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QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 07:23 PM) In terms of seeding I think you have to go Illinois, Duke, BC, and then Wake over NC because they won head to head. 1. Illinois 2. Duke 3. KU 4. Wake that would be my 4

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 07:19 PM) I don't think it was ever down really, if everyone got their head out of the ACC's ass, they'd realize that perhaps the best ball in the land is played in the Big 10. I think its clear the ACC owns the Big 10 but I do agree the Big 10 doesnt get enough credit

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 07:12 PM) Thought so. We'll see what the spread is first. 16 may be a stretch indeed, as I envision a close game, especially at the Bres. haha AT MSU 16 is a stretch... I only say that because my friend likes to IM with "MSU by 16" and sign off before I can respond... I imagine the spread will be Illinois by 4-7

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 07:06 PM) Okay, enough about that. You going to wager or not? Ehh... 16 may be a strecth because I only said that because of my friend, but if you wanna go spread with it im down

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 07:00 PM) You don't care because they haven't done s*** in the past. That's fairly easy to determine. No, I dont care because the past is done... Were not gonna win any titles in the past, but we could this year, and thats all Im worried about..

QUOTE(He_Gawn @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 06:53 PM) I said the same thing when they talk s*** about IU. They say dont live in the past. because I dont care about what happened in the past, RIGHT NOW were #1 and we have passed all challenges so far... smashed Wake, beat Wiscy AT Wiscy Im not saying they are going undefeated... but everyone talking bout their teams "past" accomplishments are usually the teams that are sorry right now 20 - 0 #1 (Carl brushes off Illinois' shoulder)

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 06:47 PM) By the way, care to lay some action on that game and give me the 16 or were you just talk? what did you have in mind

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 05:22 PM) Jeff Burton and Ricky Rudd in no particular order. NASCAR is not a sport

hahahaha thats great Ive seen random planes crash before AND when I was doing the flight school I was flying through the rings and another plane hit me and I failed

QUOTE(3E8 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) UW was leading by 8 with 10 to go just like Badgers said. The most UofI was down this whole season was 9 to my Boilermakers, but we totally suck. UW has major talent. You have your opponents down by one point less than a season high halfway through the second half on your home court....you have to put that game away. Your second sentence is almost fact. You're right about UW not dominating. But they were leading and did lose it in the final minutes. They should have won. Im sorry but 8 point lead with 10 minutes left is nothing that cant be over come.. UW does not have major talent, and have nowhere near the talent that Illinois has.. and Illinois was up one with 3:39 left, I wouldnt exactly call that the end of the game..

Dolphins - - - - - - - - - White Sox - - - - Illini (Football/Basketball) - - Kansas State (Football) - Avalanche - - Astros/Texans - - Rockets/Bears/Bulls - - Ohio State/Texas/Florida/Minnestoa/Florida State/Wisconsin (College Football) - Packers/Vikes - Panthers/Ravens NOTE: I listed some teams that I like but the MAIN ones are Dolphins,White Sox, Illini, Bears/Bulls, Avalanche, Kansas State, and the Houston Teams

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 04:56 PM) Please just shutup already. Come out of the woodwork? Should have won? Don't buy the hype? Why don't you worry about your badgers. Sour grapes at this point. Just give it up. See Badger, im not the only one

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 04:53 PM) Man of steel, Yeah Id call it panic when people like Head are drinving the line throwing behind the back passes out of bounds. You want to live in your delusional world where Illinois was at all times in command, go ahead. nah didnt say they were at all times in command, but for most of the game, yes they were in command.. Whenever Wisconsin went on a little streak Illinois was right there to answer it, your little 8 point lead with 10 minutes left is just ridiculous... 8 points can be shaven down to 2 within LESS than a minute

QUOTE(3E8 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 04:51 PM) 1) UW should have won. Instead of just saying "UW shoulda won" how bout you actually give a reason for that... Illinois was leading at the half, so its not like Wisconsin dominated the game and then lost it in the final minutes... Im interested to hear your reasoning because I dont think youve got any Illinois was up by 1 with 3:39 left at Wisconsins home court... if they SHOULD have won they would have done it, but they couldnt, and not because they "choked" which they didnt, but because Illinois is a far better team.. a choke would be what michigan state did at Wiscy.... uhhh, 8 pt lead with 10 minutes left though... get real

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) Where have I made on excuse? Go through the thread, If I was the Wisconsin coach I would say that is a game that we "should" have won. Whenever we are up at our home we expect to win. Whenever we play at home we expect to win. So when we are up 8 and 2 consecutive possessions have a chance to put it at double digits, I consider that a game we should have won. You all seem to forget that while Wisconsin was up 8, Illinois started to panic, and if it were not for Ingram's 2 three pointers, they game may of very well ended up in Wisconsin's favor. But that is what happens, some times players come up big at critical moments, where as other times the ball just does not seem to fall (lay up by Wisconsin to bring the game back to 3 missed and then it was a roller coaster.) The hype is that Illinois can not lose. I grew up as an Illini fan, I have spent every year of my life except for 4 in Illinios (while at College). If I sincerely thought Illnios was unbeatable, I would post it, it would be easier to admit that Illinois just flat out played Wisconsin than to say, Wisconsin could have won. You can all think what you want, but there is no way Illinois ends up undefeated. SB you couldnt be anymore WRONG Illinois panic??? Correct me if im wrong, but everytime Wisconsin got out by a few points Illinois came back to either tie it or take the lead EVERY time.. and its not SHOULD have won, its COULD have won... but Illinois played better when it mattered and DID win... bottom line "this is a game we could have won" nothing that happened down the stretch was due to Wisconsin mistakes, Illinois played better when it was crunch time and DID win... shoulda, coulda, woulda, DIDNT

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) No Wisconsin should have won. Up 8 at home with 10 minutes left, where they have not lost in almost 3 years. That is a game that "SHOULD" have been won. Had they only ever led by 2, etc, that is a game they "could" have won. It was an anomoly that Wisconsin lost that game, to say anything else is to deny what really happened. And for all of the bragging in this thread, Illinois had to eventually beat Wisconsin. I mean Wisconsin beat Illinois multiple times last year, I do not think any reasonable Badger fan would think that it would happen two years in a row. But if you think, Wisconsin does not have a shot at Assembly Hall... There is a reason why they play the game. SB Since when is an 8 point lead with 10 minutes left safe and SHOULD be a win???? 8 freaking points, go home fool your team got beat by the better team, your streak is over, get over it quit making excuses for your badgers

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) in a recent interview she said that she was just joking and Kris Benson knew that too. She also said she would do anything for Kris if he won the cy young.. anything. Ide be willing to bet she would do anything anyways

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) I think Wisconsin should of won, but at a critical time when they were 8 up they got complacent and pulled both Tucker and Wilkinson. Illinois played a very good game, and I think that they are far more talented in the back court than Wisconsin is. That being said, I do not think Illinois is unbeatable, and I think a lot of people are getting ahead of themselves thinking that they are going to sweep the Big 10. Congrats on the win, hopefully Wisconsin learns from this and is ready for Assembly Hall, the Big 10 tourney, and the NCAA. SB should have won?.. nah.. Illinois played better when it mattered, the final 3 minutes of the game when it was MUST HAVE Wisconsin COULD have won if they would have played, but those final minutes of the game proved how better Illinoi is than Wisconsin AND Michigan State for that matter.. putting away the game when the heat is on, and Illinois took care of it against Wisconsin and Iowa..

QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 01:34 PM) There are NO unbeatable teams in college basketball. None. What this game proved is that Illinois can beat any team if it wants to. Isnt that basically saying Illinois is unbeatable?? Why would they ever go into a game and NOT want to beat someone?

haha speaking of I JUST read this on CBSSportsline Thats a lot of screwing Note to Self: Become a New York Met Bat Boy

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 03:00 AM) I protest that catagorization of her, and the dime-store hooker remark above yours. That is totally uncalled for. She never said a word about charging the Mets for her services. Duh Duh CHHHHHHH....

QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) Why Columbus? They have a fan base. It's a city that has been ACHING for a major league franchise. So much so that they went ahead and built a stadium for major league soccer. The Blue Jackets have/had a fan base believe it or not, because all the folks in Central Ohio were sick of rooting for the folks north and south of them. ok, that still doesnt change the fact I think they should be eliminated

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) I understand your points, but for some people, i think the "lack of faith" was just more of a "lack of overconfidence", and rightly so. 16 points? I think you're nuts, but you can think what you want. haha you can think im nuts I agree with your statement about the lack of faith, but as far as MSU goes I havent been too impressed with them.. and I have a friend thats a MSU fan and he keeps talking s*** and saying MSU by 16 so I have to counter that, and I believe thats what its gonna be.. Last year when they played and Illinois killed them I gave him so much s*** he had to block me mid game on AIM

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) First off, Illini won't win by 16 at MSU Second of all, it was a tossup game in my mind because of the streak, yes...but we've had better teams than Wisky go into Kohl and lose time after time after time. It wasn't a huge lack of faith, it was just the nervousness of not being the huge favorite in a game for once. You think what you want, I think they will win by 16 And yes, lots of people, not saying you, had a HUGE lack of faith.. Wisconsin is not a great team, and just because they play very good at home is no excuse to doubt your team they way some people did.. (Not saying you) Now if we would have been like 15 - 5 and lost to Iowa, I might have been able to feel the same way some people did.. but there wasnt a doubt in my mind that we werent gonna win this game..

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 09:31 AM) Panthers Thrashers Coyotes Sabres Penguins Blues Mighty Ducks these are the teams that should go.... heh...kidding about the Blues.....sort of..... Phoenix Nashville Columbus Florida Buffalo are the teams that I think need to be done away with