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Somewhere Javier Vazquez is retiring...lol

Terry Francona is out of a job within days...?

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:10 PM) @jonmorosi Jon Morosi Reinsdorf said to hold Joey Cora, Buddy Bell, and Tony La Russa in high regard. Three names to keep in mind as #WhiteSox prepare for search. 53 seconds ago via web NO, NO and NO

Baseball Tonight reporting deal is for BOTH a MLB & MILB player...FWIW

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 03:50 PM) MDGonzales Mark Gonzales No. 13's office door closed Won't be no. 13's door much longer...

QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 25, 2011 -> 07:11 PM) I'd be surprised if Boston let him go. If they did...I'd much rather have him than a few names I've heard. MUCH more than Larussa btw...but neither are available right now. If Boston doesn't make the playoffs, he very likely is gonna take the fall.

Francona's contract is up at the end of the season and there is big time discontent in BOS right now as injuries and terrible pitching is killing that team's chances. The guy has two W.S. rings as manager and has managed several years in the Chicago White Sox organization: In 1991, he managed the rookie league Sarasota White Sox of the Gulf Coast League. In 1992, he ran the South Bend White Sox of the mid-level Class A Midwest League. As manager of the AA franchise Birmingham Barons from 1993–1995, he posted a 223-203 record and won two distinctions: Southern League Manager of the Year in 1993, Baseball America's Minor League Manager of the Year in 1993, and top managerial candidate by Baseball America in 1994. Birmingham won the Southern League championship in 1993. Great fit for this team going forward.

De Aza has been fantastic this season in AAA and then transferring that production to the bigs. I woud predict a .280/345/.420 slash from him next year in 400 + PAs.

I think ADA is a lock to leadoff and play LF next season -as well he should,...unless Ozzie is again the manager.

QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 06:00 AM) *another* I'm not certain I would consider Oz a player's manager this season. WHAT?! His preference to run his boys Pierre and Rios out there when they were the worst players in baseball through May and June was as much to do with this season's result as anything else - Dunn included. For this and other reasons Ozzie is the definition of "player's manager". This team needs not a recent retiree but a lifer that values outs and performance over payroll.

Nice. Per his usual pattern, he adjusts and excels at every level. He's like a different player lately. His approach has been brilliant.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) Dave Martinez played with the Sox for three years. That is a guy I would give a shot to with Hahn. Please stop with the Alomar/Martinez ideas. The LAST thing this team needs is another player's manager.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) Nice to see Morel find power, but I've got to believe that if there was any semblance of meaning left in the games the Sox play (there hasn't been for quite some time now) his power would still be a myth. That first Detroit sweep took a lot of pressure off this team. So when standing in the batters-box, somehow his improved split-second pitch recognition and efficient path into the ball doesn't happen when the game around him has some "semblance of meaning?"

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) Outside of a total lack of energy candidate like another Manuel, I really don't care. I think more than anything the team needs a breath of fresh air. Some new coaches, a new attitude, a different voice, a different set of spring training rituals, a mental boost more than anything. Whatever manager comes in I'm likely to hate something he does. As long as it turns into wins in the long run, I'll live. Yes, Yes and Yes! +1

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2011 -> 11:30 PM) Here's a prediction for next year: Rios is the starting LF and De Aza/Lillibridge platoon in CF. The Sox organization is supposedly extremely frustrated by Rios' defense in CF, and that seems to be even more obvious with Ozzie's quotes the other day. Frustrated by Rios in CF?! As well they f@cking should be. His pathetic "cruising" to a routine fly and shoulder-catches are His attempt to offset his countless misreads. I detest Alex Rios.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 6, 2011 -> 07:42 PM) And if they weren't...give them a week off. Or if they don't hustle...stop giving them playing time! In the name of all that is good in baseball...^ +1.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 6, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) This would be a worst case scenario, as Ozzie's ego would grow bigger and Walker would likely be brought back. IMO, Walker will NOT be back. He's gonna walk away after this season. (without actually taking a walk...as he doesn't value .OBP enough...)

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 6, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) Way too hard to tell what WILL happen at this point... so here is what I would WANT to happen... Fire Ozzie and basically the entire coaching staff (Except Cooper, who I would strongly suggest the new manager retain) Promote KW to some Team Prez type position, bring Hahn to GM, and let him pick his staff, including #1 input on new manager and coaches Let Pierre, Castro and Pena go If the new manager is OK with it, offer Vizquel a position as a bench coach or base coach, and de facto infield coach Re-sign M56 if at all possible (I will assume in this scenario that it is doable at about 3 years) Keep PK14, Beckham (whose chances I like to improve with the bat), Alexei, Viciedo, Rios (who I think is basically untradeable and may improve with dfferent leadership), Dunn (also untradeable), De Aza, Lillibridge, AJP and Flowers Rotation of M56, Peavy (who I think will be better next year), Floyd, Sale, and one of Humber/Stewart (with the other as the 6th man, and long man in pen) If you can trade Ozzie for Lo Mo, do it. But I will assume not, so... Use Thornton, TCQ, Danks and Morel* as trade bait to get a strong LF (and possibly upgrade 3B if you can, in which case, trade Morel) Try to trade one of the experienced and semi-expensive bullpen arms (Frasor, Crain, Ohman), as part of the LF and 3B upgrades Bullpen of Santos (closer), 2 of Crain/Frasor/Ohman (2 setups), Santiago (left specialist), Reed (MR), Stewart/Humber (long man and 6th starter), and either the remaining Crain/Frasor/Ohman or Infante or some other acquisition as the other MR Bench of Flowers, Lillibridge, Tyler Kuhn and Alejandro De Aza (who would pretty much platoon with the other OF's, making a 4 OF rotation of sorts) ...By my math, but trading Thornton, TCQ and Danks, you save about $18M-$20M in 2012 to go towards M56 and the new LF. I figure M56 will get $12M/year for 2-3 years, if I had to guess. If the new LF is a younger guy and not a pricey free agent, that should be plenty of money to cover. And that leaves the team, more or less, at an even salary level with 2011. Not sure if JR will go for that much salary though. Just what I'd hope is all. AND MY QUESTION TO THE BOARD... who are some good OF candidates that might be available in a trade involving some or all of TCQ/Danks/Thornton? Young players/prospects would be my guess as a return. My targets would be Logan Morrison, Josh Reddick, Travis Snider, Jeremy Moore, Yonder Alonso.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 06:36 PM) Possibly. He could also be replacing Peavy if he's shut down by the Sox. Seems like that is what Peavy wants based off his post-shelling interview. And the team will run him out there and trash his future status even further...

Tank batting cleanup - week too late! Hell, two months too late!!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 04:44 PM) See, this is what I mean. If you are gonna get guys like are mentioned in this thread, then keep Ozzie. Ozzie Guillen vs. Tony Pena?? My god. Please, please explain. "what you mean". This outta be good...

Tony Pena (Yankees bench coach & former KC manager) should get heavy consideration as the next manager.

Yeah that was Ozzie laughing in the dugout last night. LAUGHING. When asked on air if he would be laughing, Bobby Valentine said "I don't think I could force a smile right now..."

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 3, 2011 -> 07:00 PM) That was the proverbial cherry on the sundae. A failure of epic proportions that rivals or exceeds any single-season failure in White Sox history. To the greg hibbards, heads, the greg/elrockin hybrid, etc, please stop. It's done now. I'm all for a 20+ game losing streak to at least salvage a decent draft pick. As usual you are the king of hyperbole. I thought you were leaving. Wait, weren't you leaving? I thought you were leaving.

Truly amazing. Up 8-1 in the 5th in a must-win game. I can honestly say I KNEW they would blow this game.