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I can agree with you on the first part, there really is no scenario where an elite level talent just should be able to enter the league and just pick where they want to go.

Come on, it’s hard to complain about this one they didn’t shell out some crazy contract. Amazing place to live, top tier team, close to Japan, another Japanese superstar on the roster. Why wouldn’t you choose them?

Thanks a lot Caulfield

For sure, the year 1 of Sean Payton in Denver looked like a disaster to start but they really turned around this year and Bo Nix was great for a rookie.

I laughed when Denver took Nix at 12 overall, like WTF are you doing. Way wrong on that one. I will be taking either Caleb Williams or Bo Nix late in fantasy drafts next season, I think both are going to take another step forward next year provided the Bears do something about the OLine and hire the right coach.

I think its obvious whatever plan he had has completely changed after what happened last year. You don't make the signings and moves he made last offseason if you think your team is going to lose 110+ games. It definitely felt like he thought he could just swap out a few flawed pieces with defenders and that was going to fix the issues. I think a lot of what he has done so far this offseason is far better than what he did last season. I hope we don't spend 3/4 of the season trotting out washed vets just because. I hope they have a tighter leash and cut bait faster to ensure the young guys who need development get their time. We don't need Bryse Wilson making 25 starts with a 5+ ERA if we have 3,4,5 other young guys who are ready to make starts on the big club.

Yes the White Sox should absolutely do that. I don’t think they will though and also don’t think it ends up being that big of a deal based off what I’ve already said.

Yes, it does have value I’m not trying to say it doesn’t. If, example, Colson has a strong rookie season, a really good 2nd season, then blows up in year 3 he is either going to sign one of those sweetheart extensions, sign a big time extension, or get traded because neither of the first two options happened. All of those scenarios make an extra year of control trivial in the big picture if you’re dealing a rising star with 2 to 2.5 years of control left. The White Sox have a massive hole at SS, one of the better SS prospects in baseball, and a turd of a season on the horizon. If he wins the job, give him the job. I’d wager that has a pretty strong possibility of happening.

I don’t think that would matter much when you’re talking about a star level player as the team trading for him would more than likely lock them up.

They all signed reasonable early extensions, you know what I’m talking about you just like to be a dipshit for no reason.

The logic is if any prospect for the Sox becomes a star level player, they will be traded before they see any extra year of control here because we won’t pay them what it would take to lock them up, therefor, there is no reason to play that game. Did you guys just start following the team or something?

Just that it helps the White Sox sooner really. The reason to play the service time game is to get the extra year of control, if that doesn't matter there no longer becomes a reason to play the game. Just get the best player on your roster at that point. Its also more enjoyable as me as a fan to watch.

If they play the service game with Colson and he comes up in May and becomes Alex Rodriguez, he will never see the end of that control in a White Sox uniform as of today. I would rather take a shot at the extra draft pick for the situation we are in with the decision maker of this organization. I agree with you though, you should always maximize the control of your high end talent (potential) but even saying that you should be locking them up long before that extra year means anything anyways. In a perfect world at least.

Andrew Vaughn has played in 562 games and has a career bWAR of 1.1 He is not, and has proven he wont be, fine.

I gotta say, everything we have done (or not done) is pointing at Colson being the SS on the main roster sooner rather than later. The service time thing is not worth stressing over. If these guys come up and become stars they will never see year 6 or later in a Sox uniform anyways. There's no point.

Here's how I get to contender overnight in the ALC with what could easily be an obtainable payroll for a Chicago market team in my fantasy world. In this world, Vaughn is a .750 OPS guy, Benintendi continues how he ended 2024, Luis Robert bounces back to a 5+ war player and we never traded Crochet. C- Edgar Quero ($1m) 1B- Andrew Vaughn ($5m) 2B- Gleyber Torres ($15m) 3B- Colson Montgomery ($1m) SS- Willy Adames ($26m) LF- Andrew Benintendi ($17m) CF- Luis Robert ($15m) RF- Juan Soto ($51m) DH- Pete Alonso ($25m) SP- Corbin Burnes ($33m) SP- Garrett Crochet ($3m) SP- Trevor Williams ($7m) SP- Davis Martin ($1m) SP- Jonathan Cannon ($1m) CL- Clay Holmes ($13m) Payroll: Approx. 214 Million for the starters above, and toss in another $15-20 for bench and bullpen. for a total payroll in the neighborhood of $235 million. That would put them 7th in baseball right behind the powerhouse Atlanta market and right in front of some team called the Cubs, not sure where they play but must be a big market since they have a $229 million payroll.

There's never going to be a better situation than now to let the kids play as much as possible. What were doing is going to end up with us giving up on someone and seeing them blossom somewhere else.

Stop making sense or you’ll summon westeddy to derail the thread.

Yeah, it would be nice to have guys like that in the system.

Dude maybe he can be ok and then we can flip him at the deadline for an Aaron Combs type guy!

You may be right, and probably are for the small market teams, but I need to see it to believe it for the White Sox. A quick google search shows me the largest TV markets in the US are Los Angeles, New York, and…. Chicago.

The Dodgers built a brand and reap the rewards of it. If the Sox spent the money, filled the stadium every game, and built a competitive marketable product they would be printing money just like the Dodgers. While it does suck the same handful of teams are the only ones signing these players and trading for the superstars, they weren’t given an advantage they built it. It’s 2025 for fucks sake how do you get away with $75 million being the largest contract you’ve ever given out. Same goes for all these other teams that aren’t interested in trying.

Yes, you are correct you could have considered Shane Drohan a prospect. The difference here is you included him on your list of good young SP prospects we have, and literally 7 days after your post the White Sox cut him.

I don't understand your trolling here. Shane Drohan was a Rule 5 draft pick who threw a whole 9 innings for the White Sox minor leagues. You included him in your list of "legit" pitching prospects we have. You claimed Matthew Thompson wasn't a prospect, I corrected you because you were wrong. Please note I never said he was legit or a top prospect, only that a 23 year old in AA should be considered prospect. Shouldn't you be lurking for SS2K5 posts to argue over?

I just don't see how they get to 50 wins. The pitching staff is bad, the offense is bad, and they haven't done anything to improve the worst roster in baseball history. Sportsbooks aren't making the over/under 49.5 if its going to be really hard for them to win less than 50 games, that's not how it works.