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QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 10:12 PM) He's attractive at first because what he says makes sense in theory, but we've seen what happens when zero regulation of business and isolationist (which is really what his policies were) foreign policies are used and it's not good. Pretty much, he basically wanted to go back to the Articles of Confederation level of federal government... umm, no.

QUOTE (YahtzeeSox @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 05:40 PM) If you've been a Ron Paul supporter, I'm surprised you're even settling for the mediocre choices we are given. Personally, I'm much more interested in what Ron Paul is doing nowadays rather than who wins a silly presidential election. McCain or Obama, we're screwed either way. Their campaigns will spend millions trying to convince you otherwise, but I've wised up to that BS. Believe it or not, I started this election campaign on the Ron Paul bandwagon, but once I learned more about him I jumped off. I admire his interpretation of the Constitution and commitment to small government, but listening to his supporters you'd think he was categorically better than every modern candidate we've ever had, but realistically the dude is stuck in the year 1895 and probably a good 3/4 of what he says is completely unrealistic, even moreso than Obama's soaring utopian rhetoric. He's just as "mediocre" as anybody else.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) Frankly, I don't care if he tied McCain to Lumbaugh. After McCain won the primary and during the primary, he catered to every gripe that Lumbaugh had about him. So in that way, i think they very much are tied. Lumbaugh has a huge audience, McCain needs them. I don't care either, but it was a pretty dishonest ad.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 02:42 PM) Am I the only one that has the Super Mario Bros song in my head whenever Joe the Plumber is mentioned? Well, I do now. Thanks a lot.

I know what he was thinking too, but god damn, what a bad choice of words that was.

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 01:55 PM) People keep saying this, but apart from the one immigration ad, I haven't seen one Obama ad that wasn't the complete truth about McCain, negative or not. The one where he tied McCain to Rush Limbaugh and misrepresented his stance on immigration.

Yeah, WTF was McCain thinking when he said that? Like "oh, yeah, the mother's "health." Right."

I don't think that has much, if any, relevance to the question I asked about why you're expecting objectivity out of Olbermann. But to answer your question, it's pretty much moot anyway, the AP article even said the claims were unsubstantiated and only came from media reports. I didn't see the ABC report but it was probably attributed to the AP report which would mean the same thing. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBA...EMPLATE=DEFAULT If there's news like this, it gets reported. I find it hard to believe that if someone yelled (or was believed to have yelled) "kill him" at an Obama or Biden rally and the Secret Service stepped in, that it wouldn't also be reported.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 12:30 PM) I'd be more comfortable with Joe the Plumber in office than Sarah Palin. At least he's clearing pipes, not laying them down. Somewhere in this post is an inappropriate joke.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 11:25 AM) Well at least Joe the Plumber is a celebrity now. As for last night, I thought McCain did well unfortunately, especially on the economy, which ain't his strong suit. He was outpointed on Health Care though I thought. He may have clawed back the gap a little though, so I don't think this thing is over by any means yet. At least not until the next Palin Gaffe. Why's it unfortunate? Well, I guess if you're an Obama supporter. I don't really consider that unfortunate though. JMO.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 11:58 AM) Obama may be a rock star, but Sarah Palin is a bresh of freath air. She is more a breath of the air I breathe when the guy sitting next to me rips one.

Murtha just seems like he doesn't care. edit: he put out an apology today, I guess someone explained to him how dumb it was to say

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 11:12 AM) Did you miss ABC NEWS and the AP in the story? And do you think they will retract or correct for the record? You specifically said "Toolbermann."

Seriously, why are you expecting objectivity from Olbermann?

Rock Star Obama

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 08:47 AM) So if McCain wins is that how he's going to conduct himself in front of world leaders he doesn't agree with? Smirking, rolling his eyes, etc. Not very presidential. I really think McCain has better sense than that. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter that much, it's not like it's going to have a significant effect on foreign relations.

Didn't A-Rod hit something like .286 with a HR in last year's playoffs? That's not eye-popping or anything but it's hardly terrible either. But I remember it only took about 6 hitless ABs before the media frenzy reached a fever pitch even though "Captain Clutch" Jeter wasn't doing s*** and was calmly grounding into DPs at the same time. A-Rod didn't suck with the Mariners in the playoffs either IIRC, it wasn't until he got to New York. A-Rod's "struggles" in the playoffs are a partially true, but ridiculously overblown media narrative.

I got hammered in Buckhead once and I have vague memories of pissing in a White Hen/7-11 parking lot - no, not behind a car or against a wall, but like right there in the open, the funny thing is that people could see me but nobody seemed to care. Evidently I wasn't the first one to do that. Then like 10 minutes later I laid down next to the curb and took a short nap b/c my friends were taking too long. I only woke up cuz a cop asked me what the hell I was doing there.

IMO the reason the "socialist" point is not going to stick with the American public on Nov. 4th is because Republicans have gradually worn the word "socialist" out (that specific word in particular), and it just lost its effectiveness. Because conservatives have been pretty Chicken Little-ish about pretty much anything that isn't total textbook free market policy or anything involving the government over the years (again, IMO), it sounds hollow to too many people for it to really resonate.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 04:31 PM) Sure, he's a tallish, strong WR, but he drops tons of passes. He's only had one 1000 yard season in 5 seasons, including 1 or 2 years of less then 700 yards. What has he done to prove he's good? So does Terrell Owens. Even Jerry Rice dropped a lot of passes. If you get thrown to a lot, you're gonna drop some passes. But the rest of this is addressed by the fact that he played for the Lions.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 12:00 AM) Thats important. Barack basically explained his ideals of socialism when that happened, it surprises me that nobody sees the significance of Obamas answer. Realistically, the only people that are going to care are the people that already care. So his "spread the wealth around" comment is alarming to conservatives for a couple of different reasons, but really they already think Democrats are socialists to begin with, so what's it matter? People either believe progressive taxation is fair, or they don't.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 11:12 PM) But, it doesn't matter what we think. I was going to post this.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 05:52 PM) Giuliani is straight out of 1984. Remember, a year ago today he was ahead. Seriously. And watching his campaign go down in miserable flames was epic, I smiled every day when I read the coverage.

Oh, Palin said that too. Yes, let's mock the document that contains the principles our country was founded on.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 05:36 PM) Guiliani's line at the GOP convention was not only hypocritical, but deeply disturbing that people cheered for it. What line? I don't pay any attention whatsoever to Giuliani. Remember though his "freedom is about authority" speech... lol