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QUOTE (dasox24 @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 12:19 AM) I don't think he purposely intended to hurt him, but he did mean to throw a chopblock, which always has a high chance of hurting a player. That's why that type of block is illegal. So don't tell me he's innocent. If you throw a chopblock, you know the territory that goes with it. It's the preseason! There's no need for doing something illegal that could hurt another player. If it were a regular season game, I could understand it more b/c he's doing anything it takes to win. But this game didn't matter, so why go low on a guy on his blindside? dude, the only time QBs ever block is going low like that.. In the middle of the play going through his head was prolly not "Im gonna chop block this guy" Im not saying hes innocent, just saying that he didn't mean to hurt him and he prolly wasn't intent on doing a chop block. Its just the nature of the type of block hes use to adding in the fact he was split out like a WR. Either way, im not arguing that it wasn't wrong he was just put in a bad situation.

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 11:24 PM) I was watching the game last night when it happened, and it pisses me off. I mean, it's the f***ing preseason, and Favre is making blindside chop-blocks like that? Go f*** yourself, Favre, you 40 year old b****. Stay retired. I'm not a Texans fan or anything, but that's bush league. Oh please, I wonder how many times Favre has been split out wide and asked to block like that. There is ZERO chance that Favre did that with the intentions of hurting Wilson.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 07:14 PM) Oh, well I can't speak to the size of it, as I haven't really watched ECW in months. I'm speaking solely of the black and silver look. Ok, well the "look" is pretty cool.. however, they made it like this XXL belt for when Henry was champion and never changed it back. Thats what looks goofy about it, if it was normal sized, it would look pretty nice.

QUOTE (thedoctor @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 07:19 PM) at the same time, kw's job to to put the best possible sox team on the field, not do favors for good guys. as soon as they traded him a bad sox team got worse. this strikes me as a more impulsive move than i'm used to seeing out of kw. Would getting some other players ABs to see what we may have for next season while being out of it for this season change that? There is no reason to have a 39 year old DH when were done.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 05:03 PM) I like that news. Does anyone else think the ECW belt is f***ing awesome? No its too big.. I cant believe they didnt change it after Henry was done with it. Either way, its way too big and looks goofy.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 02:37 PM) No one's going to beat this, the first response. SouthsideDon just beat it

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 05:57 PM) Because he would not get a ring if the Dodgers win, silly. (Apparently we will give him a ring if we win even though he will no longer be on our team when we win). Ahh thank you for making it clear for me.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 05:52 PM) KW knows that we will be facing the Dodgers in the World Series, and this way Thome will get a ring no matter which way the series goes. So why not just keep him then instead of giving him away?!?!?!

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 05:29 PM) We will miss his bat when the playoffs roll around....no question about it. I just hope we still have enough offense to bring another World Series championship to the south side this season. lolz Anyways, think of it as us getting Hynick for Thome and nothing for Contreras.. we shouldn't have gotten anything for either but hey, maybe he can be something.

QUOTE (CryptviLL @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 02:21 PM) "There is a new WWE championship belt in the works to replace the current spinning one." Source: The Sun. wrestling-radio.com excellent

QUOTE (CryptviLL @ Sep 1, 2009 -> 01:46 PM) Apparently the spinner title belt is going away and a replacement is coming, another thing wwe is doing right. Maybe they finally decided to switch some things up... I couldnt stand that belt So they: Got the belt fixed the tag team division into one titles and going smackdown becoming a solid show (still some problems) now just gotta fix the other 100 problems Where did you hear this? I HATE the spinner belt.. although, it doesn't even spin now anyways.. it still looks cartoonish

QUOTE (tommy @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 11:38 PM) I was just going to ask.. have we waived the white flag? More like throwing in the towel as we weren't planning on keeping either of them anyways and didn't effect our 2010 plans. I always viewed the white flag as selling off pieces we had use for still.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 06:36 AM) Your logic is pretty twisted. "Get players who perform." So if the players have a past success of quality performance before Kenny gets them and they start to under perform once Kenny does get them it's on Kenny? So if Peavy goes 5-15, 5.62 ERA next year that's on Kenny? I don't think so. Who is it on then.. When a team trades prospects for an expensive player who does not perform for the team its not going to come back to the GM who acquired him? Ive already said the players are number one, my logic is fine here you guys just don't read

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 07:20 AM) Um, the players he got aren't performing. How is that Kenny's fault? It can't be on anyone else BUT the players. That is flawed logic. No s*** dude, ive already said the order of blame was 1. Players 2. KW I was explaining to someone else WHY Kenny would get some blame here. And the fact that you say "Um, the players he got aren't performing. How is that Kennys fault?" What the f*** do you think the GM job is? No GM would ever get fired if that wasn't their fault.

This upcoming PPV just reeks of disappointment.. Yeah right, like John Cena is EVER going to say "I Quit".. Im going to avoid buying it to save myself to face palm of seeing Orton get Super Cena'd. And I agree, how the hell do they plan on keeping the strap on CM Punk. You cant have the Undertaker submit. Maybe have him catch a GTS and then get put in the Anaconda Vice but since he is "knocked out" Punk wins it? That seems very unlikely. Lastly, the Hart Dynasty is so far away from being in a PPV match with DX that's not even fathomable right now. There is no way to even get that ball rolling, especially since they are tied up with Legacy right now. Legacy is starting to get built up pretty well, its only a matter of time before they beat DX in some fashion.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 31, 2009 -> 01:14 AM) No way it's on Kenny. Kenny filled a lot of holes, it's just players aren't nearly living up to their potential. Dude that's why it IS on Kenny.. His job is to get players who perform, the players aren't performing (not living up to their potential) so how can it be on anyone else? This may just be a bad stretch right now, they may start performing. Thats why im not saying KW needs to go or anything.. however, if there was blame to be placed it should be on the person who CHOSE the players to be on this team that aren't getting the job done. Ozzie is only asked to make dinner, he doesn't get to shop for the ingredients. And its not like we are a small budget team that doesn't have the resources to build a contending team either.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 10:44 PM) AARON ROWAND IS BAD AT BASEBALL. Seriously people stop this. So who said to bring Rowand back? What exactly are people suppose to be stopping? Saying he was a lot better than Brian Anderson?

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 06:17 PM) Ozzie's handling of Brian was terrible, and there's a great chance Konerko doesn't come back after 2005 without the Thome trade. With the exception of 2007, which was a lost year for the Sox, Rowand's numbers have been very pedestrian. His handling of him may have been terrible but its still up to Brian to produce. He was given plenty of chances and did nothing with them. And while Rowands numbers may have been pedestrian they were still significantly better than anything that has been in CF since. a .270 avg and a .330 OBP with good defense is so pedestrian yet we haven't even gotten close to that since Rowand left. And im not saying you are wrong, im just saying its a glaring hole that only one man can fix, KW.

Is it Ozzies fault we trade Rowand for Thome and then had nothing but Brian Anderson for years holding out hope he would one day turn the light on? We had a CF problem for years, has nothing to do with Ozzie.

QUOTE (stretchstretch @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 05:34 PM) I voted Guillen, as I explained in detail in a few other threads. I'm a little stunned how many baseball knowledgeable people blame the 5 varied 40 man rosters we've had from 2005-2009 for collapsing in the final two months of the season, when they've all been driven by the same manager? When a club is underperforming, people say what does a manager do anyway? well if there's one thing he does is right the ship when it veers off course, and that means keeping the athletes focused, confident, hungry and driven. how do they do that? well, the good/great one's know, the lesser ones such as Ozzie clearly don't. in short, if we had the same guys for 5 yrs, that'd be one thing, but too many players from outside organizations have come here and caught White Sox Fever in August/September along with the rest of the club.... It's not KW, it simply cannot be the collective 5 x 40 man rosters, that leaves one Venezuelan constant Yes, Ozzie needs to man up and tell Dye to stop hitting in the low .100s That should fix him right up. Maybe if he gives Linebrink a special massage he will start pitching better too. OR, do you think the problem is that these 40 man rosters over the past 5 years have had the same problems every season that weren't properly addressed?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 05:10 PM) Cause on paper it isn't a mediocre team, it's actually a pretty solid one. You're right, that's why the players have to be the number one blame. The fact that they aren't producing, and KW is the person who put it all together, is the reason why he should also be blamed. Like I said though, im not blaming KW right now.. I guess there is still some chance we remove our head from our ass and get back in it but I wont hold my breath for it. I just know that KW put this team together, and even if the players don't perform he shouldn't get a pass. Its his job to bring in players to get the job done, not put together a great looking team on paper.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 30, 2009 -> 05:02 PM) I'd blame it on everyone except Kenny Williams. Putting any blame on him is quite funny to me actually. Really? He is the one who put this mediocre team together. Im not blaming him, but, to say that he shouldnt be blamed at all and if he is its funny doesn't make sense. If you were going to make a list at who should be held accountable for this teams performance ide prolly have it 1. The Players 2. KW 3. Ozzie

I agree with Fathom For a team that was coming off a division title with expectations to do it again trading a starting OF and SP and getting nothing in return to help your MLB team was not very good. And yes, im aware we cleared salary and got prospects.

Its the players, just about every one of them is slumping horribly right now and recently

How can you blame Ozzie for Dye hitting like .120 since the break? Is it Ozzies fault Buehrle has been garbage since his perfect game? The players performance is what is hurting this team most, more than Ozzie making a bad lineup or bad pitching change.. Thats the problem, the players aren't getting it done.. thats Kenny, not Ozzie.