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How do the Sox move forward now that tanking isn't an option?
T R U replied to baseball_gal_aly's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Guys, again, there is 0.0 chance that Giolito is resigned. This is a really bad team, with a really bad farm system. You think they are going to drop $100 million plus on a 29 year old SP right now? He will be traded within the week, and we will be much better for it long term. -
How do the Sox move forward now that tanking isn't an option?
T R U replied to baseball_gal_aly's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Very obviously that was JR for the first 3 items. The calling up a prospect to not use them though, I don't get it. You would assume that's the managers call. -
How do the Sox move forward now that tanking isn't an option?
T R U replied to baseball_gal_aly's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I tend to believe that if signing Giolito to an extension was a realistic option, it would have been done already. -
How do the Sox move forward now that tanking isn't an option?
T R U replied to baseball_gal_aly's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Would have loved to have added Harper and Wheeler to this team. -
My guess is they told him they don't want him anymore.
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How do the Sox move forward now that tanking isn't an option?
T R U replied to baseball_gal_aly's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Ideally, here is what the future looks like as is.. I will also assume we trade Giolito and some bullpen arms for some sort of re-enforcement for next year and beyond. Possibly a trade of TA. The starting pitching is going to be the biggest issue, but assume with Lynn and Clevinger out they take that $30 ish million and use it to bring in two pitchers in the 10-12 million range. A competent front office and coaching staff can probably be competitive in this division next season. Obviously a lot changes happen if guys like Cease and Robert get dealt. C - Need to sign or trade 1B - Andrew Vaughn 2B - Need to sign or trade (Maybe Remillard, Sosa, Gonzalez, Rodriguez?) 3B - Yoan Moncada / Jake Burger SS - Tim Anderson (Stop gap & Colson Montgomery late 2024? if Tim is traded or option declined) LF - Andrew Benintendi CF - Luis Robert RF - Oscar Colas DH - Eloy Jimenez SP - Dylan Cease SP - Michael Kopech SP - Need to sign or trade SP - Need to sign or trade SP - Need to sign or trade -
The other thing about it is generally the only GM jobs available are the least attractive ones. The good ones are already filled with competent people.
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What's really more likely.. The White Sox clean house, and entire new front office is brought in KW retires, Rick Hahn is moved to Executive Vice President, and Chris Getz moves to GM.
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The White Sox job should be a very attractive job. You would get to GM a team that has shown it will spend money to an extent, not necessarily on individual players but as a total payroll. A good GM could do wonders with a $180 million dollar payroll, that's no issue. The rest of the division isn't spending like that, maybe Detroit, but if you think you're a good GM you could run this division no problem year in and out. On the flip side of that, you also would get to build your reputation and if the White Sox refuse to sign the Harper's or Machado's of the world and can't resign their Giolito's or Cease's, then you get to parlay that into a gig with an organization that WILL spend the money when you get tired of being dicked around. Win win if you're an up and coming GM candidate in my opinion. Here's the problem. If the White Sox GM position is going to be open when the season ends, how in the f*** can the current regime be allowed to make trades and decisions for the future of this franchise? If Rick Hahn is out of a job, why is he still in a position to make franchise altering decisions right now? He is still in charge, its frightening, and I lean more to the side of he absolutely will be back as GM next season. What proof is there otherwise that he won't? Does anyone really believe they have internally passed the reigns to KW for the deadline and told Hahn he's going to be out? Why wouldn't you just fire him if that were the case.
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Perfect game honestly. Guys with value looked good AND we lose in embarrassing fashion. I’ll take that all day.
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I don't know, and honestly don't care anymore. Ive accepted it and it is what it is with this team. Ill just watch and hope for the best.
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Might as well just sweep them and keep the false hopes alive for this front office. I don't expect them to do the right thing no matter what happens and next season and beyond seems bleak anyways, so if they can somehow surge up to win this shitty division I guess its better than doing nothing and being in the same situation next season anyway.
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They traded for Moncada, Luis was an international signing
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Nope, but that's just how free agency is. All I know is, there is no front office that hands out the largest contract in franchise history and thinks "If we just get two good years out of him it will be worth it."
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I would venture to guess that a lot of those deals $75+ are longer than 4 years. If I am signing a player in their prime and only for 4 years, I would expect to get more than we got in those 4 years.
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I get that for when you sign people to 7,8,9,10 year deals and you expect the back half of the deal to be rough. At the time, you sign a 31 year old to the largest deal in franchise history and hes negative value after 2 years. That's a little more than just how free agency works.
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Grandal was definitely not worth it. We paid this guy $73 million dollars for 3 WAR over 4 years.
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Well they kind of did that with Robert though
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I think hes 15, Konerko made a comment he coached him from 9U through 14U but now hes going to high school and needs to spread his wings
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I assume thats Konerkos kid
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Who hits the next homer, Benintendi or Anderson. Thats a tough one.
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Please stop telling Beckham hes outstanding at this
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Man this team is so poorly run, I get there are injuries but our bench is currently 2 catchers and 2 first baseman. Like wtf.