RibbieRubarb

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 02:01 PM) This makes you paranoid... What?!? Who said that?!? No it doesn't!! Does it?!? s***!!!

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 02:04 PM) I remember playing in a game, my 2nd ever for this team, so they had no idea who I was or if I had any talent so thats why I was batting 9th. We have a guy on 2nd and 3rd, and for some reason, the firstbaseman is playing way way off the line practically in between 1st and 2nd. I could hear my teammates all saying 'can this guy hit', 'he sucks man', when I got the bright idea to take a late swing and see if I can hit down 1b Line. I did .................... we won the game ........and I thought man is this game Crazy And I bet the next day there was no mention of that in the Tribune, right?

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 01:48 PM) Hey Ribbie.. member that couple standing in front of us that was rude to the boy... Holding a Sox flag and wearing Cubs hats. :rolly QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 01:53 PM) I personally DONT want to hear about Ligue anymore, at least stop linking him with SOX sports section. Ligue attacked a coach DURING A GAME and INSIDE THE STADIUM. Weve been "hearing" about this for years now. Why? Tribune says the same thing, its of "interest" to people, even SOX fans want to hear more. They didnt ask me thats for sure. Every time thats brought up, the SOX look worse for it. Whatever happened to that "fan" at Wrigley a few years ago, ran on field and ATTACKED RANDY MYERS, DURING A GAME, INSIDE THE STADIUM? Myers had to fight the guy off, resulting in a brawl on the mound etc. Why wasnt that brought up ? As Much? As Often? I'll bet nobody even remembers that incident, much less the offenders name? The Trib decided that that particular event Wasnt "news", and was an "isolated incident" and not worthy of being brought up anymore. Its funny to sit in an airport and have someone say "you guys run on the field and attack coaches". Were not the only ones, I tell the person, this happened before at Wrigley and Randy myers. "Yeah right, stop lying" Um..ok...so this one guy didn't remember...um..ok :rolly

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 12:52 PM) YES. One more Cub article over a SOX article is an insult, considering the White Sox had the 2nd best record in the entire 1990's. Its an insult considering that other team, since 1950, has only THREE 90-win seasons, yet since the 1980's, has outright dominated the White Sox in coverage in both newspapers. It is an insult, and you should be offended. The fact you arent is troubling. By ONE more article? I am neither that petty or paranoid. Infrequently?!? There are 3-5 articles every day!! Even more during the past off-season. That is a lie. As for the next part... All you do is count articles. Please show us proof that the Tribune does what you claim concerning the content. If not, don't pass it off as fact. Um, why are bringing this up again? I thought this was, according to you, only about Chicago newspapers. But since you brought it up, is this the same station that has the "White Sox Weekly" show? A pre and post game show after every game? Not enough? A couple hours on a low-listening time like Saturday morning still need to be Sox-only?!? Odd. Please show me your source on this statement. I never read or heard that comment in any paper, radio or TV broadcast. It's a very condeming statement against you if you cannot prove it to be true. Thank you

QUOTE(zach23 @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 11:48 AM) Why don't the Sox just realize that there are some things that need to be done so that ALL fans are happy ALL the time. They just need to do the following: Change all the seats so that they change color depending on the person looking at them. So if someone likes blue or green or red, or whatever else, the seats will read their mind and change to that color just for them. Others looking at them will see the color they like. Charge only what each individual person is willing to pay for admission and personally deliver the tickets to them when it is convienent for them. If someone doesn't want to pay, let them in free and they should be able to sit in the best seat even if there is someone else that wants to sit there. The Sox just have to figure out how to get everyone into the seat they want at all times. Make it so that all seats point in the direction that all people like at all times with no obstructions. The seats must be soft enough for those that like soft and firm enough for those that like firm. Get every player that every fan wants regardless of cost or roster size. If that player then doesn't perform to the satisfaction of any fan anywhere, get rid of him and get better players. The Sox should have a team that always goes 162-0 and wins every World Series. Every fan in the park should see the lineup they want to see even if that means 30 guys must be in the starting lineup. The Sox must simply figure out how to get that to work. Everyone must get to park for free right next to the stadium. Everyone should be allowed to show up 5 minutes before game time and still be able to get in to see the first pitch. There should also be lots of bars and restaurants real close to the park, but there must still be parking lots for everyone as well, and the bars and restaurants must not turn the neighborhood into Wrigleyville. For those that hate bars and restaurants, they must be invisible. For those that walk to the park and hate parking lots, the lots must be invisible and they should be able to see nice houses and trees. The Sox should have every announcer and commentator on earth on the payroll doing their own play-by-play and commentary. The fans can then choose from 1000 different radio stations to hear only the play-by-play and color commentator that they want to hear. Same with TV. Every newspaper must write only about the Sox. Every sports radio station must only talk about the Sox. The stadium must be willing to morph into different stadiums for each fan's taste. If one person likes the old Comiskey better then it should morph into that. If they like the old park but with the new park's concourse, then it should do that. If someone likes seeing the skyline, then the park must rotate so they can. Nobody should wait in any line for anything. Vendors should be able to read everyone's mind and bring them the food they want immediatley. Each fan should have a personal vendor for each type of food and beverage and their own personal restroom. Every type of food and beverage ever created should be available with a vendor to personnaly serve it to each fan. The fans should decide if they want to pay anything or eat and drink for free. If the Sox would just stop being so cheap and address these things then everyone would be happy. POST.OF.THE.YEAR.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 11:35 AM) just got done with the teachings of don juan for the second time (carlos castaneda) i think ill revisit ishmael or the story of b for the first time in 3 years after that im not sure, maybe some vonagut.... slaughter house 55? or maybe brave new world.... ferinhiet 451? sofies world? not sure what im gonna read next... f***, maybe even a .PHP or illustrator book =P Might I suggest: j/k

I think what we are trying to say is that yours is a self-fullfilling prophesy. Your methods insure that the Sox are, in your opinion, ignored. You refuse to view "suburban" papers or national ones. You don't count the fact in the off-season the Sox dominated all media in the city. A story about the White Sox main division rival, the reasoning behind their success and lead in the standings are NOT a Sox story, but an mention of a ex-cub player in another counts. You don't look at column length in words or inches, which is how every newspaper man measures a story. You feel ONE Cub article more than a Sox one is an insult. You facts are skewed and inaccurate. If there are posters who truly want to know how the White Sox are being handled in the media, I suggest they look elsewhere

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 11:32 AM) Well, the first question has yet to be answered, it is the opinion of several here that your method of counting stories is questionable, and now the thread has become personal, in a bad way. I also don't see it getting any better, mainly because you IMO are failing to take the hint that many people are poking holes in your methodology (if not overall purpose), and will continue to do so. Moderators ... I think it's more than time to put this out of its misery. Not my call of course, but this is going nowhere good. No, don't lock this thread. I think the personal attacks will cease. There are many who actually do enjoy this "media watch". But I want to make sure they understand that if they are at all concerned with the attention the Sox are getting in the local media, they should get the facts in an accurate and fair way or from a reliable source. There is nothing personal in what we are asking...it's just business. /cue Godfather music

QUOTE(JimH @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 10:51 AM) Calling them front page headlines is misleading and you know it. It is now time for you to answer SS2K5's questions. CUT THE CRAP. They are posted by RibbieRhubarb for your convenience on page 20. I think he is ignoring me...

Here, again, are the two posts we are waiting for your responses on, Hangar. Please don't reference your posts on WSI as proof. We would like answers to these specific questions. Thank you

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 09:13 AM) Lack of sleep last night... should be a fun day around here today. Please, please, please

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QUOTE(beautox @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 03:03 AM) this is the second tombstone reference i've heard in two days. That movie is so good. Wheres Wyatt? ...down by the creek walkin on water. You die first, get it? Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I make your head into a canoe.

Here are the two posts we are waiting for your responses on, Hangar.

QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 09:30 AM) I thought it was just OK. There were no memorable lines like in episodes past. f*** James Woods!!

Let's win another series, boys. It all starts with game 1!

QUOTE(sin city sox fan @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 01:23 PM) I'm all for giving BA a chance to succeed.....I've supported him quite a bit on here and am not ready to run him out of town (as many people have suggested). However, if time shows that he needs more seasoning in AAA, Duffy could be a more adequate replacement than any other options currently available (I don't like Mack or Ozuna in CF as I think we need something better there defensively). I don't even know if Chris Duffy is that solid defensively (maybe thats why he lost his job early in the year?)....however, I just thought it might be a cheap alternative to keep an eye on if a move needs to be made. Making a change just to "make a change" is not always a good idea.

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 01:04 PM) I READ THAT ARTICLE!!!! The article indeed states that the Chicago Fire wanted BLUE seats because BLUE doesnt appear as empty on TV. This topic on the other site would get dozens banned for talking about blue seats/attendance. Dude, you got issues

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 12:18 PM) I remember someone from the Tribune, whom I wont name, saying the very same things. Said my Media Watches were biased themselves, the numbers prove nothing, the numbers could be wrong (despite my challenging them to check out my numbers-Got No Reply), im just jealous of the Tribune, Trib doesnt strong-arm anyone, Trib doesnt support the Cubs (despite reports of Andy McPhail and Jim Hendry Cussing Out and Verbally Abusing Trib Reporter Paul Sullivan) Trib is a legitimate news source, Why is everyone else enamored with the Cubs then, Southtown is Pro-Sox why arent you mentioning them, Why arent you including small newspapers like the Bridgeport News or the Jonesville Gazette those papers have as much "influence". I laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed. Was this "someone" 6' tall and named Harvey?

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 11:46 AM) Thats WHY its called the Chicago NewsMedia Watch. Not the Suburban NewsMedia Watch. Those papers cater to the suburbs of Chicago. the Tribune Entertainment Corporation has much more CLOUT than the 3 papers combined. This is the CHICAGO newsmedia watch. Not the NATIONAL NEWSMEDIA WATCH. Now you're concerned with details... Funny.

I was able the see it early in it's initial run in 2004 at the Shubert Theatre with Hank Azaria, David Hyde-Pirece and Tim Curry. It's a wonderful show, crisp and funny. Since I saw the show early in its conception, I saw two musical numbers/scenes that have been cut from show since that time. One was called "Burn Her!", which was a 20s style dance number during the Witch trial scene. Very funny, it inclused digs at the show "Wicked" Another was right before the cow launching. The castle turned around and the actress who playes the Lady of the Lake came out dressed as the cow and sang a French-style ballad called "Adieu" . A side note, My college buddy Jeff played Patsy in the current tour that you just saw.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 11:14 AM) Here we go again... Hangar had a huge thread on WSI about the seats change. He is convinced the team dragged its feet, despite the fact that people showed him threads about temperatures for setting chemicals, etc. Now we'll end up with the same discussion here. That's why I sort of avoided that topic in my response. Did you know the Tribune Company owns all the grean seats in the midwest?!? Conspiracy...

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 10:42 AM) He was a hitting coach and a 1B coach in our organization about 10 years ago. Papa Jack! Ron Jackson QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) Didn't the Sox want to trade for his kid???? Michael? He already has his one glove.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 08:56 PM) If he was more than a mediocre coach, the 80's Bears win 3 Super Bowls, but that's a different argument. Dude, you really need to start doing some research and checking facts before you keep making these blanket statements. :headshake

Sometimes green is not needed, Guys. This is obviously a joke...