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QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Feb 22, 2009 -> 12:18 PM) You also forget Poster C, who says everytime Crede's name is mentioned "I wish the Sox would go and sign Crede"(Crede can be switched with Rowand at any time), which is also an additional irritant to the Poster A and B argument true. Also I should add that Poster B usually says he is ok with fans having a different opinion, but never actually shows this via actions and has a hissy fit every time someone says something that's not positive. Poster A's urge to argue is amplified every time he reads a post from Poster B, he tries to let it lie but can't help himself.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Feb 22, 2009 -> 12:00 PM) I am always troubled by some of the outright hostility and negativity though. There is none. Really. There isn't. Seriously. It always comes back to this: Poster A says something to the effect of "Fields can be better" or "it's time for the Sox to let Crede go" or "I think Crede is overvalued by some because of x, y, and z." Poster B takes personal offense to this. Poster A is forced, again, to explain that he actually likes Crede, respects Crede for his contributions to 2005, or both. This is usually not good enough for Poster B who does not let the argument go even though Poster A was trying to highlight a simple difference opinion. This back-and-forth continues indefinitely, which brings us to this current thread. Which I'm going to attempt to stop reading and posting in.

I really don't know how the hell he's going to do it, but if he does, I'll be impressed. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090222/ap_on_...wh/obama_budget

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 05:02 PM) you guys see the new bailout? the mortgage one? another trillion down the drain. this administration has been a complete disaster so far. I think that's coming out of TARP funds.

There's a pretty big difference between calling a white person a chimp and a black person a chimp and to pretend otherwise for the sake of trying to make a point is disingenuous. That said, I did have a friend jumping off the ledge and flipping out talking about the NYP was making subtle references to assassinating President Obama and I had to try and talk her down. I think that's kind of absurd to claim if you think about it enough.

I bought my house at market value, have a decent job, always make my mortgages on time without much difficulty, but I'm basically stuck in this house for several years now. I really doubt if I can sell it, and even if I could, it's worth like $40k less than when I bought it. And s***, I WISH I was buying a house now - I wouldn't have a problem securing a loan since I could use VA financing - because my payment would be several hundred less than it is now. Not that my monthly payment is hurting me (or else I would have had no business in the house) but who couldn't use an extra 500 or 600 per month? It's not just people who made dumb personal decisions that are getting shafted by the housing bubble (to say nothing of the people who are losing their jobs and losing their homes as a by-product of all this).

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Feb 21, 2009 -> 04:32 PM) We don't have the best looking team out there guys, cough, Alexei Ramirez, cough. But Clayton Richard and Lance Broadway totally make up for that. Don't forget Brian Anderson... I took my stepdaughter to a game last year and there was a woman there with a "Sexy Lexi" shirt on, but my stepdaughter was like "you know, he's really not sexy." lol.

Colon's always been a fatty. I'm not concerned, there's other reasons to be. It's fun to laugh about though.

The White House shot that idea down FWIW.

Today at work I overheard a co-worker talking about how she doesn't believe in global warming (which is fine, I don't have a problem with people questioning whether global warming is man-made if they know what they're talking about), but then she said the earth is cooling. lol, that is just going too far for me. She might as well have said there is no such thing as a greenhouse gas. Basically, if you're going to deny "global warming" or "climate change" at least know what the actual question is (whether the activities of man are having a significant impact on the environment or whether it's happening on its own).

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 03:15 PM) Also, I bet mr_genius didn't think his thread would go this far off axis. It's not that far outside of the original sphere is it?

QUOTE (Texsox @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 02:54 PM) That segment would be Dems and Reps. Basically everyone who actually clicked on the link had something to be offended about. We could go in circles with this.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) Quit being obtuse. I think he's pretty acutely aware of what's going on.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 02:26 PM) Awww, rats. Keyes is a flaming idiot. There's no denying that. lol. It's something everybody can agree on.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 02:04 PM) cool! just to be clear, is it "Vee-see-AY-doh"? Yes edit: I don't know if the accent on his first name is the first or second syllable though. It might be Die-YON.

DIE-on Vee-cee-AY-doh edit: I know the question was for Cubano but Spanish is Spanish.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 01:33 PM) So you just admitted Obama is a socialist? Yes! lol, not really. I just wish people like Keyes could at least separate the two things in their mind. It really isn't that difficult a concept. Next up, actually knowing what socialism is. That one's a little more to ask for.

I want to kill myself after reading this thread.

QUOTE (mreye @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 01:06 PM) I think you miss the point. The thread is intended to create a rise out of a certain segment of Soxtalk. My point is we wouldn't (and shouldn't) allow someone to do the same with black, Jews, etc. I was demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. Actually, if I remember the argument from the other thread correctly, he was mostly making fun of Balta.

I love it when people don't know the difference between Communism and socialism.

QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Feb 20, 2009 -> 03:49 AM) She got lucky she found the kind of Mexicans who can laugh at that kind of stuff. She got lucky that's all she knew how to say, too. What's worse is all her friends spoke Spanish and they didn't tell her what she said until 2 days later.

QUOTE (Chet Lemon @ Feb 19, 2009 -> 11:56 PM) The only monster here is Barack Obama, the same Barack Obama who wants to have the Iranian government over for tea. Carter was the same as Obama. Ronald Reagan would have stood tall against those bastards! After he closes GTMO he's going to give all the terrorists there full pardons, then put them up in government housing and give them food stamps and other handouts.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 19, 2009 -> 06:09 PM) I revisted this controversy (within my thoughts) during a particularly boring and lengthy meeting at work today. I decided to flip-flop on the cartoon being published, and here is why: When I read the cartoon I immediately saw "congress does the work that a trained chimp could". This is because of the words "write a stimulus bill" and I know congress wrote the bill. However, I think it must be assumed that the majority of people who would see the cartoon have no idea who wrote the stimulus bill and probably just assume that is was Obama. Now, with such a view, that would certainly make the cartoon excessively offensive. For me to understand this I decided to place the words "Next time they'll have to find someone else to sign the bill" in the word bubble being said by the officer. Of course, in this context, the cartoon is blatantly racist. The Post should not have published; even though, admittedly, I would have missed the potential mix up as well. But I'm not a newspaper editor and thats not my job, someone should have recognized a potential issue. All this being said, I'm sure there will be some opportunists (looking at you Sharpton and MSM) who will go on one of their "everone is racist except me" crusades because of this. Oh well. That's the view I'm thinking about that people would find offensive. Me personally, I looked at the cartoon, and I didn't even completely get the joke (the trained chimp) until you just explained it. I saw a monkey and the first thought was Obama, but right away I thought "the New York Post would not publish a blatantly racist article so the joke has to be something else" and I didn't even see the connection. I figure Chimp + Congress = ? It just wasn't very obvious. Which is reason enough for the editorial staff to at least do a double take, or not act like theyre completely blindsided.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Feb 19, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) ^^^^^ Konerko might well be the slowest player I've ever seen, though I never saw "El Guapo" Garces run. "Ground ball to short, it's booted into shallow left.. Oh my!! The left fielder and short stop have collided and are rolling around in pain ....The third baseman is retrieving the ball.. Long THROOOWWWW! And Konerko's out at first by three steps!!! Thome, JD, AJ, and Crede in hospital traction can all run circles around Paulie.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 19, 2009 -> 01:15 PM) Heh I come across people like that person routinely, where if I just sit and explain simple logic to counter their wildly distorted view of realit, it just has zero effect. It's like they're brainwashed. I've come to find that, with only a few exceptions, people who rant about "socialists" and "government handouts" and say things like "I work for a living" have no idea what they're talking about whatsoever. And unfortunately there's a lot of them out there.