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I think its almost a certainty that Getz believed he put together a roster much better than the 2023 roster. The whole premise to hiring Getz was built on the fact that JR couldn't waste time with a rebuild and he owed it to the fans to right this ship immediately. Not once did they ever say this was a rebuild. It wasn't until the season went off the rails almost immediately that Getz started talking about things "taking time". I guarantee you they went into this season expecting way more than 60 wins.
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People are throwing a fit because the 2024 White Sox are quite literally the worst team in baseball history with an unqualified GM who has continually made the wrong move, a middling farm system, and no money will be spent to improve the big league team. If people want to "wait and see" with Getz, whatever, you do you. Im not going to pat him on the back for firing people who deserved to be fired. Everyone deserves to be fired after losing 120+ games.
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Seriously, im not giving Getz credit for firing people that should have been fired before this season even started. Hell, Getz should have been one of those people. So far, he's done nothing right. The team he put on the field this year is literally the worst team in baseball history. Yes, some of the players don't have his fingerprints on them but a lot of them do. Great, he let go of people who should have been let go a while ago. Lets see what he does with the manager now, and with Crochet and Robert, and what little money he will be allowed to spend this off-season. He has a long way to go and a LOT to prove before I change my outlook on him and this organization.
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My favorite part so far is they finally fire Pedro, and they are somehow even worse.
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Good analogy with Clemson. You would think that this season would force some kind of mass changes. I don't understand how he can't see this and be like "Man, I made a terrible decision".
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And honestly, this team doesn't need a top notch manager right now. That's who they needed to hire back in 2021. They need to try to find some promising young guy with potential that can hopefully become a top notch manager. Anyone top notch right now probably isn't interested in watching over a 90-100 loss team for the next two to three years.
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Chasing Records — 121 losses, modern MLB record
T R U replied to Paulie4Pres's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I mean you're not wrong, but they still play the A's and Angels 9 times over the rest of the season and they are winning 3-4 games per month so it will be close. -
Chasing Records — 121 losses, modern MLB record
T R U replied to Paulie4Pres's topic in Pale Hose Talk
They need to go 12-10 to avoid 120 losses, zero chance that happens. They most likely go 5-17 and finish with 126 losses. And I think 5 is generous, this team has nothing. -
If JR had any pride he would realize he made a terrible mistake trying to not “waste a year” and completely clean house. What’s happening here is unprecedented and will most likely never be seen again. Well, unless he does nothing then I can see the 2025 White Sox saying “hold my beer”.
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Chasing Records — 121 losses, modern MLB record
T R U replied to Paulie4Pres's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I can’t believe they’re really going to lose 120+ games. It shouldn’t be possible to be this bad, and it’s not like they’re just unlucky they are legit atrocious in all facets. The Marlins and Rockies are terrible, and even they probably get 60 wins. We’re almost 30 games worse than that. Incredible. -
9/1 GT - Mets at Sox (1:10pm CT)
T R U replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in 2024 Season in Review
Yeah, this is literally the worst baseball team of all time. In 2024, incredible how that’s even possible. -
9/1 GT - Mets at Sox (1:10pm CT)
T R U replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in 2024 Season in Review
It doesn’t matter how much money he has to spend, he’s done nothing at all to instill confidence that he can make good moves. -
9/1 GT - Mets at Sox (1:10pm CT)
T R U replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in 2024 Season in Review
Yeah I don’t want to hear any excuses for Getz, his roster construction is a huge part of why this is about to be record setting bad. -
That was a great trade for the Royals, but like you said it was way against the odds. Ragans was not a blue chip prospect and he was pretty bad as well at the time of the trade as a 25 year old. The Royals should be thrilled with how that worked out.
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DeLoach has 9 games under his belt, his minor league performance is encouraging and even if he just becomes a 4th OFer the trade then becomes a slam dunk because as I said previously, 100 loss teams have no use for good relievers. You can make the argument that Santos doesn't even fall under that category as he one good season of 66 IP. Santos did have value, that's why the Sox got 2 close to MLB ready prospects and a draft pick for him. Its hard for me to not see this one as anything but a win, as I have a hard time believing you were getting anything more valuable than the package we got back. As far as Cease goes, who knows what kind of performance he would have had on this team this season. Im still happy with the package we got back as I think Thorpe is definitely an MLB pitcher, Iriarte looks promising, and I still believe in Sammy Zavala. Hes a 19 year old in Advanced A ball who had a 17% walk rate, 22% K rate, and has some pop. Not ready to call him a bust just yet.
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Chasing Records — 121 losses, modern MLB record
T R U replied to Paulie4Pres's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Well they have already gone 0-3 in the stretch where I thought they could go 5-10. I don't think there is anyway they go 5-7 so I may have to revise my 38 win prediction down a couple notches. -
When you consider how bad our team is, how bad our team will be for a while, and the wasteland of our minor leagues I would say getting 3 prospects for an injured middle reliever with no track record of sustained success was definitely a win for the White Sox. DeLoach didn't do anything in his very brief stint at the MLB level, but hes 25 and hit .285 with a .777 OPS at the AAA level so at least there's a chance you can get something out of him even if its a 4th OFer. Berroa is a 24 year old reliever, the results aren't there but if they can get his walks under control you have something. Hes got a big time arm. And then of course the draft pick, a LHP prep arm who alone I would have rather had than some reliever throwing 50 innings on a 120 loss team. The other thing to consider here is Santos threw a whole 5 innings for the Mariners this season and who knows if he will ever do anything close to what he did in 2023 again.
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The Santos trade was a no doubt successful trade. 100 loss teams have no use for good relievers so getting essentially 3 prospects for him is an easy win.
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Yep, that's pretty obvious by how nothing at all has changed since he took over.
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Oh boy, this team is so bad and the future is so bleak. They literally need starting MLB caliber players at 8 of 9 spots on offense and the one they have (Robert) isn't making a strong case for it.
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No kidding. In trying to not waste a year he probably ended up wasting 3+ years. The decision to hand over control to an in house unqualified GM has set this organization back so far its not even funny. Its likely that JR never sees a winning Sox team again in his lifetime. And its no ones fault but his own.
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Your 31-101 White Sox against the Texas Rangers 7:10 CST Game Thread
T R U replied to bmags's topic in 2024 Season in Review
lol I don't even know if you can count 50 people in this picture. -
Chasing Records — 121 losses, modern MLB record
T R U replied to Paulie4Pres's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I don't see them winning 9 games over these last 30. @ Baltimore (3), @ Boston (3), Vs. Cleveland (3), @ San Diego (3), @ Detroit (3) is 15 games against people still fighting for playoff positioning. I think Baltimore, Boston, and San Diego all sweep them at home. They take 1 from Cleveland and Detroit to go 2-13 here. Vs Texas (3), Vs New York Mets (3), Vs Oakland (3), @ Los Angeles Angels (3), Vs. Los Angeles Angels (3) is 15 games against bad teams that are still way better than our bad team. 5-10 here. That puts them at 38 wins as my guess. It will be very surprising to see them get to 40 wins.