RibbieRubarb

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 11, 2007 -> 01:53 PM) So we have the worst offensive team in baseball, and we have no players who made a Top 100 list... Thanks Mr Obvious, you're a lifesaver! I just found this other chart on ESPN called "standings". Can you believe the White Sox aren't in the top part of that, too?!?

I posted this in the other Sopranos thread, but I thought I'd post it here too. It seems appropriate. A wonderful final episode to a landmark series that NEVER settled for standard TV/Mafia cliches...no matter how much the public demanded of it. David Chase created a living, breathing work of art in a medium that is dominated by predictable fare that pushes "ratings" first and "integrity" second. Ultimately , The Sopranos was just that...the story about a family. And the show ended like it begin with the Soprano family eating and unsure about their fate. Life goes on and this series was never shy about it's focus on that sentiment. Chase was never tidy with with all plot points...because life isn't tidy folks. I know many wanted the story to have a clean ending because it brings closure. But if you wee really expecting that, I think you have been watching a different show since 1999. I expected this ending...one chapter closed and the next to begin away from our eyes. As for the abrupt ending? I thought my cable went out too. But I see it as NOTHING to get mad over. Think about it. If the show ended 10 seconds later with Meadow walking in and sitting down then a fade to black...this would have been better? Does this ten seconds make or break the series?!? No...also that kind of ending would give the audience a false sense of security about the Sopranos, that everything would be all right. But, my friends, that is not the case. I know we have invested years with them and have grown to love this family. We want that sense of security. But Chase knows that is not truthful. That would be giftwrapping the entire series in a lie. I think we expect more from this great show. The abrupt ending was just that. Removing any sense of security you have about them. No symbolic nature to it. Their lives with forever be "looking over the shoulder", "denial" and "depression". This is life the enitre family chose. There is no backing out. Tony, Carm, AJ and Meadow are all now involved in it. The ending made you, the audience, feel anxious, nervous and angry. Just like the Sopranos will feel every day from now on. David Chase just welcomed you into the family...finally.

A wonderful final episode to a landmark series that NEVER settled for standard TV/Mafia cliches...no matter how much the public demanded of it. David Chase created a living, breathing work of art in a medium that is dominated by predictable fare that pushes "ratings" first and "integrity" second. Ultimately , The Sopranos was just that...the story about a family. And the show ended like it begin with the Soprano family eating and unsure about their fate. Life goes on and this series was never shy about it's focus on that sentiment. Chase was never tidy with with all plot points...because life isn't tidy folks. I know many wanted the story to have a clean ending because it brings closure. But if you wee really expecting that, I think you have been watching a different show since 1999. I expected this ending...one chapter closed and the next to begin away from our eyes. As for the abrupt ending? I thought my cable went out too. But I see it as NOTHING to get mad over. Think about it. If the show ended 10 seconds later with Meadow walking in and sitting down then a fade to black...this would have been better? Does this ten seconds make or break the series?!? No...also that kind of ending would give the audience a false sense of security about the Sopranos, that everything would be all right. But, my friends, that is not the case. I know we have invested years with them and have grown to love this family. We want that sense of security. But Chase knows that is not truthful. That would be giftwrapping the entire series in a lie. I think we expect more from this great show. The abrupt ending was just that. Removing any sense of security you have about them. No symbolic nature to it. Their lives with forever be "looking over the shoulder", "denial" and "depression". This is life the enitre family chose. There is no backing out. Tony, Carm, AJ and Meadow are all now involved in it. The ending made you, the audience, feel anxious, nervous and angry. Just like the Sopranos will feel every day from now on. David Chase just welcomed you into the family...finally.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 8, 2007 -> 10:30 AM) No wonder players bad mouth the Sox organization when they leave. Even the fans trash the players when they leave. LOL...Seems like this board doesn't wait till after they leave. No matter what they do right or wrong.

It's times like this I wish Frank Thomas was still on the team. He'd have at least 2 hrs off of Mussina, by now.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 08:29 PM) So, from watching Molina, Owens, Sweeney, and Fields so far.....do we teach our prospects to ground out every at-bat? I think its called "making contact"

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 08:26 PM) Nope...we have more pitching depth in the minors than offense, yet we don't draft a single offensive player? The first 3 pitchers we took were fine....the last two were horrible picks. Meanwhile, the Tigers gave themselves a great chance to have an incredible rotation in a few seasons. I do agree with you there. After all the trades Kenny made in the off-season to acquire the young arms, I thought we'd draft some offense.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 08:26 PM) Did you intentionally neglect to read when I said "shaping"? I did not see "shaping" my bad. I'll get ya next time

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 08:22 PM) Shaping up to be another terrible baseball day. Sox lose, Cubs win, Tigers/Indians win....combine that with an average draft, and I'm looking for a positive today. MLB went to 5 inning games?

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 04:27 PM) I am beginning to think Ribbie is incapable of leveling any criticism against the White Sox organization. You speak in absolutes. "If you don't like what the White Sox are doing, you are a bad White Sox fan." Chill out and agree to disagree. Well then you never read my posts. I can be critical of the team. But what I do not stand for is extreme negative assumptions by a few. I prefer a more balanced approach to analyzing a team. Not the fortune-telling methods of some that exclaim the Sox are through and the Tigers will be dominant for years to come whent wo guys haven't thrown one pitch yet. Could our draft pick be a bust...Hell yes. Does he have issues? Yes. He needs a secondary and third pitch that are conisitant. But to call for Kenny firing over this...that extreme and not thought-out. The major misconception on this board that those like me are uncapable of not liking what the Sox do... WRONG. We are able to put our reactionary emotions aside and look at the big picture and analyze what is going on. Every loss doesn't send us to a ledge and every win doesn't send us buying World Series tickets. Take a breath and ease up.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 04:25 PM) No, Ribbie Rubarb is 100% correct, it's the rest of us who are morons. The rest of us need to get a clue, he's the smartest man in the room. It's the burden I live with everyday.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 04:20 PM) Wasting? Who said anything about wasting? WTF are you talking about? Do you bring anything unique to this thread at all? No? Oh, right, all you do is b**** about people who b**** about our GM -- not me -- making you just as bad as those very same people. Christ, get a clue. Pal, I have a clue. I think having a player with a plus fastball with an excellent chance of signing with a good upside is better than wasting a pick so you can get another pick next year...which is your concept. You need a clue.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 04:20 PM) BUT YOU ARENT DEFINITELY LOSING IT. Best case scenario: You sign the best high school pitcher in the draft. Worse case scenario: You can't sign him and you get the same pick the following year. So...it's ok to have NO pick this year to get the same pick next year??? This makes ZERO sense...ZERO.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 04:15 PM) And I don't see any problem with that. At the very least, by taking Porcello you're keeping him out of the hands of two of the better teams in the AL, the Yankees and the Tigers. And hey, if you don't sign him and he goes to play for UNC, you're drafting twice in the top 30 next year to add onto any supplemental picks from Dye, Iguchi and Buehrle. You approve of wasting a first round pick instead of picking the pitcher we got????...and Kenny's the bad GM, eh?

I just hope Jim Leyland tosses his cigarette at him and tells him to shut up and hit the ball hard...we don't pay you to think.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 03:51 PM) 29. Wendell Fairley-San Francisco Crap!!! Why didn't Kenny Williams pick him?!? Fire him!!! (just trying to fit in)

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 03:45 PM) so, i should just pencil in poreda as a bust and porcello as a cy young candidate? got it. Porcello should start getting his bust ready for Cooperstown if I understand correctly.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 03:42 PM) LOLLERZ. Obviously you haven't been reading the last several pages. Specifically, where I said picking a power arm who never produces for the Sox is acceptable if he atleast gives the club a projectable arm. Sometimes the thoughout posts slip in between the biased, reactionary angry ones.

Detroit's not that far of drive. Why don't you all pack up and go root for them. I'm sick of this constant bashing that the White Sox cannot do anything right. It is so extreme it's pathetic.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 03:34 PM) If Minnesota or Detroit picks Smoker, Griffith, Harvey, or Porcello, we may be in trouble for quite a long time. And if we picked Smoker, Griffith, Harvey, or Porcello all of you would have found reasons to blast the White Sox for those picks too. "They'll get hurt" "Wasted pick...we can't develop pitching" "We'll trade them away" "We'll never sign them"

QUOTE(IowaSoxFan @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 03:29 PM) Great another f***ing incosistent college pitcher will little upside. Its time for KW and his staff to go. Not one losing season in his tenure and one world series... This kid hasn't thrown one pitch yet, but you're ready to fire everyone. Smart. Thank God you're not running this organization or you'd be screaming for your own firing!

This just in...When LOST comes back it'll be in sitcom format!

I smell a Lifetime movie in the works... or at the least the first episode of Law & Order this fall.

Whew... I thought the title of the thread said: STEFF says Latino players easier to control. A bit out of character for her.

Is this whats all the fuss is about? A Bruce Willis interview?