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Im not upset about losing Matt Thompson, im upset that our organization that is rebuilding is trading away prospects for low upside situational players. The upside of a prospect clicking and figuring it out is way more valuable to this team than a lefty reliever. I don't care what his name is, I care more about what he could be for this team in the future. Rebuilding teams don't need to be trading prospects for low level middle relief. Its absurd. And if you are of the belief that they are just clearing out guys they don't like or don't think will make it, I have a problem with that as well since the guy now in charge was responsible for developing and bringing those guys up in his previous gig. Not very inspiring to me. We have now traded away two SP prospects and in return have received two low ceiling players. I don't understand the logic.

Hate this one. Yet again the Sox, who are hurting for starting pitchers, trade a young prospect for a marginal return. One platoon outfielder and now a low leverage reliever. In what world is that in the blueprints for a rebuilding team?? This organization is just run by clowns, starting at the very top with Bozo.

We have 6-7 reasonable rotation options in AAA? We don't even have 5 reasonable rotation options on the MLB roster, much less in AAA.

Of course he has.

Its sad that my memory of TA is now of him being one of the worst players in baseball and getting knocked out on the field after trying to be a tough guy.

Seriously, Eloy is a DH who has to run max effort maybe 1-2 times a game. There’s no reason he shouldn’t be playing 150+ if able.

I appreciate the effort in your post, we’re all fans or we wouldn’t be here. That being said, this is easily one of the worst rosters n baseball top to bottom. We also have a manager who openly admits he isn’t playing for development. This is going to be a long season of trash veterans getting way more rope than they should, and the result of that is going to be a very depressing product. I can’t even squint and see a scenario where this team sniffs .500 ball by game 162. It’s not going to happen, because even if they all play over their heads they’re getting traded come mid-end July anyways.

You're way off base here man. If it was just his opinion, then he would have just said he disagreed. You don't put "..............I disagree" if it isn't alluding to something he heard. And anyways, he came back later in the thread after the fact and said the Orioles circled back to Cease the other day. That's a little more than opinion based.

This organization was left in such disarray that I cant really blame Getz for having to do quantity deals to try and at least get some competent baseball players into this system. The MLB team severely under-performed and the cupboard was bare in the minors. The real eye test to me is going to be what he does with Dylan Cease. That's the first real value chip he has to play. I understand what he is doing with what he has to work with today, I care more about what its going to look like when the Hahn stench is rinsed off and now its Getz team.

Absolutely, I just meant the return was fair for a rental player making $15 million.

Especially when you consider he is a 1 year rental and you are paying him 15 million for this one season.

Completely agree, the Seattle trade was great. A loser team has no use for a good reliever outside of trading them. The Arizona trade, that's the type of deal I would have been completely happy with going into 2021 when there was a need for that kind of player to fill a hole on a contending team. For the 2024 White Sox, it makes no sense to me. Especially when you consider we have no major league pitching and need all the bullets we can get since we wont be signing any high priced FA pitchers.

You called Fletcher an All-Star OFer for the next 6+ years. Go away.

The White Sox today have exactly 1 quality starting MLB pitcher and they are trying to trade him. It makes zero sense to me to trade a potential future option for a low ceiling outfielder considering the state of the franchise.

This trade sucks. We have no pitching, why are we trading pitching prospects for mediocre OF talent. Who can say “I’ll trust the Sox judgement on Mena” with a straight face? This organization hasn’t earned the trust of anyone.

Ok I can accept that, thought you were trying to downplay ceases value

Huh? Byrnes is on a 1 year $15 million dollar deal. It’s not that comparable.

The longest playoff appearance drought in the NFL right now is 13 years. (Jets) Its then Broncos (8), Panthers (6), Falcons (6). Every other team in the league is at 3 or less. So outside of 4 teams, everyone in the league is routinely making the playoffs. The longest playoff appearance drought in the MLB right now is 9 years (Tigers & Angels). Its then Pittsburgh (8), Kansas City (8), Colorado (5), and Washington (4). Everyone else is at 3 years or less. I would say they are pretty close to equal in terms of competitive balance if you want to measure by playoff appearances.

I can't even recall going to a game where the roof was open.

This is laughably bad. Last year, the Bears traded the #1 pick for the #9 overall pick, the #61 overall pick, a 2024 1st round pick, a 2025 2nd round pick, and a pretty good WR. This article thinks the Patriots would trade the #3 overall pick for the #9 overall pick, Justin Fields, and a 2025 6th round pick. If Justin Fields was worth the equivalent of a 1st round pick, 2 seconds, and an established good player at a skill position the Bears wouldn't be trading him because they would already have their QB.

Hell, even we got some snow during this thing and im in Houston. Luckily, were back to the 65-70's this week

I don't get it, but im also not a huge basketball fan, how does Doc Rivers keep getting head coaching jobs? This is his 5th head coach job now, doesn't that kind of tell you hes not the guy.

Yeah I saw Balta post that in the minors forum and just shook my head.

I think there is very little chance this team wins 70 games. Is the roster as of today 10 games better than last years team? I don't think so. Yeah, the defense will be better but now were just losing games 6-3 instead of 9-3. And 3 seems generous with the projected lineup at the moment. The starting rotation stinks, the bullpen stinks, the offense stinks. This roster is no better than the 61 win roster of 2023. If Cease is traded before opening day, our entire rotation is filled with question marks. There is not one reliable starter outside of Cease on this roster or in the minors.

I treat this just like I did when there were a handful of people who thought Giolito was going to return a bag of balls at the deadline. You will be proven wrong once Cease is inevitably traded, and you'll be happy about it.