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Kareem happens to be the NBA's all-time leading scorer, just throwing that out there, and led some pretty damn legendary teams over some other, pretty damn strong teams (when the league wasn't a fraction of the number of teams now). Putting Dwight in that category of offensive player almost makes me laugh out loud. Defense, rebounds, blocks... yes. Points? LMAO

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 01:57 PM) I hope DJ Williams is, between the PEDs and substance abuse you hope he has his head on straight. Those things actually happened in 2010 but he'd delayed them through appeals. Broncos just couldn't justify paying someone $6 million to be a potential head case when they are cap space-starved, and I know several Broncos fans that are pissed about him being cut.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 01:42 PM) And a healthy Dwight Howard would average 35/15/10 back in Kareem's prime. What's your point? Dwight's got nothing resembling a sophisticated post game or shot range. Nothing. At all. It's baffling.

Have they discovered the mass relay yet on Charon? Or rather, that Charon is actually a frozen mass relay?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 01:25 PM) Sorry, it's a different game now. Centers aren't allowed to just camp out in the paint and block shots (Mutombo/Eaton). A big now has to be almost agile/athletic as a wing to get by today. I think people really get hung up on what you said. And from there we have the never-ending (and pretty stupid) debate about a "true PG" and people lamenting how there are no more decent centers. The game isn't really better, or worse - it was gradually changed, to a more aesthetically pleasing style than fans wanted to see. It's just different. It's somewhat ironic that the 90s Bulls were the prototype for that, too. Jordan and his play style used to be one-of-a-kind and before him, you didn't win without dominant bigs. The Bulls didn't have that but obviously Jordan was exciting to watch and sold lots of tickets and got lots of ratings, and he set a new precedent. So they started changing the rules so more players could play like that. Small forwards didn't slash through the paint the way LeBron does now. Not because they couldn't, it just wasn't possible to do. You can't defend like that anymore. Now the offense is more open and free-flowing. There's still physical play, it's just not bodies packed together anymore, and some fouls they used to do in the 90s that were just hard fouls are flagrant 1's now. It's ironic that PAT f***ING RILEY of all people complained about his star player getting fouled hard.

It's funny how "disrespected" Urlacher felt after he b****ed in the middle of his contract (which was the biggest for any defensive player when he signed it) and they gave him more money, paid him more than any other Bears player ever made (unless I'm wrong which I doubt, and perhaps Peppers comes close). The Ego Monster is a strange beast. Oh and for a guy that never embraced (tolerated) fans and hated the media, it was funny how media-friendly he was while he trashed the organization to get sympathy from the fans. I do like how George McCaskey didn't micromanage in that situation though. As much as I wanted to see him ride off like Ray Lewis (who wasn't very good in his last 3 years - f*** what you heard on TV) into the sunset, fact is Williams is a significant on-field upgrade at this point, along with Anderson (who came along with Williams for less combined than what Urlacher wanted)

Bynum being injured for an extended amount of time is something that needs to be baked into any discussion involving Bynum.

I think, given the various statements made by Rose (through his "people"), if interpreted at face value the ad nauseam repeated phrase "Rose will come back when he's ready" can be revised to "Rose will come back when he feels it is worth his time to do so" He could actually still have all the goodwill and virtually unlimited support he used to have, but he's handled this SO poorly and the irony is that it all went downhill when they green-lighted him for a fluff piece in national media in which he said nothing meaningful.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Apr 2, 2013 -> 09:45 AM) So nobody really talked about the Heat beating the Spurs on the road without James, Wade, and Chalmers. Look at that starting 5 around Bosh. Rashard Lewis, Mike Miller, Norris Cole, and Udonis Haslem? Gross. I remember a few pages back some people were completely underselling Bosh's value and basically said that Lebron would still win even if he was still with the Cavs. I think Sunday is a pretty good indicator of how valuable Bosh still is (he's just the third option now) and how good the Heat play defense as a team. 86 points to the Spurs in San Antonio is pretty damn impressive. My takeaway from that game was that Stern is a f***ing clown. He has a big p**** fit and fines San Antonio $250k for giving his guys a rest, Miami does more or less the exact same thing (except more "officially" or "by the book," Popovich should have claimed they had minor injuries) and no fine. Either fine Miami, or give San Antonio its money back, or it looks like favoritism, no way around it.

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Mar 31, 2013 -> 06:15 PM) If Rose saw the Louisville-Duke game, how would he react to Kevin Ware's injury Dude, Rose already retired back in February. We are now in the post-Rose era.

The Bulls are like a wounded animal, still dangerous if you get too close, but you feel pity for it and wish someone would just take it out back and shoot it.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 3, 2013 -> 12:49 PM) if you outlaw high capacity magazines, only gay-married cousins in polygamous marraiges with their dogs will have high capacity magazines and that just goes against what Murca stands for. or something.

And I pointed out, well, once you make it ten, then why would you draw the line at ten? What’s wrong with nine? Or eleven? And the problem is once you draw that limit ; it’s kind of like marriage when you say it’s not a man and a woman any more, then why not have three men and one woman, or four women and one man, or why not somebody has a love for an animal? - Louie Gohmert Translating that from derp to English, what he said is imposing limits on magazine size is a bad idea because gay marriage leads to beastiality. Of course he is too dumb to realize he is mixing his slippery slope logical fallacies up and doesn't know what he actually said. Either limiting magazine size is a dangerous thing to do because of the slippery slope involved, and therefore you shouldn't put limits on who decides they should be able to get married... or, limiting marriage is a good idea, because of the slippery slope involved, and therefore we should impose limits on magazine sizes. He's framed a choice between legalizing gay marriage, or limiting high-capacity magazines. One or the other. Not both.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 05:18 PM) I just read the quote, it does not even say that the Bears will use it, just that they are looking at it. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-f...ize-read-option coach Marc Trestman said he’s open at looking at the read opinion. “every team is looking at it right now,” Where are the journalism police? The headline doesnt match the content. Well he should be open to looking at anything. That is what I get for not reading the whole article. But I'm still in favor of what I described.

Jordan Danks kind of doesn't suck right now.

He said, in so many words, that he is going to add read option looks to the offense (not that he is going to run an actual read-option offense - don't have the QB to do that).

That kind of fourth-estate complicity is exactly how the government agencies in 60s got so out of control with the assassinations and whatnot. It indirectly creates a separate class of bureaucracy that sees itself as above the law but acting for the sake of the law (on behalf of whomever).

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 05:08 PM) Either way Im not a fan of putting a QB at risk of getting injured. I dont even like that RGIII is doing it that often because I think its a recipe for disaster and injury. I mean I have no problem with them calling a play out of shotgun and giving Cutler the option of handing off to Forte or going play action pass. I just think that you do not want QBs taking RB hits. For example, Russel Wilson almost never actually runs read option. Most of his running comes off of boot/option or broken passing plays. In college he never used the read one time, and in the pros Ive only seen it as a decoy, hes never actually kept the ball. Wilson beat the Bears with his arm, in part because they were afraid of his legs and because they were tired from containing him.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 05:04 PM) Read option is more than just the mesh action between a QB and a RB. I dont think he means running the inverted veer over and over with Cutler. ^^What he said. Running that same play, just waiting for the DE to slip - that would be stupid, an extremely predictable kind of offense. OTOH if this was on film the pass rushers (DEs or LBs) would need to think carefully before they crash and open up the offense for other plays.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 05:01 PM) Read option should be a no. The problem is that if you dont have experience with it, you are going to end up getting your QB killed as their responsibility is to hold the ball until the DE commits. So if you are scheming against the Bears, you just simply instruct the DE to crash the QB every single play and get as many free hits as possible. You need an QB who can legitimately make someone miss 1 on 1 to run this scheme. That is why it works for players like RGIII, Cam Newton, etc. If the DE crashes the QB and the DE misses, the QB is free, so when you are playing a legitimate run qb, the DE has to respect the outside. Does Cutler really need to be taking more free hits? He is not going to be doing it the whole game. A handful of times. Cutler is not a human blur, he is deceptively elusive, though. The only way this has manifested itself in Chicago is when he played for Martz, and he'd slip the pass rush long enough to make a play. If he'd had a coach who knew how to properly execute this last year, freezing LBs for a second then making a play, he could've lit up Green Bay last year. Instead we had Tice sending Forte up the middle (which he sucks at) without even using Bush, and neglecting the middle of the field. Lots and lots of fail.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 04:53 PM) I don't remember the exact number, but his last year in Denver, his QB rating rolling out to his right was like 110 or 120. It may have just been outside the pocket in general. He doesn't like to sit behind his OLine and hit spots. He can do that, and he can put the ball where it needs to be, but scrambling opens plays up more often and his athleticism creates problems for defenses. On top of that, the second you get out of the pocket, there should never be any interceptions or sacks. I'm honestly kind of excited to watch the Bears next year. I don't remember many of the head coaches, but when was the last time they had an offensive guru as head coach (as opposed to just being a former tight end, like Ditka)? Never. You have to go back to Sid Luckman and the days of the T-formation. That is the history of the Chicago Bears, in a nutshell.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 04:59 PM) Where are the Media's Iraq War Boosters ten years later? http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/03/1...10-years/193117 Suck.On.This. Absolutely zero professional consequences whatsoever, for any of them.

QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 02:46 PM) Read option? Yes please. Not as the base offense, but as an added package to get on film for opponents? Yeah that'd be pretty awesome. Trestman is thinking of everything, I like it. Cutler isn't Wilson or Griffin but he does have wheels, and if you leave an open lane for him he'll run off 20 yards before your defense can recover. He only has to do this 2-3 times per game for it to be effective. I guess it's not really known that Cutler has above average athleticism because Tice ran a remedial first-grade offense, and moving the QB wasn't an integral part of the Martzfense. Cutler's best when he's on the move and not stationary reading defenses.

Shorter NK: "We want more free s***. Give it to us now"

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 04:16 PM) Given that you're in Maryland, it's a bigger stretch. If you were both in Chicago, though? I am flying to Chicago on Friday, so there's that.