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As much as I want to assault you for even posting this, lets just consider this.. Assume they need 90 wins to make the playoffs. They would have to go 76 - 42 the rest of the way to get there. 76 - 42.

I tuned in while at work for a minute and saw a cool graphic that said he ranks #1 in MLB for catchers for Pop Time and Throw Strength. Very nice to see.

He's way more valuable to the Sox as a trade chip than a 33 year old pitcher making $20 million a year in a rebuilding cycle.

Chris Getz is really bad at his job so far. Forget the names, who cares, but teams on a 100 loss trajectory do not need to be trading ANY 20 year olds with a pulse for 28 year old AAAA players. There isn't some warm body somewhere you could have signed for AAA depth? This is what I am just so confused about. Why give away a 20 year old kid for someone who is more likely to be DFA'd this season than have any meaningful impact on this franchise. It makes no sense.

Because we have a terrible manager

Man Soxtalk loves them some Jake Burger.

There were some decent seasons 2008-2012. 2013 through today though, embarrassing.

Ive been a fan. as far as I can remember, for about 32 years or so now. Ive never known the White Sox to be as worthless as they have been for the last 12 years minus 2021, the fruit of our rebuild, which abruptly ended after one 93 win season. My lasting memories of the Sox is they were good for 83 to 88 wins and generally offered an enjoyable viewing experience most seasons. What has been going on for the past decade has been just total s%*#.

The White Sox are not going to sign Fedde to an extension. They would need to commit minimum $18-20 million per year for multiple years if he is this low 3 ERA guy. Let some other team that doesn't care about money make that signing.

I agree, I don't believe him at all that he cares about truly winning and the Getz in house hiring just proved to me that it's still the same s%*# different year. However, I do believe that no one likes to be embarrassed so the quicker this team craters out and Pedro is fired and eventually we move on from Getz by JR's hand or the next one the better this franchise will be. I really don't like my favorite baseball team being trash. Nobody here should be campaigning to keep guys like Fedde and Crochet and Robert so we can get a handful of extra wins out of a miserable season. The goal should be sustained success and cashing in on these guys now is how you get the chance to reach that goal.

Were fans of arguably the worst franchise in MLB history all things considered. Been around since 1901 and have made the playoffs 11 times. I am OK with them losing to such an embarrassing point it forces changes to be made. We just saw this happen last season when the front office guys with seemingly lifetime contracts were finally let go because of the 100 loss campaign. You think they were getting fired if this team was 81-81? No shot.

At 12-29 and coming off a little hot streak a lot of people are now "See, they weren't really as bad as it started" however, their pyth. W/L is 11-30, so yeah its still pretty bad overall. This team is still not going to be competitive next season, so with that in mind if im the GM, the following names are on the block right now and traded this season pending.... If the offer blows the doors off: Luis Robert (Otherwise, get him healthy and trade in the off-season/2025 deadline) If the offer is strong with legit prospects: Garrett Crochet (Otherwise, finish the year hopefully strong and trade in the off-season/2025 deadline) Must be traded this season by the deadline, ranked by expected return: Return Tier 1: Erick Fedde Return Tier 2: Michael Kopech; Steven Wilson Return Tier 3: Tommy Pham; John Brebbia Return Tier 4: Gavin Sheets; Paul DeJong; Chris Flexen

No, keeping a pitcher that puts up a low 3 ERA on two bad seasons then watching him leave for nothing doesn’t sound fun at all. Trading him for a handful of prospects that could be here for 6 years and contribute to a winning Sox team sounds like a blast however.

Yeah a no brainer for guys like Kopech, Brebbia, and Wilson. Leasure is cheap, young, good, and still has 5+ years of control. That’s not the guy to trade.

Why would they trade Leasure? I’ll assume you meant someone else.

The Sox can cover his remaining salary for this year and the $5 million buyout to move him. There would be no risk for the other team if that’s what happens.

Maybe im confusing Moncada with Robert then, I thought he was due back at some point by the end of the month.

Im not going to pretend to know what happens outside of my field of view but I would be pretty shocked to see Moncada at 1B or RF as far as I know hes never even taken a rep there. He hasn't played 2B since 2018, which doesn't mean he couldn't, but again it seems ridiculous that this would just happen now. I still think Moncada has a chance to be traded for something as well. If you're going to decline his option you are going to pay him anyways so pay him now and see if you can get something for him. That would require him getting back and performing and sticking him at positions hes never played before doesn't seem to support that.

Unfortunately, I think he will be gone soon. When Moncada comes back, there's nowhere for him to play. He hasn't played anything other than 3B since 2021 from what I can see and there's no point in having him up and not playing.

To be honest with you if Fedde, Kopech, Wilson, and Brebbia are all traded and were still trotting out Soroka, Lopez and Maldonado OR cutting bait there and replacing them with young guys that might not quite be ready yet I can definitely see another brutal stretch like that in the second half at some point.

Oof, that team stinks. Probably worse than the roster we have now. They will have to spend a fortune in FA to get this thing even remotely close to competitive and that just aint going to happen. I would enjoy watching this team way more than todays team though, so at least thats something.

Because some people can't see/understand the big picture. If you want any chance at sustained success then trading players like this now is the only realistic way that this franchise can build something.

Well for one, this team will still be rebuilding next season. Erick Fedde is only signed through next season. If he keeps this up, through this season and next season as a front of the rotation type starter. The White Sox, in no way shape or form, are going to resign a 33 year old SP to the contract that his performance will demand. If he keeps this up for this season only and then stinks next season, your value on him will crater and then you get nothing and he still doesn't help this franchise moving forward. The only logical outcome here is to hope he keeps this up over the next two months, and then he is traded for a nice package of prospects that will help this team in the future when they expect to be good again.

We got a 23 year old bullpen prospect for a 34 year old OFer with no future here. Whats not to like about that? The prospect, 3.15 ERA and 12.8 K rate in 103 minor league innings. While he most likely never makes it, its a wonderful return for 71 at bats of Robbie Grossman on a rebuilding team.

Trading Burger was the right call, you can argue about the return that's fair but there is just nowhere for this guy to play here right now. 3B, DH, and 1B are all occupied with people who can't be traded and can't be unloaded until 2025. For a team in the midst of a 100 loss season followed by a front office overhaul and a rebuild, it just made way more sense to trade him since he was one of the few assets we had.