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QUOTE (chiguy79 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 03:47 PM) Like that the sox are being aggressive this offseason already, lets get the loose ends tied up so they can focus on more creative high impact moves when the offseason heats up. The Sox are gonna be as aggressive as hell in the next few weeks building a new culture within the team ASAP. This includes Manager and staff and then player moves when possible.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 10:10 AM) Anyone surprised how 'easily' they let Tito go? Something must not be right in the clubhouse, I understand Red Sox and all, but still had a good season. You can't have the biggest Sept fail in MLB history and not have fallout.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 01:09 AM) Can they afford to name a guy with no managerial experience? Epstein's job would be on the line if it backfired. A proven name gets him more time, IMO. That and the fact that hiring someone from the staff of the team that's been bedeviling you for 4 seasons would be the same as the White Sox hiring Ron Gardenhire or Terry Ryan as manager/GM. Doesn't seem very likely. Possible, maybe? http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aou0...-redsoxcollapse Looks like it is still quite possible Francona comes back...and we might not know one way or the other for another week or so, at the earliest. Kenny actually has zero issue with a complete lack of managerial experience. The key for him is the coaching staff in support of that Manager.

Expect Tito Francona to become a major candidate for the White Sox job in the next few days.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 09:43 PM) It breaks down to this: Which managerial tree is more impressive? Mike Scioscia --> Joe Maddon --> Dave Martinez or Frank Robinson --> Manny Acta --> Sandy Alomar, Jr. Quite frankly, I'd love either one but Martinez comes from a far more impressive tree. Dont forget Ron Roenicke. He was Scioscia's bench coach as well. He's done a brilliant job in MIL. Martinez has the better pedigree --hands down.

Comparing Alomar to Martinez considers so many factors not evident to anyone that doesn't know them and has interviewed them. That being said, there is a difference between Martinez as a four-year Bench Coach for the best Manager in baseball right now in the Rays dugout and Sandy standing in The Tribe's first base coaches box...Sandy has just now reached the status of Bench Coach starting next season. Martinez has been one for four very successful seasons with what many consider among the finest franchises in MLB.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:50 AM) Yeah I doubt Francona would come here. I'd rather spend the money he will make on a player and have Martinez or Alomar here. Tito is so available now.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 01:48 AM) God I would love Frank Thomas as a hitting coach. They've talked about it...

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 02:47 AM) http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/major...11/2612403.html When he's right, he sprays line drives from gap to gap with a level swing. He showed strong hands and excellent hand-eye coordination last year, when he looked like a potential No. 2 hitter with doubles power. Martinez's plate discipline took a hit this year and he never got going offensively and his confidence suffered. At times he fell into a pull mode, getting away from what made him successful earlier (but this flaw is expected to be fixed by Sox hitting coach Greg Walker, who's renowned for turning dead-pull hitters into spray hitters). Mentally he wasn't the same player, both at bat and in the field, where his play at short went from steady to erratic. He has the skills to play second and third and could fill a utility role. The strong arm is still there, as are the rest of his tools, but he showed only occasional glimpses of the all-around game that had Florida so excited a year ago. Puerto Rican, by the way. Maybe can guide Alex Rios... Sounds like a very talented kid that fell into a rut. Happens all the time. I think he'll help the team next season.

Wow, Martinez is the consensus favorite...it's gonna be SAJr.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 10:39 AM) Next year's starting rotation should be....IMO: - Sale - Peavy - Floyd - Humber - Stewart/Axelrod Lineup should be...IMO: - De Aza - Beckham - Konerko - Viciedo - Dunn - Rios - Ramirez - AJP - Morel Lillibridge platoon with De Aza, Flowers is back-up catcher So, just prospects for both Danks & Quentin?

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:09 PM) The bad contracts are partially mitigated by the promise of De Aza/Flowers/Viciedo. Production from those guys plus a creative/smart addition to the roster and we are back on track. A manager can still matter. Foremost of course is that he not be a total idiot, but then getting past that...there is still something at stake in 2012, especially in a division like ours. I would add Morel to that hopeful list.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 09:57 AM) I'd much rather have Martinez. Sandy seems like a quite version of Ozzie, a manager that goes with his gut. I want someone who uses statistics to make better decisions. C'mon there is NO WAY to know what kind of Manager he'd be.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Rumor yesterday is that it was Stanton we asked for Beyond ridiculous

Very nice haul all things considered. Both could be future impact players. Jhan Marinez Marinez, 23, posted a 3.57 ERA, 11.5 K/9, 6.5 BB/9, and 1.1 HR/9 in 58 Double-A relief innings this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America ranked Marinez fourth among Marlins prospects, citing a "combination of great stuff and immaturity." Marinez has a closer repertoire, wrote BA. Osvaldo Martinez Martinez, a 23-year-old shortstop, hit .245/.296/.322 in 371 Triple-A plate appearances this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America ranked him fifth among Marlins prospects, saying he profiles as a "solid No. 2 hitter" with a strong arm, good instincts, and soft hands at shortstop. At that time, BA saw a future as a versatile but quality utilityman the worst-case scenario for Martinez.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 01:05 PM) Yep. ChrisRongey Chris Rongey Will certainly be a strange night on the south side. Cooper managing #WhiteSox, maybe Buehrle's last Sox start Change is good. This team needs a labotomy.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 12:51 PM) It would feel very much like hiring Ozzie Guillen again, honestly. Albeit, a much quieter version. WHAT?!

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 09:24 AM) I can't shake the info that said that they're looking to hire someone currently managing in the bigs. Outside of LaRussa, I'm kind of at a loss figuring out who that could be. TITO!

The fans want Martinez but my money is on the fact that Sox are gonna hire Sandy Alomar Jr. SOON.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:23 PM) Something is wrong with you. You may have disliked Ozzie in the end of his tenure, but it's not worth getting this excited over. I can't feel hate towards the guy who managed a White Sox World Series. I feel sorry for you that you let more recent events make the most successful manager in franchise history a villain. Nothing wrong with these guys. Ozzie makes it SO DAMN EASY to dislike him.

Holy Choke-Job, Red Sox!!!

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:15 PM) http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/...fter-this-year/ LOL. I was kidding as a reference to Ozzie going to FLA. Hilarious.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:14 PM) And I can live with Cooper leaving, too. Oh man, I'm so tired. I want to sleep, but I want to keep watching this. Coop stays - and he should.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:13 PM) Well the press conference should be interesting. Will he cry? Thank The Lord this is the LAST Ozzie presser. I literally couldn't stand to listen to a word he's said for months. Not-a-word.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:12 PM) I don't buy Cora managing here for a minute. Bell or La Russa maybe, but only to hold the position until Joe McEwing is ready. But the Dave Martinez or Sandy Alomar thing sounds more realistic. Couldn't agree more.