C .500 John Danks (6-13, 5.41) Umpires: HP: Rob Drake. 1B: Gerry Davis. 2B: Brian Gorman. 3B: Paul Nauert.
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1-2-3 first for Gavin. 2 K. 11 pitches 9 strikes.
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Cleveland Grady Sizemore CF .274 Asdrubal Cabrera 2B .316 Travis Hafner DH .255 Victor Martinez C .306 Ryan Garko 1B .292 Jhonny Peralta SS .272 Kenny Lofton LF .300 Chris Gomez 3B .313 Ben Francisco RF .271 Fausto Carmona (15-8, 3.27) Chicago WSox Jerry Owens CF .244 Josh Fields LF .234 Jim Thome DH .271 Jermaine Dye RF .252 AJ Pierzynski C .268 Darin Erstad 1B .259 Juan Uribe SS .226 Danny Richar 2B .207 Andy Gonzalez 3B .204 Gavin Floyd (1-2, 6.20) Umpires: HP: Paul Nauert. 1B: Rob Drake. 2B: Gerry Davis. 3B: Brian Gorman.
The game time has been pushed back to about 7:20 due to the drizzle.
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Cleveland's win over the Angels last night mathematically eliminated the White Sox in the AL Central. They join Tampa Bay and Baltimore as eliminated AL teams. No teams in the NL have been eliminated. The team has 20 games remaining and is 20 games under .500. Elimination number for the wild card is now 2 (Yankees).
The obits have been written for the 2007 team for some time. In the end, they fell short in every phase of the game; pitching, hitting, defense, baserunning and throwing. They couldn't even bunt. They truly lost as a team. They need some new players and some old ones to play better. That said, a team with a quality starting rotation, a proven 3-4-5 batting order and a star closer can be turned around in a hurry.
Worst to first!
THIS DATE IN WHITE SOX HISTORY/OCTOBER 19/The Comiskey Bears???
in Pale Hose Talk
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http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/06/21/...-bears-in-1929/
Did you notice the Refs run faster than the players?