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QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 20, 2006 -> 02:15 PM) Yup, I'm just wondering how this can really be considered something like hell. Tony's hanging between life and death, and in the dream he's waiting for some resolution, which both seem a lot more like purgatory. But there are some interesting similarities, definitely. What you mentioned...the opening line of Inferno, 'In the middle of life's journey' (or something like that), and Tony's insistence, 'I'm only 46!'...and the idea that this show, with the tension between Italian and American identity, would throw together Tom Petty and Dante isn't surprising. It'll be interesting to see if there's anyone 'guiding' Tony in some sense. Btw, what does Junior yell when he shoots Tony (from the first episode)? It does seem like a combination of Dante's Hell and Purgatory. I strongly believe it is a form of purgatory. But there are elements of Dante's Hell, also. BTW The first episode of the season was called "Member's only"... This one is called "Join the Club" Also, outside the literary references, I enjoyed AJ yelling "Poor You!" at Meadow. It seems Livia's presence is never too far from the Soprano household.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 20, 2006 -> 01:40 PM) Nice. 9 circles in Dante's hell, though. Edit: Okay, but, 7 levels of Purgatory. Wikipedia tells me they go 1. Pride, 2. Envy, 3. Wrath, 4. Sloth, 5. Avarice, 6. Gluttony, 7. Lust. I've never read Purgatorio, so any good Dante-ists want to weigh in? You're right 9 circles. But the 7th circle is still for the violent, like Tony.

This episode had A LOT going on in it, so bear with me as I try to express what I noticed: Tony is in purgatory. He was literally in the "Hotel California" He was without an identity and unable to leave. The hotel he can check into was the "Omni"...meaning ALL. While he is stuck in that hotel, on one end of town is a shining beacon (Heaven), on the other, a raging forest fire (Hell). Now let's dig WAAAY deeper into symbolism: He is also apparently in the military contractor business, so it can be argued that he's still involved with death and murder. Also, he is still capable of cheating on his wife. I think the writers are showing the point that in the end, sin is sin, and once you get to the end it doesn't matter if you make your decisions in a boardroom or the back of a stripclub. I guess it's some social commentary. In Dante Inferno, it is said there are 7 layers or circles of Hell that Dante traveled through to get to paradise. Tony was placed on the 7th floor(or circle)... the circle for those who are violent He's sinking further and further into the depths. Trying to get back by taking the stairs and leaving the 7th floor (circle, soul) He fell down the stairs between the 5th and 4th floor. The 5th circle is wrath and 4th is greed Also, if you recall the first episode opened with William Burroughs spoken word recording "Seven Souls" From the Seven Souls...Number five is Ka, the Double, most closely associated with the subject. The 1st circle is limbo and from there he can escape, when he stop acepting his fate and fights back and finds his breifcase. His double who took his breifcase, or as Tony out it "My whole LIFE is in there" That guy's name was Kevin Finnerty, to which the man at the bar jokes "Kev-Infinity" By the way Kevin Finnerty is a heating salesman from the hottest state, Arizona. No need to go further there. Arizona is also on the Driver's License as AZ or a-z, the beginning to the end. Dante's divine comedy is divided into three parts, corresponding with Dante's three journeys: Inferno, or "Hell"; Purgatorio, or "Purgatory"; and Paradiso, or "Paradise." Consider that Tony is now in the second of the three journeys -- his life on earth has been Dante's hell and all it is comprised of (the seven circles of hell: Circle One, Those in limbo; Circle Two - The lustful; Circle Three, The gluttonous; Circle Four - The hoarders; Circle Five - The wrathful; Circle Six - The heretics Circle Seven - The violent), he is now in purgatory, and is making his final journey to Paradiso. On Easter Sunday, Dante emerges from Hell. Through his travels, he has found his way to God and is able, once more, to look upon the stars. Perhaps this is Tony's path. Sunday April 16?

QUOTE(samclemens @ Mar 16, 2006 -> 10:38 PM) as well as her pimp. seriously, isnt that bastard supposed to be a minister? and he also pimps out his other daughter ashley. both her and jessica are shameless because of their father. He's always commenting on the size of their breasts...it is rather creepy.

This is sad. I loved this show as a kid. He was a great host and personality. Even the reruns on GSN are still suspenseful and addictive. RIP Peter... http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=..._celeb_eo/18559

Holy Crap! SS2K5 has over 10,000 posts already on talkbears.com!!!

SPOILER WARNING!! First, I thought last night was awesome!! Moving on to Tony... (My post is in white, so you have to highlight it to read it. I don't want to spoil anything for everyone) The rest of this season will not be a dream from his coma. But the next episode might be. From what I heard, Tony will survive (though I don't think will surprise anyone) but the coma allows the writers one episode to explore Tony's mind from the inside. Supposedly, an episode will focus on Tony's family if he never got involved in the mob and was a regular businessman. This, of course, will be a dream but it gives the writers an opportuniy to explore an emotional avenue of Tony we've never seen before now. If this may seem odd, please remember "The Sopranos" is famous for it's depictions of the dreams and visions that haunt it's main characters. Also, in future episodes Christopher is looking to get back into the movie biz. Ben Kingsley will be playing himself (maybe in the same episode) and... MAJOR LEAGUE SPOILER!!!! Phil Leotardo will whack someone from Tony's crew...we are talking a MAJOR character. (could be Silvio, Paulie or Chris)

Everyone knows that Maria Sharapova, Trojans and Soxtalk go together, too! Go to page 11 to find these gems:

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Mar 9, 2006 -> 08:22 PM) Working on some stuff so I've pulled it done. Rule #1: Never go out on a date with a "loaded gun"! Good Move!

I know Daniel Craig has his detractors, but I will not make judgement until I see the movie. But what I've seen so far...I like! And I am as big of a Bond fan there is...really. I'm a Bond geek. Casino Royale footage

I still say Morgan Freeman was the WORST President in history. He sent Robert Duvall to blow up the meteor and not Bruce Willis!!

OH NO...Look out Willxyz!!

Evergreen by Barbara Streisand?

SNL does it again... Be careful or she'll kill your dog! http://youtube.com/watch?v=tQ7bJQGlfJY

QUOTE(G&T @ Mar 2, 2006 -> 10:04 PM) The last ten minutes is the best part, IMO. But I'll let you watch. I know I know...Rosebud is a sled.

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 2, 2006 -> 04:29 PM) :finger Superfuzz and with that...I am outa here!

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 2, 2006 -> 04:26 PM) :finger Ghost World :finger

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 2, 2006 -> 04:23 PM) OK... next. The Green Mile

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 2, 2006 -> 04:21 PM) LMAO.. incorrect. I forgot to post my real guess and edited my comment... But Sleepy beat me to it.

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 2, 2006 -> 03:43 PM) Ding, ding, ding.. Next.. Easy one... "For Screening Purposes Only" You left the title up...duh. :rolly Seriously...is it Pleasantville?

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 2, 2006 -> 04:22 AM) Nope. It's a pretty popular book adaptation. Bridges of Madison County.

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 04:11 PM) Copland Great flick. Next one:

QUOTE(knightni @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 04:10 PM) The royal tennenbaums

QUOTE(Steff @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 01:57 PM) Adventures of Ford Fairlane In honor of Gilbert being on Howard today? Awww...you are so sentimental.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 1, 2006 -> 07:38 AM) even if by some miracle of God this were true... The first crack at VP would come from an internal canditate. If we have learned nothing about the Bush admin, they always promote from within. That being said, I would bet Condi Rice would be their choice. Bush gets to make his history, and he puts in someone who is on the same page as him. win-win. NO...that's just what they'd be expecting us to do..