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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 11:02 AM) Even though McCain adviser Rick Davis called Americans a bunch of whiners I'm a bit baffled that the GOP spent an inordinate amount of time at the convention whining about the media. How exactly is that going to help them? Didn't work too well for Mrs Clinton. it's been a GOP rallying cry for as long as I can remember (I'm 26).

QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 10:59 AM) He can't lift them more than that... I think literally he can't, doesn't he have some kind of lingering shoulder injury from his time at the Hanoi Hilton?

I dunno, McCain has a s***-ton of cash after the convention now.

I accidentally deleted the first thread because I am a tool.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 10:58 AM) His two largest applause lines were Sarah Palin and POW. That's all anyone needs to know. He couldn't even excite his own fans. The excitement factor is mitigated by the now-legendary Sarah Palin. But rallying the base isn't what McCain's good at, he has other strengths and is playing off of those.

QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 10:48 AM) I have to say, I liked the message of McCain's speech last night, well most of it anyway. I tried to look past the fact he is not the greatest orator. I saw a lot of similarities to the Obama speech. The whole change & hope bit and a few lines seemed really similar. (This is the party of Lincoln, Roosevelt, Reagan...) The other thing I liked is that this was the polar opposite of everyone else's speech at the convention. I respect McCain for doing that, but it would've come across as more genuine to me if they didn't let the dogs loose (Giuliani) the day before.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 10:45 AM) Belittling smaller states and cities? Sounds just like Rove (pre-Palin, of course!)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1lCMH8rlHE I can't see Youtube at work but is this the Daily Show?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 10:39 AM) They totally demeaned and put down the entire state of Alaska and all civic and elected officials in small towns across the USA. They basically said if you aren't in a big office, or in a big state, you aren't important. Having run for an small elected office, and being from a small state, it was pretty insulting to me. Its the same flyover mentality that the Dems have had for a long time. It was because there were people who were honestly trying to pass that off as "executive experience" that is somehow relevant to national politics, at the same time, they skip over Obama's 6 years as a state legislator as if it never even happened. So bringing up the population of Wasilla is a counter to that.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:23 AM) Maybe the mayors of small towns should get together in their outrage and send Obama a letter! Manufactured outrage. CO's are important. They do not make you ready to be C in C. I believe it's fair to say the same thing about a small town mayor though. Which is what the Dems have been doing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 09:07 AM) I am glad that didn't need green. It was a little too obvious. I could see comparing her to the effect Obama's had on the Dems (although it's just one speech and Obama's been around for a while now), but Reagan? Wow.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:55 AM) Yes you are. That's horrible.

Am I wrong to scoff at the people who are comparing Palin to Reagan?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 08:40 AM) Good. I'm all for the Republicans re-defining themselves and I hope McCain succeeds here even if he doesn't win. If there was more Huckabee-esque positiveness without the crazy-ass social conservatism, and if there weren't so many hawks squawking about, I'd probably be a registered Republican.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 07:39 AM) Wow - now I'm really curious to see this. I didn't watch the speech b/c I don't think I could stay awake for 50 minutes of a McCain speech, but I saw highlights. He more or less listed all the reasons people are pissed off at the Republicans recently (except, say, the war and Guantanamo Bay) and when you look at them closely, they weren't "Republican" failures so much as "Bush" failures. But he never actually mentioned Bush's name directly.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 07:37 AM) I watched it and got sick of hearing the names Bush and McCain. It was very disappointing. Like I said, I had the same problem with the Palin speech. He didn't really mention their names that much except to draw contrasts.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 5, 2008 -> 07:32 AM) I will probably be alone when I say this, but I thought John McCain made the speech of a lifetime last night. He did exactly what he had to do last night. It was a very positive speech, unlike Obama's who spent most of the night attacking Bush and McCain, and unlike Palin, who spent most of her speech taking pot-shots at Obama. McCain actually sounded like the guy I wanted to vote for in 2000, by moving back to the middle of the road, instead of the right wing conservative crap he has spewed to try to lock down the right wing. I also really liked that unlike Obama, he was willing to stand up and critisize his own party, and their failures economically and in Washington. He also did a very good job of leaving all of the religious overtones to a very small minimum, and largely out of the speech. He actually won my vote yesterday instead of being the guy who was the guy I could hold my nose for. The stand up and fight charge at the end was the best inspiration since Bush on the rubble pile. Bravo. I was watching someone last night saying how this was a divorcing of the Republican party from Bush.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 4, 2008 -> 12:36 AM) I said that the left winger bloggers would be like moths to a flame on this speech, and gee, I Was right. I predict that by approximately 8:30 am the sky will be lighter than it is now. At 8:31 I will pat myself on the back for being right.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 4, 2008 -> 12:36 AM) I watched one of the smartest people in computer security give a speech and just was in shock at how horrible it was. I have met the man personally and have talked to him, brilliant person horrible horrible public speaker. Was he awkward socially?

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:27 PM) Some people can give speeches. I have seen subject matter experts who have written books get up in front of a crowd and just fail to deliver. They shut down. There are people who have no problem getting in front of people and there are others who cant. For me its an adrenaline rush. The only thing I had to learn early in doing it was to control was my tempo. I would jump out quickly. Once I learned to pace myself, I got a lot better. I don't like public speaking at all, don't get me wrong. And I'm not the best public speaker aside from the inflection of my voice. But to me the hard part is the start, and it's all mental. Once I establish a rhythm I don't care about the rest of the speech, at no point during me speaking can I ever see myself going "holy s*** I'm talking to 1.5 million people everybody can see me omg" ...but I could understand how that happens to people.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 10:46 PM) I have had to speak in front of groups at different times. The only one I felt good about was one where i was so hung over from the night before that I couldn't see past the first row. Glad I could still see my notes, though. otherwise, more than 20 people I broke out in a big sweat. Don't think I could have stood on that stage at all. NOW I am off to bed. As long as I know my subject matter the size of the group I'm speaking in front of doesn't matter. It's speaking in front of people, period. I've given speeches for as few as about 5 people and as many as 1000 or so. I don't really notice... I'm aware that there are people, but I'm not worried about how many b/c I'm thinking about my words, not the audience. So I guess theoretically I could get on TV and speak in front of a couple million people, and I won't feel it then... I'd feel it LATER when I was watching myself on a recording though.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:54 PM) Yeah, but you had to know that was going to happen. It's how the system works. Also, on a side note, I bet somebody picks up on the community organizing mocking by Palin and calls it racist. I don't think it actually was, but community organizers are VERY VERY important especially in less wealthy communities, and you know where I'm going with this. That accusation kind of makes itself. It's mostly ignorance than anything else.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:53 PM) I doubt the authenticity of this. I'll withhold judgment until it's proven legit. I thought it was an interesting read. We'll see. This is different from all the "omg her daughter is pregnant" bulls*** from the last few days. Some of this fits into what's been said about her. Most of it's new.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:52 PM) I have to ask this...are community organizers usually associated with black neighborhoods? This is the first thing that my brother and I thought of, and after viewing Roland Martin's comments tonight, I have a feeling this is going to become a bigger issue. You could make a generalization like that and be safe, yeah. More like poor neighborhoods but the bulk of poor neighborhoods in cities is black.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:48 PM) The guy on msnbc just said that people are saying that this might not play well with the middle, because she may have come off a little too sarcastic. It really looked like he wanted to say b****y. QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:49 PM) I almost said it, but stopped myself. My wife said it. lol. She was defending her from all the bulls*** media attacks until about 40 minutes ago.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 3, 2008 -> 11:49 PM) They are VERY important but I don't think community organizing does much to get you ready to be president. I didn't really like her mocking community organizers to be honest, but I think her point was that doesn't do anything to qualify you to be president, and I think that point is valid. They just kinda skipped over him being a state senator though and act like he was a community organizer, and only that, before he got elected to the US senate. It's become routine.