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    Aaron Rowand

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    However, that last stat is somewhat misleading.  When Rowand had his 3.03 range factor in 2001, he played 237 innings in CF(which would average out to be about 7.3 innings per game.  In 2002, he played about 602 innings, which averages out to be about 8.3 innings per game(or about a game in CF for each time he was out there).  In both of those years he played nearly an entire game in CF.  In 2003, it was quite the contrary.  He played about 379 innings in CF, which is about 6 innings a game, meaning he had a lot of late inning replacements, and when that happens, you don't get the numbers you need to have a high range factor.  I don't think his accident really caused this decrease in range factor, I just think it was that he didn't get regular playing time. 

    Excellent analysis. Range factor basically compares the outs and assists a player makes per inning to everybody else at that position. A late inning replacement will play behind more closer types who thoretically throw more strike outs and grounders, he just won't get equivelent chances. Thank you for the education.

    Score a big win for MLB & a big loss for the union

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    The union can't afford to give an inch on this. If any crack were to appear where owners could renegotiate a contract downward it would be open season on players coming off a bad year or injury. They would find a way to squeeze Billy Koch, Moe Vaughn and the like, costing them the millions they earned with prior performance.

     

    There are smart signings and dumb signings. I bet Loiza wishes he didn't give the Sox a $4Mil option for '04, I think he could easily double it as a free agent. But Esteban has to live up to his contract and so do the owners.

    El Caballo Contract is

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    I like Carlos as much as the next guy but I think the Sox overpaid here.

     

    The Rotoworld guys agree with you:

     

    Carlos Lee - OF - Chicago White Sox  Dec 19

     

    White Sox agreed to terms with outfielder Carlos Lee on two one-year, $15 million contract with an option for 2006.

    Lee gets $6.5 million next season and $8 million in 2005. Chicago has an $8.5 million option for 2006 with a $500,000 buyout. This looks like an awful lot of money to give to a corner outfielder with a career OPS of 814. The White Sox look at 2003 as a breakthrough season because of his 113 RBI, but it his 830 OPS says it wasn't. The White Sox are probably making a mistake by thinking that he'll hit so well with RISP again in 2004. 

     

    Its another case of the White Sox slightly over paying a young player in return for buying out his arbitration and first FA years. We'll have to watch the games to see if he turns into a bargain in 06.

     

    It will be interesting to see how Ozzie uses him, Manuel batted him anywhere from 2nd to 6th. I personally would hit him 3rd and follow him with Maggs, Thomas and Konerko.

    Uribe or Valentin

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    Based on the splits I've seen posted here in other threads, I think they should platoon.  Uribe hits lefties and Valentine hits Righties.

     

    Uribe's splits

    Valentin's splits

     

    103 mph screwball

    Based on the present roster I think you have it right. You have to protect Jose from lefties, and he is a very nice bat off the bench against righties in the latter innings.

    What the hell?

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    Bighurt52235 Posted on Nov 4 2003, 05:05 PM

      http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t3=1&statSet2=2

     

     

    I think this is a total error, but the site has Frank listed as a pitcher on his defensive charts for 99'. Apparently, he didn't throw any pitches, but allowed two stolen bases. This is just an error, correct?

     

    It's certainly there in MLB.com stats but its gotta be an error. I cross checked it with BaseBall Reference and they don't have it. I think some of us would remember if Big Frank ever pitched, plus JM would have been out of here in 1999.

    I've liked every Sox manager on Day 1

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    just not happy about this

     

    a lot of big talk - yeah, lets pound on chests and thump the air - from a guy who never laid off a pitch and once said he didn't need the fans.

     

    I have the same feeling about Ozzie the clown. I just can't believe this guy is going to be taken seriously.

     

    KW alluded to the issue in his interview this afternoon on ESPN, saying he discussed Guillen's 'maturity' with JR. Although KW came away satisfied I know I saw Bozo in the NLCS faking a mitt after his pitcher lost the handle on a ball and it sailed into the dugout. Maturity?

     

    He talked very big in his introductory press conference. Things like, if players don't advance a runner from second base he'll bunt them next time and if they don't like it they can have their agent talk to Kenny and get traded out of town. I've never worked for a guy who made big threats and actually did it. The guys who actually did it never said nothing until goodbye. I suspect Ozzie's all smoke.

     

    I hope to be wrong, but I just can't picture these words coming out of Al Lopez, Tony LaRussa or Bob Lemon.

    MLB Contract

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    It's an exhaustive subject. In a nut shell:

     

    The contract runs through 2006. The owners wanted more money. The players wanted more money.

     

    Collective bargaining is a process where the workers negotiate some working conditions, as a group, with management. It developed in 19th century England when the owners were oppressing the workers (the conditions were truly horrible) and any individual who objected was fired and blackballed. Bargaining in a collective group forced the owners to negotiate because they could not fire everyone and stay in business. Debate rages whether collective bargaining is necessary today, what with the current liberal work laws. Plus whether or not these laws would continue to exist without unions.

     

    Revenue sharing is an attempt to reinstitute some financial competitiveness among major league teams. Teams have always split gate reciepts, but with the emergence of non-shared revenue sources that did not exist when the leagues were formed, such as radio, television and now local cable networks a disparity in the amount of income has occured.

     

    Details on the baseball agreement can be found at

     

    http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb_labor.jsp

    Twins story

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    Heather Lee Posted: Oct 10 2003, 04:27 PM 

     

    Seriously, how could the Twins' attendance DROP after they win back-to-back divisional titles?

     

    It didn't decline, here's the numbers:

     

    Minnesota

    Year Attendance

    2003 1,946,011

    2002 1,924,473

    2001 1,782,929

    2000 1,000,760

    1999 1,202,829

     

    White Sox

    Year Attendance

    2003 1,939,524

    2002 1,676,911

    2001 1,766,172

    2000 1,947,799

    1999 1,338,851

    Ozzie embarasses his pitcher

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    Rex Hudler Posted on Oct 9 2003, 06:31 PM

     

    With all due respect, life in a locker room is no where near what it is like in the real world. Having played and been around baseball for a long time, I assure you that last night was a good laugh and was no big deal at all.

     

    I'll defer to your judgement and pipe down. But it's gonna take some convincing to sell me on Ozzie as manager.

    Ozzie embarasses his pitcher

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    Rex, thanks for the correction on Tejera, we were harrassing a bar maid into switching back and forth between the Marlins, Red Sox and BlackHawks so it was hard to stay with the thread on any one of them.

     

    As to Ozzie clowning with the players, I've trained workers moving up from the ranks into supervision and the first (usually the hardest) lesson is that you are not one of the boys anymore. No one will treat you as the boss unless you act like the boss, the representative of management. If you try to stay one of the guys your charges will not take you seriously, they will pick and choose when they want to listen and you will fail.

     

    A good boss creates an environment where each team member feels important and respected. Mocking one of your employee's in front his peers, not to mention on national television, is not acceptable. I've screwed up in presentations in front of people (nothing remotely like last night's stage) and let me tell you, you keep up a brave face but feel like crawling under a rock. If my boss added to it by making fun of me in front of all those people I'd probably walk out on him.

     

    If Ozzie was a lead person for me, I'd have a long, one sided talk with him and demand he appologize to the player.

     

    I think a prospective manager should exhibit some management skills.

    Ozzie embarasses his pitcher

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    During last night's rout, I think it was Pavano who lost his grip on a pitch and it sailed into the Marlins dugout. A couple pitches later Ozzie Guillen is shown on national television in the dugout holding up a glove during the pitchers wind up.

     

    The pitcher had to be embarrassed enough without his own coach mocking him. Perhaps Ozzie was trying to keep things loose on the bench but it was a lack of respect for the feelings of his own player. If I were the pitcher, I would never forgive Ozzie and never want to play for him.

     

    With his team getting bombed, at a time leadership is needed, Ozzie turns into a adolescent prankster. No clown who pulls a stunt like this should ever manage.

    White Sox Radio Broadcasts

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    I just listened to John Rooney do the ALDS and was struck by how much more into the game he was compared his White Sox broadcasts. He brings energy and excitement, and calls the game in 'real time', rather than 10 seconds after the play because he was talking about golf with his partner.

     

    I've always respected Buck Martinez but never liked him much before on the air. He is as dry as overdone toast. But, in this series he and Rooney are fitting together like a hand and a glove. Martinez doesn't need to comment after every pitch, he just pipes up when he has something valuable to say. With Rooney on top of the game, his comments are informative and lend a nice texture to the show.

     

    My knee jerk reaction is to blame my fellow St. Rita Alumni Ed Farmer for the comparatively poor broadcasts of the White Sox games, but I think it runs deeper than just him. ESPN advertises the games as the Ed and John talk show, and plays clips of them talking about anything except baseball.

     

    I surmise they have a vision that people will tune in just to listen to them rather than the game. Die hard fans like me will stay tuned despite the BS because we are into the game, but the idle patter might take some listeners from say, Jay Hood, across the dial. They might be right, but it sticks in my craw.

     

    I understand that over the course of 162 games, there will be some clunkers where hearing that Ed uses water on his wheat chex is better than the game, but not as a rule. There were many times this summer where the excitement of the game itself was missed.

     

    Rooney's performance in the ADLS is radio baseball at its best. I'd love to get a dose of it during the summer.

    Grinders

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    Soxfest Posted on Sep 29 2003, 03:59 PM

    Sox have not won a playoff series since 1959, a playoff game since 1993. You call it negativity if you wish , but I am not in dreamland saying everything is great for the Sox, sorry if being a realist about Sox baseball is hard for you to accept. If it bothers you that much skip my post, but it is called Soxtalk /not Rextalk.

     

    A good realist would know the boys haven't won a play off series since 1917, under Pants Rowland.

    Jerry Manuel Farewell

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    theoldroman Posted on Sep 28 2003, 05:21 PM

      I agree Jas. He may actually be a good manager, but his style doesnt work here. I wish good luck to him wherever he ends up... 

     

    Baloney, he is not a good manager. He's got a pitcher going for a no-hitter in the Seventh with a 5-0 lead and leaves Everett in left field. I like Everett but he's no golden glove. A ball that Rowand would have caught easily falls in. I also thought about Roberto for Aaron Miles. If you have a chance to accomplish something great you have to go for it and try make it happen, he just waited around hoping. The story of the whole season.

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