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Guys, I started this place up in the wake of Spring Training and the new season. It's a nice forum set-up to primarily discuss all things baseball, with a few minor "off-topic" pit stops on the way as well.
I know a lot of you put up very good discussion so I was hoping many of you can join up. We're looking for mods and people who could help advertise (or one or the ot
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Guys, I started this place up in the wake of Spring Training and the new season. It's a nice forum set-up to primarily discuss all things baseball, with a few minor "off-topic" pit stops on the way as well.
I know a lot of you put up very good discussion so I was hoping many of you can join up. We're looking for mods and people who could help advertise (or one or the ot
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Guys, I started this place up in the wake of Spring Training and the new season. It's a nice forum set-up to primarily discuss all things baseball, with a few minor "off-topic" pit stops on the way as well.
I know a lot of you put up very good discussion so I was hoping many of you can join up. We're looking for mods and people who could help advertise (or one or the ot
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QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 07:28 PM) Well, I agree that he has looked lazy at times. But he has shown that he can play very good defense and has a great arm. I would prefer to see him in the backup infielder role this year. He is capable of playing all 3 IF positions, and maybe(hopefully) losing his starting job will light a fire under his fat ass. I would definitely prefer him not to start but with Ramirez apparently not having an MLB ready bat just yet (although Ozzie likes his defense) and Richar STILL not reporting to camp, I see Uribe in the starting lineup on Opening Day.
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QUOTE(flavum @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 07:12 PM) It's not about the money. It's that he'd be blocking someone. I want Floyd to get the chance from the beginning of the season. And I also like how the bullpen is setup with Wassermann, Logan, Thornton, MacDougal, Linebrink, Dotel, and Jenks. I love the bullpen too. I just hope Dotel doesn't go on the DL.
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Like I said, it isn't much of a waste of money if he goes on the DL. I'd rather spend 1-2.5 mil. on a hurt Colon than 4.5 on a playing Uribe.
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QUOTE(flavum @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 06:50 PM) I don't want Bartolo Colon anywhere near this team. Why not? If the Sox can get him cheap, it's a win-win situation because if he doesn't pan out, so what, what's a couple million dollars down the drain. But if he does work out we add another veteran and proven pitcher to the rotation. I would like this deal if the price is right, say 1-2.5 million.
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QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 06:50 PM) Uribe does not "flat out suck". There is more to baseball than just hitting. What more does he have? He's a lazy fielder and a slow runner. He has no other tools. Just because he had a good fielding percentage last year doesn't mean he is a good player.
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QUOTE(lostfan @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 06:41 PM) Because he flat out sucks and is never going to get better, the whole reason for the Cabrera trade. How much money is wasted on him shouldn't really matter, it's not like the money was spent on a potential All-Star. I know I know, I hate him as a player, but you know Kenny, with all the money he put out there for him, he make sure it wont be wasted.
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QUOTE(lostfan @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 05:59 PM) I really have a sinking feeling that Uribe is going to be starting over Richar and taking mad at-bats from him, or at least leaving thin eggshells for Richar to walk on. Which makes this my least favorite offseason move by default. It wouldn't have been so bad if they'd have traded Garland for Cabrera who was also only going to be around one more year AFTERWARDS, but that's not how it worked out. Kenny really bought low on Quentin and it could end up working out brilliantly. It took me a couple days to come around on the Swisher signing but it was better than any of the other CFers we could've gotten that year except for maybe Fukudome, assuming he lives up to all that hype. Well why wouldn't Uribe be starting at 2B over Richar? After wasting all of that money on Uribe in the offseason and Richar not even in camp yet certainly don't help. But I don't know, thats just my mindset.
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QUOTE(palehose23 @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 05:03 PM) 1. Buehrle 2. Vazquez 3. Count 4. Colon 5. Danks I really would love to see Colon signed, but I just don't see it with the money he wants, unless he'll accept anything in a few weeks in nobody wants him.
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Well, the starting rotation is something like this: 1.) Buehrle 2.) Vazquez 3.) Contreras, Danks, or Floyd 4.) Contreras, Danks, or Floyd 5.) Contreras, Danks, or Floyd I really do see Floyd and Danks winning the 2 spots, but Ozzie is really mixing it up this year, its confusing. Any of Contreras, Danks, and Floyd are going to be in the final spot winners. Check out the article: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws I sort of see the rotation like this 1.) Buehrle 2.) Vazquez 3.) Danks 4.) Contreras 5.) Floyd What do you all think about Ozzie's new plan?
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QUOTE(haroldbainesknees @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 12:32 PM) I like the Dotel, Cabrera-replacing Uribe moves & the Ramirez signing also. I can't wait for the season to start. I really think its more like Cabrera replacing Richar, which is still good, because its more likely then not that Uribe will start at 2B. And i agree, I can't wait for the season to start either. I'm pumped.
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Thats why I said it's a win-win situation, because if he isn't healthy, we don't throw away a ton of money, but if he is we can have a solid starter. And yes I know he didn't even hit 90MPH a few weeks ago in the Dominican Winter League.
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Well I know most people on here wouldn't want either, but, I think Colon would have a much bigger upside, even though we already have Ohka. Ohka just sucks. He is 50-63 lifetime, whereas Colon is 146-95 with a Cy Young in his trophy case. I would have much preferred Colon, even with his injury problems. I think signing Colon would be a win-win situation because what is wrong with spending 2-3 mil, even if he doesn't pan out, and if he does, well that adds another solid starter to our rotation. If Colon would stay healthy, I would much rather prefer him. Who would you guys pick and why?
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My reasoning for choosing Quentin for Carter as the worst is because that being injured that early in a career can really take a toll on Quentin, both mentally, and physically. Tommy John surgery on his throwing arm in 03', which was supposed to be his first season and he sat out the year, and also a partially torn left labrum (shoulder). Chris Carter really reminds me of Ryan Howard. Even though I liked the Swisher deal the best, I have a few problems with it. I would have preferred the Sox getting somebody with better defense, but I think Swish will smash 30-40 homers this year coming to one of the best hitters parks in the AL. The other problem I had was that Kenny got milked for our top 3 prospects. IMO thats the type of deal the Sox could have gotten an ELITE guy for. But Swish is also signed on a good deal.
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Personally, my worst was trading Chris Carter for Carlos Quentin. I just don't think Quentin will pan out as many think he will, and I think Carter is going to be a monster. And my best was trading for Swisher. How about you guys?
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Horrible trade. This deal no leaves us with no farm at all. We didn't need another power hitter who strikes out a ton, we have that in Thome. And he only has a .251 BA. But when Kong gets older and DH's and Thome retires, Swisher can play 1st since he is versatile.
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QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Dec 28, 2007 -> 09:24 AM) here's the question for 2008.... does josh fields= joe crede? does josh fields + whatever we receive in trade for Joe Crede= Joe Crede In 07' Fields had 23 homers in just 100 games. Also Fields had 67 RBI's and a .244 BA in 07'. In 06' Crede had 30 homers in the 150 games he played in. Crede also had 94 RBI's and a .283 in 06'. When you compare the stats Fields looks like a better power hitter, but Crede is a better producer overall as in BA and possibly RBI's and obviously defensively at 3rd. But I say let Fields season a little bit and get used to the Major League pitching and he can probably become an all around better hitter then Crede. Trade Crede and/or prospect for either an outfielder, starting pitcher, a prospect, or young, cheap reliever.
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QUOTE(bighurt4life @ Dec 24, 2007 -> 12:03 AM) Just like several others have said, he won us a title, that is something that nobody had been able to do in Chicago (both sides) for the previous 90 years so I'll give him a grace period, he has earned the right to a couple more years to get the team back in order. If he can't do it by 2009, then I think its time to move on He didn't really do it. It was luck. Look at the roster. It had no amazing talent. Every guy just played with good clubhouse chemistry in 05'. He should be fired pronto.
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The White Sox and Alexei Ramírez agree to 4 year deal
DaTank replied to JDsDirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Kei Igawa is a bust. His expectations were only a small level under Matsuzaka and the Yanks already want to get rid of him. -
The White Sox and Alexei Ramírez agree to 4 year deal
DaTank replied to JDsDirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(Kalapse @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 11:36 PM) Aside form Kaz Matsui how many Japanese star position players have been disappointments in the United States? Guys like So Taguchi and TaYoshi Shinjo were never all that good in Japan, they pretty much lived up to expectations in the US. Lived up to expectacions yes, became superstars, no. I just think that he won't live up to this superstar attention he is receiving. -
The White Sox and Alexei Ramírez agree to 4 year deal
DaTank replied to JDsDirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 11:29 PM) Your body maxes out at 26? I really don't think that is true. Can you please post a link that compares this guy to Omar Infante? I would really like to read it. I have read a lot of good things about this player and I like it. Fukudome is coming off of surgery on his throwing elbow and he missed half of the 2007 season. He has been compared to Jacque Jones - average all around except for defense where he had to be moved to RF because he couldn't play SS or 3B. I am hardly sold on the guy and think the Cubs drastically overpaid for him. I for one am glad the White Sox didn't get him. There is no way he would have been a good CFer for the White Sox. He basically said that by wanting to play RF instead. Agreed about Fukudome. He was overpaid but at least 8 mil. IMO. And in the end most Japanese players are no more than decent in the Big Leagues, with the exceptions of Ichiro and Hideki Matsui. -
The White Sox and Alexei Ramírez agree to 4 year deal
DaTank replied to JDsDirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(southsideirish @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 11:10 PM) Only cheaper, more athletic, and younger. May or may not be younger. We really will never know. But he is insanely cheaper and more athletic. -
The White Sox and Alexei Ramírez agree to 4 year deal
DaTank replied to JDsDirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 11:04 PM) when the official website of the chicago white sox says "his age is LISTED as 26" then you know he is really probably close to 30 years old. 26 sounds like a perfect age...a little too perfect. still a nice signing tho. To add on to your post this is a low-risk and can be a very high-reward type signing. I like it.