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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 08:04 PM) The media just played the ads, they didn't say any of it was true. Oh well, hopefully baby Alex will be safe from the evil kidnapping John McCain. Kerry can come out and stab McCain in the back again too, "yes, John McCain steals little babies and sends them to Iraq. He must be stopped". Or maybe General Betrayus will chime in and defend John McSame. ah yes, good old politics. lol, that MoveOn ad is so stupid. It's an insult to our intelligence, and I wonder if it even works?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 08:21 PM) Enough death penalty cases have come before the SCOTUS in recent years that they could have stopped it completely if there was a majority in favor of it. They're relying on their interpretation of where the American Public is currently at in making their judgements, which seems to be one of those things the Court does. My problem with this ruling is that they didn't say where the line would be, it just seems completely arbitrary (even though they cited all the states' laws)

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 08:05 PM) Is there any reason to have GOP and Dem only threads anymore? Half of the posts are snark. lol. No offense but that's pretty hypocritical.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 09:14 PM) The death penalty can not be reversed once imposed. People make mistakes. Juries are made of people. If we allow killing someone as punishment, then how could we say that any other punishment is cruel and unusual? Killing citizens is not a power I want a government to have. IMO that is another argument entirely... ...which probably was a factor in the SCOTUS's decision is too (I don't know what the 5 justices' stances on the death penalty are, though)

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 09:13 PM) He's going to wish he got the death penalty once the inside finds out what he's in for. Which is the irony here.

I think regardless of how you feel about child rapists (obviously the only ones that actually care about them are the child rapists themselves) I think the real question, assuming you're pro-death penalty (which I am), is what crimes exactly qualify for the death penalty in America?

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 03:17 PM) Why would anyone in his district, with kids, vote to re-elect this guy? It seems like he committed political suicide to me. The only reason I can think why someone would want to vote for him is if they wanted a Democrat (pretty weak reason to vote for someone but that's how it is) but if another Democrat knows what they're doing they'd contest him so they can run against the Republican candidate and not this guy.

Honestly does his party affiliation even matter? What he said is pretty appalling and the Republican whatshername pretty much said it all IMO, basically nobody agrees with what he said. Unless somebody is interested in using this as part of some ad hominem argument I don't see the relevance.

lol, somehow both of our posts got doubled at the same time.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 01:55 PM) The smart thing to do, IMO, is to remove the SS cap, and at the same time, put a permanent stop on borrowing SS funds for other purposes. Glenn Beck was saying something similar to this a few weeks ago. Everybody keeps passing the buck from administration to administration and if we don't do something about it, it's going to eventually slap us all in the face.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 01:55 PM) The smart thing to do, IMO, is to remove the SS cap, and at the same time, put a permanent stop on borrowing SS funds for other purposes. Glenn Beck was saying something similar to this a few weeks ago. Everybody keeps passing the buck from administration to administration and if we don't do something about it, it's going to eventually slap us all in the face.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jun 24, 2008 -> 10:57 PM) I love that the golden solution to all our problems is to get "a fast guy who can manufacture runs". A speedster is great and all, but if he hits .230 with an OBP of .299, what the hell is the point? All you do is add a couple extra SB to the stat line and lose any potential HR's. That is a textbook straw man - not a single person on this board, or hopefully in the entire fanbase actually wants that. A "fast guy who can manufacture runs" is ideally a prototypical leadoff hitter who makes good contact, a high average and OBP, and is someone who can get into scoring position often and won't get held up at 3rd on a double like half our hitters seem to do.

Seriously, I'm hoping that Obama's not-so-slick backing out of public financing torpedoes the current public financing system so that they have to do it all over again, and hopefully get it right.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 09:12 AM) When we got Dye he had a pretty proven record of slow starts and heating up in summer. With us he's been more consistent but knowing that when we signed him I haven't been too worried of a Dye slow start. (even though I don't feel he had that poor of a start this year) Slow start? The first week or 2 of the season he stormed out of the gate, his timing was thrown off with his minor injury but he got it back. Now, it's not like 2006, but it's close.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 08:38 AM) Right after Murtha's comments, I believe. Right. I always thought it was silly for people to expect the Democrats to "change course" on the war... or whatever. That's virtually impossible, it would be like jumping in the driver's seat of a car to replace a driver when a car is going 70 mph towards a cliff 50 feet away, and expecting to stop it or reverse course. The GOP-led Congress had already set the course. What was going to change was how the gov't conducted itself from then on, and I'm not sure if most people notice, but Bush is no longer walking around like he's some invincible badass anymore. Even still... the Democratic party lacked and apparently still continues to lack backbone.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 08:29 AM) Wrong. There's always been vacillation on Iraq, with the tacit acknowledgment that even a Democratic Congress could not in good conscience simply abandon the country to chaos. An implicit precondition of leaving Iraq has always been relative stability. As long as the commander-in-chief (not a Democrat) is unable to achieve that goal, Congress obviously has it's hands tied. If you believed there was a Democratic consensus that we will pull out yesterday, no matter the consequences, that's your misreading. I recall the GOP started a "put your money where your mouth is" vote for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, which was intended to be a blatant misrepresentation of what the Democrats were trying to do so they could make a point. Nobody voted in favor of it, obviously.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jun 25, 2008 -> 08:21 AM) And that's about where I am. I am conservative when it comes to fiscal policy and the war. Socially, I want the bats*** crazy Republicans to stay out of my life and others (i.e. stay out of the marriage debates). I find the far right repulsive, which is partly why I'm so disappointed in GWB. He pandered to too many of these right wing idiots, and now he's about as effective as a pool of slime. If I was a little less in favor of certain gov't programs I think I'd be aligned exactly wtih you. I'm not really as anti-war so much as I thought we were reckless and irresponsible going into Iraq, and I hope to God we never do anything like that again.

Hence - why I left the Democratic party. At one point, up until a couple of years ago I was a pretty staunch Democrat (or thought I was) who would follow and defend anything they said or did. Then I realized they weren't really representing what I believed, either ideologically or practically, and the party had no leadership or backbone. All they do is pout and cry and talk about how terrible Bush is. Granted, Bush is in fact pretty terrible, but now that you've gotten people to notice, what are you doing about it? (Somewhat in their defense, they don't have a large enough majority to really trump anything and they still have to make concessions to the Republicans). I thought about registering Republican but I just can't do it, even though I align with the party ideologically on almost as many conservative issues as liberal ones, I find there are too many just plain disgusting and obnoxious people within the GOP that I just can't identify with (they are in the far left too, but the far right irks me more).

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jun 24, 2008 -> 11:08 PM) Well I guess if a vendor sold these things its the consensus of the entire party. If you want to stereotype a whole party by what a few stupid people do believe it or not we might be able to find a few democrats who have crossed the line. I know it would be unlikely, but maybe we could find one or two. I think the point is - if you think that race isn't going to be an issue, whether it's in the polls or whether Obama brings it up or not, you're fooling yourself, or maybe just being too Pollyana. Personally I'd rather Obama had not brought it up but that's another subject entirely.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jun 21, 2008 -> 12:09 PM) I loved this story. Im ambidextrous and can do anything sports related with either hand with the exception of shoot a basketball with my right and it was cool to see a pitcher that can pitch with either hand. I havent seen anything like that before. Could you imagine how much money a pitcher could make if he could pitch effectively at the MLB level with both hands? Then he could pretty much fill 2 spots in the rotation. Or literally be 2 arms in the bullpen.

What about Complaints and Grievances? The one he did in 2001. It was originally gonna be called "I Kinda Like It When A Lot of People Die" but then 9-11 happened. I guess even George Carlin has limits.

QUOTE (the People's Champ @ Jun 24, 2008 -> 03:52 PM) If he never amounts to anything, what will we have given up? We didn't give up a big name roster player for him, we gave up a prospect that "MAY BE A STUD SOMEDAY" the same phrase all the BA supporters keep hanging their hat on. To me getting a ML producer for someone that "has a chance to be a good player" is next to nothing Check out Carlos Quentin's career batting average before this season, and factor in his injury. How'd you know HE was going to be a sure thing? To take it a step further, how are we convinced his production isn't going to tail off? (rhetorical question) Revisionist goggles ftw.

ARTISTS have always been getting screwed - by the recording industry. I don't feel any sympathy for the recording industry, they put themselves in the situation they're in.

QUOTE (the People's Champ @ Jun 24, 2008 -> 03:46 PM) Show me where it is guaranteed that Carter is going to become a stud in the majors. Right after you show me where I said that. Keep ducking the logic though if it will help.

QUOTE (the People's Champ @ Jun 24, 2008 -> 03:37 PM) Doesn't matter because the deal paid off now. That is what KW wanted, production now, not in 2011. You didn't answer the question, you just changed your argument. You said we gave up next to nothing. I don't see how that's true. And obviously I'm not saying that Chris Carter is going to necessarily hit 40 HRs or even make it as a MLB starter, but it's not farfetched. And to dismiss production like that as "nothing" would actually be borderline retarded. I know you're not saying that though which is why you dodged the question.