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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:30 AM) Here's the other question though...we basically have no idea how old Contreras really is. We know that in Cuba, for years, he'd spend games throwing 150+ pitches every time out. We think he's in his late 30's, and he might even be pushing into his 40's. How much of an extension do we want to give a guy like that? a 1 or 2 year extension, at 5-6M per. I agree about his age, but he just seemed to get stronger in the late innings this season. The guy is a work horse.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:13 AM) In other news, Southsider is expected to post tomorrow.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:28 AM) Also, don't discount the El Duque/Don Cooper factor. I think the best thing that happened to Contreras, besides getting out of NY, was Cooper as the pitching coach and El Duque in his ear. PLUS, having a lot of Hispanics on the team, including the manager. I bet a lot of teams have noticed that. Not saying he hasn't put it all together, but if I'm a GM, I would be weary of taking him away from the White Sox situation. This is exactly why you DO NOT trade Contreras, sign him to an extension. This is a guy from a VERY meager background who loves Chicago, gave him a ring, and loves the organization. If there were ever a prime opportunity for a nice discount, it's Count. I really get the impression that he likes stability. Even though he was largely ineffective in NY, he was very upset to be traded. He'll take less to avoid the trouble of changing teams and atmospheres.

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I don't have figures to back this up, but hear me out... The LARGE majority of individuals making minimum wage are people under the age of 18 just dipping their toes into the job market. They are not reliant upon minimum wage to survive. I think I can spot minimum wage jobs when I'm out, just look for the jobs that require no skill whatsoever beside the ability to show up at work. These jobs, atleast in my experience, are nearly ALWAYS filled by young teenagers. In addition, individuals who are hired at minimum wage often do not stay at minimum wage after their 3-6 month probation period. Stick with a job and you shall receive greater pay.

I wouldn't rule the sCrUBS out of making the series, despite all their deficiencies. The NL, as a whole, is really weak, imo. Especially with STL and HOU getting older, there really isn't a powerhouse team in that league. MIL will be much better, PHI will be a force, and then ATL will be good enough to go somewhere. The NL West is a f***ing joke from top to bottom.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 31, 2005 -> 05:56 AM) Maybe the Braves want to learn from us how to actually get it done in the postseason. Kidding. But I was thinking the other day: Isn't it nice when a Chicago team finally makes the finals that the team gets the job done? The Bulls never lost a championship series if I'm not mistaken. Each of their titles came without losing a Finals first. Same with the Sox. Finally got to the World Series and completed the deal. None of this happy to be there, learn from it and try to get em next time around. I'm glad we got it done with no regrets. I hear ya man, that would be some heartache to lose in the WS. Seeing the Houston rally on Sportscenter really made me realize how much that would suck. I mean sure, you made it to the series which signifies a good season, but s***, ya didn't get it done. Not much to really celebrate.

QUOTE(BFirebird @ Oct 28, 2005 -> 08:27 AM) Just because of the staff alone. If the Sox can find a way to sign PK they could be looking at some very good years and some GREAT battles with the Indians. If PK doesn't turn out to be an option I trust KW to come up with a good plan though. It will just be tougher without the rock in the middle of the lineup. Unless that rock is from the rockies, ala Todd Helton

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We can thank the internet for the opportunity to bring so many Sox fans, from all over the world, together into one place. We've been through thick and thin together, as die-hards. Now, tonight, the team we've spent so much time and energy on, are WORLD MOTHERf***ING CHAMPIONS!!!! This is a special evening, and knowing that i can jump online with my Soxtalk brethren, my motherf***ing WHITE SOX DIEHARD BRETHREN, is truly an honor.

no way in hell he scores on that double, hesitation or no hesitation. This guy is just painting that outside slider, yet the Sox seem surprised everytime he pitches it. f***ing gotta adjust.

Some Newcastle to get me through til the Korbel bubbley i'll be popping open after the game.

Good decision to tag, imo. That ball should have been caught and would have been caught by 95% of left fielders.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Oct 24, 2005 -> 05:27 AM) Did he even throw one hammer tonight? He only threw one in Game 1 but it struck the guy out. Is he too nervous to throw it for fear of hanging it? I think the one in the dirt was a hook, showed 89 on the gun.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 24, 2005 -> 05:22 AM) Now here's a conversation. He looked like s*** tonight. Bad location, speed down 4-5 mph from last night. Last night was all adenaline. Tonight, he was tight and nervous. I agree, he HAS to mix in his breaking ball. But the thing is, I think he's pretty much trusting AJ to get him through the hitters. We'll see Jenks one more time I think - because he'll have a couple of days to recover. But I'll be shocked if we see him in back to back situations again in this series. Agreed, he needs to bring out that NASTY hook more often. Last night he spoke about not wanting to go to the offspeed stuff because the pitches weren't breaking properly in the pen. He threw the one hook after getting in the game and it was perfectly located and broke what looked to be about 14". I think that speed gun was off tonight. Buerhle never went above like 89, nor did Pettitte. Cliff was clocked at 91 or so. The only guy that looked accurate was Lidge at 95-97, but I could swear he could reach 98 consistently.

Every one of the Astros coaches/players that gets asked about Rocket just acts dumb as if they didn't even know he was hurt. When Buck asked the pitching coach about him tonight, it looked like the coach took a deep breath and strarted the spin cycle. Something about "i haven't spoke with anyone about Roger's medical condition today". Your game 1 starter goes out with a bad hammy, he's scheduled to pitch game 5, you're his pitching coach which means you'd probably get tagged for some input for a contingency plan for game 5 if he can't go, and yet you "didn't talk to anyone today"? Give me a break. Rocket is done. They're trying to hide his condition from the Sox so that they don't know who to prepare for in game 5. HUGE advantage pale hose!

QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Oct 24, 2005 -> 03:22 AM) Unless we can figure out Lidge - which will not be easy - our bullpen better have a few innings in them. El Duque should start warming up now. This is what all that rest was for. agreed on el duque

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Oct 24, 2005 -> 02:25 AM) We can talk about some poor ABs by our guys, but this loss should really go on Buehrle. Any game where a team has to score 5 runs off Pettitte and the Astros bullpen is going to be a tough one. That's ridiculous. Berkman would have never been in the box without a abulls*** infield hit.

I don't understand why Oz took off the bunt. I was wondering why the f*** Garner did it with Everett in the top half, and then f***ing Oz does it, after seeing the failure of Everett. Stupid move...gotta get one there.

This was a tough situation for Kenny, and I think he made the right decision in holding out on contract talks. First off, if you pay him earlier in the year, especially with a big contract, you'd rob your team of the famous "year of free agency" performance. So we go through the season, see we're getting to the playoff early on in the season, you still can't pay him because you need him to have that same drive in the postseason. KW's decisions have been right in this regard. Paulie may not like. His father may not like it. So be it, Paulie's in a world series that he may not have been in had he signed a big contract earlier in the season.

If the Sox happen to win the WS next week, Frank has no other goal in his career but to reach 500hrs. He needs 52 more to get there, or roughly two years worth of service left to reach 500. I don't know if Frank will stick it out if he has a ring on his finger. If he does, I don't think he'll look at it as a financially lucrative endeavor and settle for a very small contract. I don't see any relevance whatsoever between Frank and Paulie. Money regarding Frank won't be an issue, JR will do what's necessary to keep Frank in Chicago if he wants to reach that 500hr plateau.

Where's the "Get A Life" at? You want to talk about comedies ahead of their time....

I had the phone and computer going. Fast busy at the Atlanta office and the computer locked up at the security check. My brother saw his tkts but then locked up and got nothing on the phone. My sister had 2 tickets that timed out online. And my Dad tried phone and internet with no luck. The two seats my sister had were in 557 which I happened to look on Ebay. $1500+ for two seats in 554 nosebleed. f*** that. I'm probably still going to head up that way to the bars being they should be full of Sox faithful.

Are tickets ONLY available through phone/internet or are ticketmaster outlets selling tickets as well?

Ozzie's enormous ego will prevent him from retiring.