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And just to expand a little more, here is my RB situation in my work league RB1: Montee Ball RB2: Rashad Jennings BN: Danny Woodhead BN: Jeremy Hill BN: Devonta Freeman I did grab a solid play guy in Woodhead along with the upside guys so all is not lost if one of them doesn't pan out.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 26, 2014 -> 07:34 AM) Is that normal to be able to play a QB at the flex? My league just does RB/WR/TE. I just fought to have that removed from our work league. Its the worst, we had a super flex (QB/RB/WR/TE) and there was no reason not to start your draft off with QB-QB. QBs dominate the league, its not very fun IMO

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) Play Joique Bell over Chris Johnson, especially in PPR. You can't have all upside on your bench and wait for injuries, you also need some usefulness. Right now Greene should get some points if you have an injury/bye week etc. In that situation, you are playing Green over a Freeman or a Hyde at this moment. You need some safety guys to actually contribute. Hyde may not do anything unless an injury. You need a balance. Every team needs some Fred Jackson's etc. to contribute in spots to go along with some lottery picks. Also depends how big your bench is. If you have 4 bench spots, you really don't have room for lottery tickets unless they are handcuffs. I don't think every legit league has 4 weeks of playoffs. In a ten team league, we put 4 in. 15 and 16. That's legit enough, 6 teams shouldn't be making the playoffs in a 10 team league. If you have 12 teams I'm unsure of your set up to have 4 weeks worth of playoffs. Are you really putting in 8 teams? Also leagues should pay out for regular season as well, not just the more luck-driven playoffs at the end. Chris Johnson was 8th in PPR scoring last year, Bell was 15th. Not sure id go with Bell over Johnson especially since Bush is a bigger threat than anything the Jets have in terms of cutting into production. You just proved my point for me with the Fred Jackson comment. Upside on your bench doesn't mean all no name guys, it means guys with opportunity. Fred Jackson wasn't drafted very high last year, but was a guy with the right situation could become fantasy relevant. The goal is to "predict" the Fred Jackson this year, I believe that's going to be Jeremy Hill. Shonn Green cant stay healthy and the Titans invested a 2nd round pick in a back. Hes going to be pretty useless in terms of fantasy pretty quick. Also consider bye weeks as a factor as well. If your starting RBs don't go on by until weeks 7 or later, the longer you have to roster the guys who will most likely be at the head of the depth chart come those bye weeks. Maybe something was missed on the playoff thing, 3 weeks not 4 is what I was talking about. Fantasy season runs through week 13 and the playoffs are 14,15,16.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 07:14 PM) I think it's going to happen. This is there way of making him vulnerable and having him over come the odds and what not. Not only would Summerslam be a waste but Taker's streak would have been basically used to elevate Cena even more. It'll be pretty sad if it happens. Heres what I hope: Its night of champions so Lesnar has to be on the card, there's no time to just randomly throw someone into the title picture so a Cena rematch makes the most sense and then Lesnar can skip Hell in a Cell and make an appearance at Survivor Series. Cena puts up a better fight but ultimately falls short again, sending his story in a different direction and giving more time to get future opponents ready. Heres what I think: Cena defies all odds and defeats Lesnar at Night of Champions to become 16 time World Champion and then I get an email from wwe network with a picture of Vince McMahon in sunglasses that says "U Mad Bro?"

Ugh, if John Cena wins at Night of Champions Summer Slam will have been a COMPLETE waste

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 05:01 PM) I'm targeting round 9/10. I have the 12th pick in my PPR league (AGAIN, 2 years in a row now). Frankly, at that point, you are drafting WR/RB3's who have upside, so drafting a guy who could give you that type of total point output (meaning a WR3 output) over 8 games is quite a steal. And I mean, who are you going to keep over him, Jeremy Kerley (or whatever)? Yeah, if he's done for the season, I lose him, whoop dee doo. I bought into the Steven Jackson and David Wilson hype last year and got absolutely torhced for that, and I drafted them like 12/13. Yup nailed it. I have taken him in round 9 every time I got him. We will know whats going on with him before the season starts, so if he is out for the year big deal I can drop him and pick up another upside guy no problem. I am facing another problem though, I have Demaryius Thomas, Dez Bryant, and Randall Cobb. If Gordon comes back, I only can play 3 of them so I will be put in a tough spot in terms of playing or trading.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 05:13 PM) out of curiosity, when do most fantasy leagues end in here? Our playoffs begin Week 13 (3 playoff games, superbowl week 16), so 8 games suspension would be pretty brutal if I'm out of it by then. 8 games means hes back week 10 (They have a bye week 4) which means you would have him for 7 weeks if you go all the way to the title game. If you can make the roster spot work its definitely worth it. Ill edit it my leagues are the same as you stated, and I would think any legit league would be set up the same.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 04:33 PM) I got Gordon late last year and plan on doing so again this year. If the guy put up 1600 yards in 14 games with Weeden, Hoyer, and Campbell, throwing to him, imagine what he does when he has a guy like Manziel chucking bombs to him all the time. If he doesn't get suspended for the full year - hopefully he won't, because he shouldn't - he could easily win some leagues for guys. My gut feeling is this has taken way too long for him to be suspended for the season. I would guess 8 games, which means he is eligible to return for week 10. Quite the boost for the run to the fantasy playoffs. Ive been able to land him in all leagues but 1 so far.

And this should pretty much go without saying, if Josh Gordon wasnt drafted in your league go pick him up immediately.. Also, draft him if you haven't drafted yet.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 02:50 PM) Don't like this very much. Andre Johnson is a shaky WR2 and CJ1K is a very questionable RB2. You have zero depth at WR and the Chiefs defense is not going to be as good this year since their schedule is really, really difficult. I'm also not a big fan of QB/RB combos since more often than not they cannibalize each other. Andre Johnson is a pretty solid #2 PPR WR, I would feel comfortable with that. Chris Johnson as a RB2 is also a pretty solid get, he finished 8th in PPR scoring last season and is generally a top 10-15 guy which is borderline RB1 territory. Definitely agree on the Chiefs, but don't agree on the Rodgers/Lacy downgrade. I think that's a good pairing for that situation.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 11:23 AM) My 10 team ppr league QB Aaron Rodgers RB Eddy lacy RB Chris Johnson WR Dez Bryant WR Andre Johnson WR Reggie Wayne TE Vernon Davis FLEX Emmanuel Sanders DEF Chiefs K Blair Walsh Bench QB Tony Romo RB Ryan Matthews RB Joique Bell RB Darren McFadden WR Marquise Lee TE Jason Witten DEF Bengals Its hard to rate 10 team PPR leagues, everyone should have a solid team. I don't know what to really say about your team other than drop Marquise Lee for a better upside WR.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) Le'Veon Bell suspension looming, but not this season That would be excellent as I got him in the 4th round in a draft the other day

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 01:34 PM) Yeah I took some risks with Newton and Welker. Newton should be ready for week 1. I got him as the 7th QB so I'm more than happy with that. He'll have top 4 value if he's healthy. He so far has been. Welker I think will be just a monster with Decker gone if he does stay healthy. We'll see. I always look to go 3 straight rbs to open the draft in standard, as long as im not reaching. It's such a different beast than ppr. RB thins out way too quickly so i was happy with Lynch, Bell and Morris. Greene is terrible. I took him because he's the lead back in Tennessee and should get plenty of touches. Chris Ivory is actually good, but Johnson is handicapping him. Either way I'm more than happy to grab Ivory a few rounds later than Johnson. Carlos Hyde I like but he went earlier than I expected. Devonta Freeman is a hot name which is funny since as it stands now he's a 4th string rb and will be at best be in a committee only if the number 1 rb goes down. No thanks. Justin Hunter is fine but no way should you draft someone based on td to catch ratio. It should be the opposite, a cause for concern. Riley Cooper I love love love this year. WR is thin for a beastly Philadelphia offense. Him and Maclin are going to get a ton of looks with no one behind them. Especially true for Cooper if/when Maclin goes down. I like Terrance West a lot. Tate will get hurt. West has the size to be a workhorse and Cleveland should be running it a lot given their situation. I agree you need to go RB heavy in standard drafts, and I also agree that Newton will most likely be fine. However, I think Welker is the least appealing fantasy WR option on that team out of the big three and the concussion problem is a major concern. Freeman will work his way up that depth chart quickly, and the inevitable Steven Jackson injury is going to make Freeman one of the biggest waiver wire/late round scores of this year. He is killing it this preseason, and depth position in the preseason isn't the end all be all. Jaquizz and Smith had their chances before and couldn't cash in, Freeman will be the guy to get. You aren't drafting Hunter based off a TD catch ratio, you draft him based off of his potential. He is a big play threat every time he touches the ball, entering his sophomore year he has a real chance to be a difference maker at the WR position, especially for a team that doesn't have any playmakers. A guy like Riley Copper has a low ceiling. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if Jordan Mathews had a better season and emerged as the top Philly target once its all said and done. Guys like Riley Cooper are just sitting around on the waiver wire. Hes a 60 catch 900 yard 8 TD guy at his best. The guys who usually win fantasy leagues are the guys who are ahead of the curve on the breakout players. Agree on Terrence West.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 06:42 AM) Qb- Cam RB- Marshawn Lynch RB- Leveon Bell WR- Vincent Jackson WR- Wes Welker TE- jason Witten Flex- Alfred Morris K- Mason Crosby D- Cincy Bench: jones drew, Riley cooper, blount, shonn greene, chris ivory 10 team standard Not a fan. Although I don't play standard leagues, if your RBs hold up and Leveon Bell doesn't miss major time with a looming suspension it could be pretty nice. Wes Welker got his third concussion in what, 10 months? Who knows what you would get from that guy going forward, hes undraftable to me now. Jackson is too inconsistent. And as said already, Newton is banged up and has very little offensive weapons. Although, I guess you could say thats always been true about him. And I cant stress this enough, but people please go for upside with your bench. What does Shonn Greene, Legerrette Blount, and Chris Ivory offer you? They have no upside, where as guys like Carlos Hyde and Devonta Freeman are one broken down RB in front of them from becoming impact workload guys. Justin Hunter is going way late in drafts, he has 30 career catches in the preseason and regular season, 8 of them have gone for TDs. Hes a guy who could explode this year, Riley Cooper doesnt have the upside that a Justin Hunter has. Just my two cents.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 25, 2014 -> 12:06 PM) 10 is the most I will ever do and I prefer 12 teams. What I dislike are rosters where you play like 9 guys and the total roster size is 16. You almost exactly fill out 2 teams with the guys on your roster, and it sucks because you have guys who end up rostering like 7 WRs and they are all like top 60 guys and they end up with guys getting 15 points sitting on their bench while other people run out someone like Jerrico Cotchery because they don't have any other choice. Yeah all my 12 team drafts only have 4-5 bench spots to avoid that. Its weird doing a 14 round draft but it prevents what you just described

Im going to look to see if I can join a random 16 team league. That looks like it would be a real test to see how good of a fantasy player you are. I wont do a 10 team league again, everyone has good players and waiver wire is full of useful players.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Aug 24, 2014 -> 07:28 PM) So Cobb made it to the 4th? Yikes. You smoked those fools. Yep, I couldn't believe Ball and Cobb were both still there. I had the 12th pick, couldn't remember if I stated that or not. And funny enough, I also took RGIII in the 11th round.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 24, 2014 -> 06:28 PM) I really like Ellington this year, actually took him in the 3R, and I'm real interested in seeing what Chip Kelly does with Sproles. Going RB back to back to back did somewhat hurt my WR position, but I wouldn't call it very weak. Not flashy, but not bad. Had debated between Hunter and Jones in the last round. With 2 WRs and 2 RBs also on the bench why not snag a guy like Ebron who has huge upside IMO. I like Ellington too but I worry about how he will hold up in that division. Hes not a typically sized back, but he can make plays. The problem with your WRs are Vincent Jackson and Torrey Smith, in terms of fantasy, dont have the upside to be top 10-12. They are more like 15-20 guys at their best. They are also guys that will give you a 30 point weak and then put up 5-8 points for 4 weeks in a row. Shorts and Jones are nothing special, that's the only reason why as a whole group I would consider it weak. Aside from the fact that Marvin Jones will be out until at least week 5 with an injury, Justin Hunter looks primed for a breakout and has freakish skills. I like your two TEs better than Ebron already, maybe a lottery ticket on a WR or RB would have been better served for your squad over a 3rd TE. Its your team though, I just like to give my opinion on fantasy stuff.

This was my 12 team PPR mock from the other night, I was going with the zero RB strategy but had to change it a little bit due to a player falling to me I didnt expect to be available.. QB: Tony Romo RB: Montee Ball RB: Rashad Jennings WR: Demaryius Thomas WR: Dez Bryant TE: Kyle Rudolph Flex: Randall Cobb K: Mason Crosby Def: Pittsburgh BN: Josh Gordon BN: Robert Griffin III BN: Danny Woodhead BN: Jeremy Hill BN: Devonta Freeman Well know before the season whether or not Gordon will be playing this year, so thats an easy drop and replace if hes out for the year. I like Pittsburgh matchup hosting Cleveland week 1 and will be streaming defenses. Montee Ball slipped to the end of round 3 and I had to take him. He has a chance to be a top 5-7 back.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 24, 2014 -> 06:10 PM) Just finished up a PPR draft that I'm real happy with. QB- Stafford/RGIII WR- VJax WR- T. Smith RB- AP RB- Gio TE- Davis Flex- Ellington Flex- Reed D- Seattle K- Gostlowski Sproles, Ingram, Shorts, Ebron, Marvin Jones. Only whoopsies I made was Ellington and Gio both have week 4 byes WRs are very weak, RBs outside of AP and Gio are questionable. I would suggest looking into Jeremy Hill, Carlos Hyde, Devonta Freeman, Andre Williams at RB and then Justin Hunter at WR if they are out there. Ebron has been very iffy from early reports and you already have 2 TEs so why have him?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 24, 2014 -> 05:56 PM) Forgot you traded for him, I'm just giving you s*** cause you know what he did to my team last year. Anywho, just got done drafting my main league. 10 team, .5 ppr and 6 points per throwing td. Everything else is pretty standard: QB: Brees RB: AP RB: Lynch WR: Jordy Nelson WR: Victor Cruz TE: Dennis Pitta Flex: Colston DEF: TB(this will be matchup by committee, they have Carolina week 1 and the Rams week 2) K: Prater Bench: Steven Jackson, Stevan Ridley, Marqise Lee, Ahmad Bradshaw, Martellus Bennett, Kaepernik, Teddy Bridgerwater just because I like him. I love my starters, hate my bench. If everyone stays healthy I think I have a chance to be really good. Let me know what you guys think. Prater is suspended the first four games FYI

And yet, no one can back up any reason as to why Davidson wasn't ready. Based on what he did in Arizona last season, and then his .308/.341/.564/.906 slash line from spring training, I am suppose to buy into him not being ready? Sorry, that's not good enough. Now I will wait patiently for the next textbook soxtalk poster to tell me that on a board that has greg constantly posting, I am posting some of the most illogical stuff you've seen.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) You can't be serious. This is jokes, right? Yes, totally joking. I forgot that at communist soxtalk people don't discuss when they don't agree with you they just make wise ass one liners and try to be cute.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 21, 2014 -> 02:24 PM) Holy s*** that was awesome

lol, Gillaspie is not a starting position player at the MLB level. Get his two month hot streak out of your head, jesus. No one knows how Davidson would have played had he started in Chicago, so your argument that he wouldn't have been ready is just as "illogical" as me thinking getting sent back to AAA didn't have something to do with him struggling, even if its not the only reason.