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Well if we're going to do that we should try to trade Josh Fields for Hanley Ramirez.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 03:57 PM) So who takes over the title now of "Best veteran NBA player never to win a championship" now that KG has one? (by saying Veteran I'm deliberately excluding James and Paul and other biblical sounding names that came from that 03 draft class and after). The guys I see are Brand, Nash, Dirk, TMac, maybe Yao's getting there, Iverson, Kidd, anyone have a favorite? Tracy McGrady

They were showing some video clips of some of Russert's best work (some, because there's a lot) and man he would just OWN people when they tried to lie or BS their way around him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 12:47 PM) I think frankly you're dramatically underestimating what it will take for this team to get Roberts from the Orioles. The price someone quoted a few days ago was one of Danks/Floyd, plus Alexei, plus another player, which is probably closer to true. I said "at least." As in I think that's the absolute minimum. Richar to fill in for Floyd obviously, plus one or both of our AAA pitchers (or Fields if it's one) I think would be most likely. More than that, and it starts to really not be worth it. I wouldn't do that deal though. We're thin enough at the top as it is.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 12:33 PM) I believe Contreras is signed through 09, so we have still for one more season after this one. The only two players I see making sense for us is Figgins and Roberts, as 2B is the only place where there seems to a bit of an opening. Either 2B or another OF to pretty much rotate with Swisher, Konerko, Thome, and Dye. I wonder, what would it cost to get Roberts? Richar, Broadway, Anderson, + some more? Probably Richar + at least one pitcher who is near MLB-ready i.e. Egbert/Broadway. The Orioles need starting pitching. They have no use whatsoever for outfielders since Markakis is a perennial All-Star, there is a good chance Jones will be as well, and Luke Scott is solid and is eventually going to be replaced by a plus prospect whose name I forget. So they have no use for Anderson at all unless he's just tossed in the deal.

Yeah I was going to say something like that, the escape velocity of the moon is significantly less than Earth's. It's still a bad idea though.

Well apparently scientists have genetically engineered bugs that s*** carbon-neutral oil. Seriously. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/envi...icle4133668.ece

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 11:21 AM) http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/pos...zI0ZDc0OGRlZGE= Yeah just like me and NSS were saying. They differ, but not by as much as it sounds. Campaigning, playing to the base etc. makes things sound so exaggerated.

FL aside, I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to explore for oil if it's here in the country assuming it won't do significant damage to the environment or populated areas. But even still, we need to just stop thinking about oil, period. Even if we did start drilling here, and in Alaska etc. that doesn't really help because oil is not the future. I was listening to Giuliani talk this morning and I swear you could replace "oil" with the word "crack" and it sounded the same.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 10:50 AM) No, it will definitely be a tough race. But, with McCain, Crist, Martinez, and W all coming out just this last week in favor of lifting the offshore oil drilling moratorium, I think Obama is going to pick up some more bipartisan support. For 20+ years, Florida support for continuing to ban coastal drilling has been refreshingly non-partisan, and this flipflop by McCain and Coppertone is going to hurt the GOP in Florida in November. Why don't they want to allow the drilling? I honestly don't know.

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 09:56 AM) I will say I'm glad Obama finally discussed what I feel is one of the biggest contributing factors in the degradation of our society. Children born out of wedlock. It's a problem of epic proportions in the black community. A white politician can't touch the subject for fear of being deemed a racist no matter how careful he chooses his words...his career would most likely be in jeopardy. Even a celebrity figure such as Bill Cosby was deemed by some a racist against his own race for confronting the black community regarding poor parenting, rampant out-of-wedlock births and high dropout and crime rates. Accountability is a bad word for leaders such as Jesse and Al. It seems at some of the churches we've seen recently, preaching responsibility comes far and few between preaching divide. The are many in the black community who follow Obama because they feel they can relate to him. I'm not particularly surprised that part of his solution is to throw money at the problem, but at least the issue was acknowledged. I hope people take his words to heart and hear the important part of his message. With the stage he currently has he can do a huge service to the community. The thing about Cosby is that even though he was 100% right and meant well, he came across as old, out of touch, and snobbish. So nobody really listened, the only people that paid attention were the people that already knew, the people who needed to hear it and heed it didn't. In effect, he was preaching to the choir. I do agree though, I don't necessarily like Obama's solution, but at least he is giving the problem some attention, and in the absence of any real leadership in the black community (Sharpton, Jackson etc. are NOT leaders and Obama is the closest thing to that in a LONG time) it's been severely lacking, and has just been allowed to fester. BTW: I would say a good half my friends I grew up with/went to h.s. with fall into one of the following categories (and maybe more than half): never met their father, don't know who their father is or haven't seen him in years, know their father but don't care because they hardly ever see him. The lucky ones with unmarried parents still have some kind of decent relationship with their father but they're deep in the minority.

I'm not convinced Obama is winning FL.

I would think Broadway has dibs on the next rotation spot.

I believe it's actually Canada. I know we get a lot from Mexico too.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 11:14 PM) WAY TO LEAD YOUR SOFT-@$$ TEAM TO A TITLE, "MJ"!!!!!!11!!!!ONE!!! BTW, nice sig, lostfan. "OK? A simple 'wrong' would have done just fine but..." Business ethics!

QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 11:35 PM) Lamar Odom looking like a chump. lol, yeah I guess he was expecting the Celtics to just let up on them. That's always been my thing about "running up the score" in those circumstances - if you're mad that the other team is still playing, maybe you should've thought about showing up to the game.

omg, total rape. I knew it was going to be a relatively comfortable win in Boston based off what I saw as unimpressive performances from the Lakers, but seriously this is a complete ass thumping.

I tell you what, Dotel loooooooooooooves that fastball.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 10:14 PM) Anybody know Vazquez's ball-to-strike ratio? 113 pitches, 69 strikes 44 balls.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 09:15 PM) Dye is far and away the most underappreciated player on the Sox, and his career with the Sox has been nothing short of sensational. It just kills me how people s*** on Dye. I don't get it. Sure he gets some pretty horrid ABs in a cold streak now and again, and he is slow out there in RF, but his numbers don't lie.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 09:13 PM) Stay hot JD! He needs to be batting 4th. Yeah but BearSox said he hasn't done anything lately.

I think that may have been the worst half-inning I've seen from a Sox pitcher all year. Granted, the standards are pretty high because the pitching has been amazing. But still.

I never realized AJ throws right-handed until just now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 17, 2008 -> 08:31 PM) Ugh, wish we could have broke the game wide open. Well, I'm kind of encouraged by not getting owned by pitchers who suck and can't throw strikes, and take the walk instead of striking out on the first 1-2 pitches.

hahahaha Swisher Ball 3, not ball 4