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https://twitter.com/jon_greenberg/status/760840374533427200 lmaooooo I severely underestimated how much of a b**** Martellus Bennett was. Soooo much salt but he was singing high praises of Cutler when he was producing the first two years. The tape on him in the 3rd year doesn't lie. He half-assed his blocks and got beat by guys he should've dominated and quit on his routes... I tried to defend him for weeks longer than he deserved but the truth is he didn't produce last year because he didn't want to.

Interesting that Trump only thinks the election could be rigged if he loses.

goodness, this thread is trash. I don't know why I keep clicking on it. At least Y2HH broke up the monotony.

a) Nobody actually WANTS to get a Purple Heart. b) Seriously, WTF?

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) No I get that, that's obviously a huuuuge problem of his, but he's also (despite the things he says) a somewhat intelligent human being. You would think someone can connect the dots for him: you keep saying and doing these things, you're losing any shot you have at the Presidency. If you can, try to find video of him doing interviews in the 90s. There's a major difference in how he speaks, responds, answers questions coherently. Everything down to his vocabulary and sentence structure. He was a pathological narcissist back then too, but it's like a completely different person. Either he's doing an act, or he is showing signs of early onset dementia.

If you ever get into an argument with your mom, even if she's wrong and you're just reacting to something she did, people will take the side of your mom and assume you started it. I've noticed this happening with a lot of different people.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) He has, but not endorsing the candidate from your party and openly endorsing the candidate from the other party are two very, very different things. FWIW Hanna is retiring after this term and doesn't have to care about reelection chances. In Trump news: That's the second time in recent memory CNN has done that, calling a very blatant lie what it is

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 10:14 AM) I can't believe he doesn't have an advisor (or someone like Ivanka or one of his sons) screaming at him hourly that people are purposefully baiting him and to just shut up. Yet he keeps getting hooked. The guy was in the best spot of his campaign right after the RNC and he's ruined any small shot that he had. It's just amazing to watch the train wreck. He probably does, but they probably know him as well as anyone and know it's futile.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 09:51 AM) GOP Rep. Richard Hanna: I'll vote for Clinton; first House member to cross party line Wonder if people like Mark Kirk, struggling to keep their seats in pretty solidly blue states, will follow a similar path. Kirk hasn't gone as far as to endorse Hillary, but he has been pretty emphatic about distancing himself from Trump.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 06:04 PM) Also your follow-up on how she is not anti-vaxx doesn't really seem to be holding up. But also her fleshed out response there about how we shouldn't trust government agencies like the CDC and others because they are just Big Business shills is so maddening. Oh, and your platform is to increase reach of gov't that we can't trust because it is controlled by elites? Makes sense. Good platform. I guess the CDC is doing too good of a job keeping everyone from getting Ebola?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 05:18 PM) Oh the Goldwater movement itself was definitely fueled by the Bircher racist crowds, I guess I'm speaking more of the man's personal politics than specifically that campaign. Maybe I'm giving the man who credibly got the "Daisy" ad deployed against him and ran "in your heart, you know he's right" billboards too much credit, though. Yeah I don't think Goldwater himself was racist necessarily (although I honestly don't know enough to say) but he was DEFINITELY firmly on the side of white supremacists that year. That's the year Jackie Robinson changed his party ID, and one of the big reasons black voters who used to be a solid Republican voting bloc started voting Democrat.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 05:06 PM) It's true that losing a trade or not doing a trade are the only two things that we can expect from our front office. If they have a coherent plan I have no idea what the f*** it is and I'm not sure they would either.

People are upset the Sox didn't make a move, but if they had, they'd be justifiably getting blasted for doing a lopsided deal that wasn't in their favor.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 04:46 PM) How far would you have to go back to find a GOP nominee worse than Donald Trump? You have to go back to pre-desegregation days and those were Democrats, but even then they had a clue in terms of policy and whatnot and weren't con artists. I guess the only thing close is Goldwater in '64 though. They had "I'm a Republican but I'm voting Democrat because Goldwater terrifies me" ads

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 11:47 AM) This really should be the nail in the coffin for the base of the Republican party supporting him. You don't mess with the military/dead soldiers. This goes back to what I was just saying - Trump's supporters really don't care. You can see in their communities on the internet they've already made up a "he's actually a Muslim terrorist infiltrator" smear and have made themselves believe it. I noticed this really was a thing when Trump dissed John McCain. Normally, we would've been writing the political obituary of anyone who said that within 24 hours, no matter who they were, but then you read what Trump supporters were saying, and they were agreeing with him, calling McCain a loser, etc. Trump later said "Bush didn't keep us safe" and "the Iraq War was a disaster" which is straight-up Republican apostasy (the Democratic equivalent is probably saying something like "racism is a myth, I wish black people would stop complaining). Republicans tried to go after him on this, it barely left a mark, his numbers just went higher. There is a ceiling for this type of stuff in the general election though and he's already reached it, and to the extent he actually has a strategy, it's to keep Hillary from scoring more points on him, which is why he's already trying to weasel his way out of the debates without looking like a coward.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 1, 2016 -> 10:19 AM) So much of Trump's aura is being exposed as lies and bluster, he's just never been called on his bulls*** like this before. I think my favorite example was him inventing a Civil War battle that allegedly occurred on one of his golf courses. The larger problem is that people simply don't care. Trump is immune to fact-checking. Even if he's busted red-handed on the spot making a huge ass lie about something that's a big deal, his supporters will just go "but Hillary" and waste time with false equivalences.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) She also literally could not stop a man from donating to a PAC supporting her. That is why a constitutional amendment is required. Remember when Trump was self funding his campaign but it turns out he is too poor to? That's the whole point, but people can't see the forest for the trees.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) NC's Voter ID law was struck down by a federal court today. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/feder...-provision.html There is a part in that ruling where they say "the legislators missed the forest for the trees." If Clinton wins this ruling will be permanent.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 04:05 PM) Tea party was poor phrasing, I more accurately meant to say that he ran during the tea party time and misread that group as especially hard line conservative bordering on libertarian, but were really just angry voters. I think lost does a good job with his analysis, but its worth remembering that Mitt's entire campaign he basically refuted everything he did as a governor of massachusetts and even as a businessman. He was basically just running on policy, a policy that was favoring the hard right congress wave of 2010. I think that's accurate and then he couldn't actually run on his record, it was weird.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) Stuff like this is why we never get anywhere on some of the more controversial stuff in the country these days. No one wants to have an honest and intellectual conversation about race. The topic of slavery comes up, and people lose their minds. I don't know why it is such a bad thing to say something like we have come a long way, but we still have work to do, without it either being racist, apologist, or argumentative. Slavery is one of those topics like the Holocaust where we have to be able to objectively talk about it because it's such a HUGE part of history that directly affects the present. Then again I'm kind of a history nerd and so are you.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 03:39 PM) Yeah...I don't think Mitt ran a teaparty campaign. The amateur political strategist in me says Romney campaigned hard right to fight off his challengers in the Republican primary, but while he was doing that, Obama's allies successfully made a caricature of him as Gordon Gekko-style cartoon villain that carried into the general election. Romney tried to pivot in the general election but pretty much stuck with him until the first debate where Obama was off his game and blew it, voters saw Romney presenting himself as a moderate conservative, but Obama rebounded after that and never looked back.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) I got the same thing out of it (and I am on the right). Yeah, I guess I didn't mean "everyone" on the right lol. I mean the people in the media who were complaining about it.

I knew that Bloomberg's roasting of Trump would sting Trump the most. Bloomberg is a real billionaire, a legitimate businessman, and his wealth dwarfs Trump's, Trump really can't handle shots at his ego like that. http://www.vox.com/2016/7/29/12324696/dona...l-bloomberg-dnc Then Trump went on a tweetstorm after Hillary said he could be baited by a tweet, which created a singularity.

I will admit to not liking Hillary's voice but when Trump starts screaming into the mic she sounds like Martin Luther King to me.

The last two Democratic presidents have been some of the most charismatic orators this country has ever had (i'll include Reagan in that category too). There is really nobody who ran on either side who's like that. Hillary isn't one of those and Trump CERTAINLY isn't with his 5th grade vocabulary.