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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 20, 2008 -> 04:34 PM) Yes, we have covered that. Kinda like Jack Parkman. Crede almost loses his hat. When I was in HS I was the captain of my team, there was a guy that did something like that, I just told him to keep throwing inside on him and if he hit him, all the better, and not to tell the coach I told him to do that Most times when young guys do it they're trying to show off, I wanted him to be shown that his fundamentals were awful.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 20, 2008 -> 04:32 PM) His change-up was really bad. I see.

Does anybody else watch Aviles waving his bat around at home plate and just hope he gets HBP or something? God that's annoying.

Just tuning in here and apparently Danks had his first s***ty outing in a while. What went wrong?

It's hard to explain. There's more teams now so there are less pitchers to go around. When you do manage to find a solid pitcher they end up having double digit salaries because they're so valuable. Then you don't want them to get hurt since not only are you paying so much, but you can't find another one easily. So in the end, you have pitchers who otherwise wouldn't be in the majors 30 years ago pitching a lot of innings because there are more rotation spots to fill around the league, and these guys have weaker arms, and they get hurt. I'm not sure if I explained that too well, somebody like Kalapse could explain it better.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 20, 2008 -> 12:14 AM) This is by no means a slam at Linebrink, but wow, pitchers today have so many problems. Are we ever gonna see a 300 winner again aside from some possible old guy close to 300 now? I say no way. I'm not implying Linebrink would win 300 as he's a reliever. It's amazing all the arm problems and pitchers like Zito hitting the brick wall. Hope he can keep the arm strength all season. In a nutshell, pitching talent is more diluted than it was 30-odd years ago and that's more or less the source of it all.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 19, 2008 -> 05:15 PM) This year's line still has some gapping holes even if Chris Williams can step it up from the first game. Add to that what looks like a bad WR, bad QB (but which bad QB will get the job?!), and very questionable running game, and you're left with a pretty bad offense still. There really is only one gaping hole on the offensive line and that is at LG. Garza is a league average player who isn't as bad as some fans make him out to be. Williams is a question mark but only because he's a rookie. Dumping Fred Miller was addition by subtraction.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2008 -> 04:50 PM) That trade would be epically brutal. It would be worse than the Bonser-Liriano-Nathan trade for AJ. Actually would probably be one of the worst deals in sports history, along the lines of Herschel Walker.

When Crede is hot, you don't see or hear people ripping on him. It applies to every player who has a lot of haters, could be Crede, Vazquez, Anderson. The only exception is Uribe and then to an extent Anderson. When people have good overall numbers (800+ OPS or higher than 100 OPS+), they aren't taken for granted. Case in point: you just used the words "come alive."

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 19, 2008 -> 03:36 PM) It'd be nice to come out swinging again tonight and find some holes against Meche, just as the Sox did vs. Greinke. 6-run first ftw hopefully.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 19, 2008 -> 03:38 PM) Sometimes fans tend to take for granted their own. Those aren't bad numbers. Somebody's going to pay Joe a lot of money next year. Nobody is taking Joe Crede for granted especially lately, except for the beginning of the season when some took it overboard. I don't know where you're getting this from. There are a good number of fans who don't think Joe will be playing for the Sox next year but that's not the same thing.

I highly doubt a withdrawal from Iraq is going to be possible in 16 months to be honest.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 19, 2008 -> 12:35 PM) They had fantastic field position all last year and were still god awful. It's all about the O-line. Last year's was just plain bad, among the worst in the league.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 19, 2008 -> 12:28 AM) As far as we know from that quote I posted, nobody asked him a question, maybe he just came out and said it. You can believe in your team without saying you're going to the Super Bowl. Instead, you can say something like "I think we have a group of talented guy, our defense is great, and I think we can prove the critics wrong". lol yeah he just walked up to a reporter and grabbed his recorder and said that, or randomly blurted it out during an interview. Okay. If a professional athlete isn't thinking about the championship, something is wrong with him. Cedric Benson probably wasn't and seemed to be focused on his bank account. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. I don't care if it's Jon Kitna (although it's the Lions) or Donte Whitner (who said something similar).

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 09:02 PM) First off, you can believe in a team, but don't make predictions like this. If Chad Johnson would have come out and said something like this everyone would be ripping on him. lol what's he supposed to say in response to a question like that? "Nah we're not that good, I think we're an 8-8 team at best" It trips me out when people laugh at NFL players who say they believe in their teammates and that their team is good.

QUOTE (feistyboy @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 11:08 PM) I would hope the players are always confident in themselves and their teammates. I dont think they have a prayer in hell of even making the playoffs this year personally. With Grossman or Orton at QB it is pretty much impossible anyway. I know, I totally agree, it's not like it's ever been done with either of them at QB.

QUOTE (IamPabloOzuna @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 08:27 PM) i do it all the time from the northwest suburbs and its very efficient... You're coming from the north which means you don't pass 35th street to go downtown, then turn around and come back.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 06:22 PM) Living out of state, it would not be as hard on me. If I still lived inside the city, I would have to take a looong vacation. Sox fans who never lived inside the city or surrounding areas will never fully understand the whole sox/cubs thing. My brother was telling me after the Cubs sweep, that week was unbearable with all the people in his face talking all that hot s***, but the next week after the Sox sweep they were nowhere to be found, and he had to track down some people because they were avoiding him. lol.

The funny thing is, as kyyle said, that argument was already over before it was re-ignited.

Vick is actually at Leavenworth. However, I believe that once there is a near-consensus on a person that they aren't "rated" as high as they originally were, they can no longer be called overrated. Vick falls into that category IMO.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 02:15 PM) Who has he asked? I'll be honest, I don't remember it being talked about. Usually a person asks one of the admins, and then we discuss it as a group, and decide that way. If he wants to drop me a line, feel free. We'll talk as a group about it. I don't know if he did or not, that's just what he told me. I'll let him know he should e-mail you guys. He's my boy and all but he's really kind of schizo and it's hard to tell what's going on in his head, but he's otherwise a really good poster and I wish he'd post here.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 12:33 PM) He's not the same person that used to get into trouble all of the time. He has grown up a lot since those days. On the last thing, we are a pretty easy going bunch. We don't have a bunch of silly rules that we get off in enforcing. If people ask to come back here, and actually indicate that they want to change whatever got them banned in the first place, usually we give people the chance to try posting here again. Beastly isn't the first or last person in that situation. Duke Nuke Em has indicated to me on several occasions he wants to come back but he hasn't been allowed to. Then again I know him fairly well and that might not be completely accurate, he's a little full of s*** sometimes.

This is just comical now.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 18, 2008 -> 01:38 PM) Stepping down while they run. I'd actually have more respect for someone if they acknowledged that, hey, if I can't do my current job and run for President, then maybe I should choose one or the other. That would be a decision with a little courage behind it. I don't think that's practical though. If you lose the election then you also lose the lower office you held by default, since you stepped down. Unless you're talking about temporarily delegating authority, but that's really a whole other subject that they'd probably need to pass new laws to account for.

What, then, is a realistic alternative to "failure" for someone running for higher office?