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QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 02:12 PM) yea I hear ya but still hard to discredit anything this kid has done since stepping into the big shoes as the Favre heir apparent Yet still, it's been 2 games... let's accelerate the hype train at a reasonable pace here. At some point this season he's going to hit a wall like all QBs do.

Greg Olsen sucks horribly today.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 01:57 PM) well, in defense, he had a very good game against the vikings too who are currently shutting out the colts and the god-send himself peyton manning I'm just saying, Rex Grossman plays amazing against the Lions because they are one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) Outside of a couple of false starts, the O-Line has been good against a good Carolina D-Line. Not sure what Tait has done wrong today. Olsen? Soft? BS. Horrible fumble as I felt the Bears were gonna score on that drive, but he isn't soft. I am pleasantly surprised at the apparent non-s***tiness of this offensive line.

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 01:54 PM) AROD is off to a ridiculous start to this season thru the first 1.5 games 32 of 39 383 yards 4 TD 0 INT Brett Favre who? Not hating on the guy because I found myself defending him against Favre's fanboys all offseason, but it's the Lions.

Man that guy was awesome. What was hilarious is the Iraqi army seemed to genuinely have no clue that he was full of s*** when 3rd ID got there because they didn't know any better, and actually believed him when he said there were no Americans anywhere in Baghdad.

I'd like to add that whenever the Sox come to Baltimore and the attention is on Harold for whatever reason, he always draws applause. He's every bit as much a fan favorite here as he is in Chicago.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 12, 2008 -> 07:12 PM) I didn't see that question. I think FOX showed portions of the interview each day this week as to capitalize on the big ratings for an Obama / O'Reilly interview. I must have missed the day they showed to portion of the interview where Obama gets asked about Ayers. I only saw portions of it. From the parts I saw, O'Reilly was tough, but the questions he was asking were fair. Obama seemed to handle himself pretty well.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 12, 2008 -> 07:05 PM) I saw the Obama interview with Bill O'reilly ( Obama did a great job in that interview) and he said he will give out a very detailed plan as to how to become energy independent. So I would be very interested to see the real numbers. I don't want an abstract 'some solar panels' type of answer. I would be very interested to see the research funding he plans to spend. What was Obama's response when O'Reilly asked him about Ayers? I meant to watch but I had something else to do.

I'm going to cop out here and say I honestly don't know. I think Obama has the inside track still despite his dip in the polls recently, but that doesn't mean he'll win. I have to think that Palin's luster among independents is going to fade some between now and the election though.

Me tuning into the Palin speech had nothing whatsoever to do with the media coverage of her. I didn't know a single solitary thing about her, and I wanted to find out, hoping her speech would give me some insight. I didn't bother watching the rest of the RNC, except for part of Fred Thompson's speech until I started falling asleep, and I was going to watch McCain's speech but I figured there was nothing for me to learn from it that I couldn't find out by watching highlights later that night and not to mention I don't even know if it's possible for me to watch McCain talk for 50 minutes.

I'm prohibited from making donations to political campaigns because I'm a federal contractor.

She still took a bunch of earmark money didn't she? Money that was given to her for the project? I mean, this is the kind of thing that can be spun endlessly in circles.

Also I was supposed to fly on September 13 that day but the FAA still didn't allow any flights until the 14, and I ended up flying out of Phoenix. But I had a b**** of a time getting from Phoenix to Atlanta to Chicago because all the flights would get delayed/canceled because the flight attendants and pilots were quitting.

Last night I watched MSNBC's re-airing footage from that morning. Watching the whole day unfold reminded me eerily of exactly everything I was thinking back then, it was almost like a total recall of everything (except I was watching CNN that morning and not MSNBC). At the time I was in my last week of training in the Army and I was about to ship off to my first duty station in 2 days, and the first plane hit as we were outside finishing cool-down stretches from PT. My drill sergeant came out and said "a plane just crashed into the World Trade Center." There was a collective WTF from everybody while we were going back inside but I don't think anybody really thought anything of it (my exact words were what kind of f***ing dumbass manages to crash into the WTC?), then when I got in I heard that another plane hit. So now I knew something was wrong and I sat down in front of TV - at this point whatever plans my unit had for the rest of the day would be scrapped. I sit in the day room and watch the towers smoking and then I hear about the Pentagon getting hit, and now I'm thinking wow, this isn't just a terrorist attack, it's a full-blown act of war. I was wondering who did it, I wanted somebody to be pissed at but I was confused. I was sitting thinking about getting all those people out of a burning skyscraper (and has a skyscraper ever burned like this before?) for a while, and I thought optimistically, that's a lot of damage, but I guess it can be fixed right? But as I said that the first tower started to collapse and now I thought ok, nevermind that, because I just saw several thousand people die, live on TV. Then I started talking to my friend, and I wondered how much time the people in the other tower had left, because its collapse was inevitable. Then it started coming down and I just sat there staring at the screen, frozen in disbelief. I was literally having a hard time believing what I was seeing, I was just dumbfounded thinking "holy f***ing s***." They said that another hijacked plane was headed towards DC and that there were fighter jets in the air, and I thought great, shoot that down, the collateral damage here isn't an issue, and if I was on that plane I'd find that completely acceptable since the alternative is dying in a successful terrorist attack. After about noon, most of what I was thinking about was wanting to go overseas right then and there so I could start killing people (that never happened).

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 11, 2008 -> 09:23 PM) So when he says "You said ABC.". She said 'I don't believe that's what i said", and he says" Exact quote". It wasn't an exact quote. So, maybe super-intellectual Biden has a complete recall memory, but most people don't, regardless of what position they are runing for. There is no excuse for him to not have had the exact quote, unless he was either purposly trying to make it sound bad, or he was getting his info from the AP story that also truncated what she said. I think she still answered it ok, but the question itself was just wrong. Going by the standards put forth on here by ahb and others, Gibson was lying! Honest question - if this argument were about Obama getting the question and giving the answer Palin gave, what would your reaction be? This is politics, it's routine, like I said the same kind of "gotcha" questions are asked of Obama and McCain all the time. The question was already out there prior to the interview and Gibson put it up there for her to explain (along with other, more substantive questions). She did, and I accept her answer at face value. I just don't see the big deal here.

So the National Weather Service, when you paraphrase, is saying "get the f*** out of Houston, seriously, if you stay you're going to die."

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 11, 2008 -> 09:15 PM) Keep your blinders on to the words i wrote, that's fine. Do you deny that he misstated what she actually said there? He asked her a question and she gave what appears to be a satisfactory answer. Obama and McCain get it all the time in every interview. Seems plenty fair to me.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 11, 2008 -> 08:08 PM) I think there's a lot of manufactured outrage over this interview already. I've seen bits and pieces. What I've seen, she doesn't look particularly good. I don't think she looked egregiously bad either. She didn't threaten war against Russia. She didn't rule it out, either... but it was kind of a wikipedia answer to the situation. Most big-league politicians would've fouled that changeup off.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 11, 2008 -> 07:45 PM) My wife is due to give birth any day now and let me say... I feared our child being born on September 11th. He / She would never fully understand, but when he / she tells an adult his or her birthday, I know the FIRST thing that will enter their mind is the twin towers. My nephew's birthday is on September 11. In 2001 he was pretty young, but old enough to know that his birthday was f***ed up that day.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 11, 2008 -> 06:25 PM) I admit that I was up every 9/11 wondering what nut has decided that he wants to make his mark today by doing something stupid. And I end each one thankfull that the answer (so far) was 'none'. Al-Qaida doesn't really work like that... they aren't really as concerned with dates as some people think they are, they do things when they're ready, and when they'll have the maximum effect. Whenever that might be. That effect won't happen if they know we're paying attention.

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 11, 2008 -> 06:16 PM) I'm not here to drag politics into it; (and no one else in this thread better either ) but, the remembrance of the lost and, of the event itself, seems very muted this year. I think that happens to all things over time, doesn't matter what it is. I wonder how long it took before Dec. 7th only got a passing mention every year? I would guess a few years after WWII ended. Now it's a scrolling headline at the bottom of the news screen, or a small headline in a paper somewhere. If I had to guess, 9-11 would have the same status in the year 2060 as Dec. 7 does today.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 11, 2008 -> 06:13 PM) No, thats one topic that I dont really touch. I just think however if youre running for president you should answer questions even if SOME people may not like the answer. The question came to "In your opinion when does life begin?" Considering the nature of where they were I think its a question that should be answered. My point was that its hypocritical to criticize McCain for not answering a question when Obama does the same thing. Obama didn't completely evade that question, he at least gave a substantive answer on his views on abortion which is better than just punting.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 11, 2008 -> 06:07 PM) So you're saying that the Iraq war will grow nicely on a tree because of our military presences around the world? I'm saying that there has been no formal end to a state-on-state conflict in Iraq nor will there probably ever be. The situation in Iraq is completely different.

Nobody from this generation has forgotten, and nobody will, either. It's impossible. When people say "people act like they've forgotten" it's actually thinly veiled way of saying "these people don't support Policy X, which I happen to support which really means they are not willing to do what it takes to prevent 9-11 from happening again, so now I am telling you that I haven't forgotten about 9-11 as a subtle reminder that I am a better American than you." The politicization and exploitation of 9-11 makes me sick.