ChiliIrishHammock24
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I would love to get Schwellenbach back in a trade.
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1 hour ago, JPR said:
Sounds like a way to get another prospect or two
Yup. Just a "division tax".
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Orioles going with half-measures again.
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10 hours ago, Rolle Tide said:
I still think you could get something like Basallo, Beavers, McDermott or Povich, Bright, Stowers, and a DSL lottery ticket or 2 for Crochet and Brebbia.I would take that 1st package all day. ??♂️
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Wow I feel like no one had that one. Everyone has us taking a hitter. Shocker and unsure how to feel.
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I think the Sox will get Wetherholt.
Personally I would love for it to be Cags, but I honestly think I would be happy with anyone at #5 that we've heard, outside of Kurtz.
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I joined SoxTalk on December 30th, 2007 at age 17 under the name JoeCoolMan24. Then 4 days later the Sox traded for Nick Swisher.
I may have cursed us all.
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Could the White Sox squeeze a Josue De Paula out of the Dodgers? I find it very difficult to figure out Crochet's actual value to other teams. ??♂️
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9 hours ago, bmags said:
God let me hold your hand child. Tork has not been the only top first baseman prospect drafted in the first round the last ten years. Even if their numbers were a little worse in college, it hasn’t translated AT ALL to the majors. So you can’t even say, well is it worth a top 5 pick to just get an average first baseman? Because they have been unplayable or bottom 5 i.e. he’s been garbage.
You don’t think it’s relevant that he’s a 1b, but being a 1B already in college is a huge limitation. Their hitting has to be there, and they are likely there because they lack the athleticism to play anywhere else. And if they already lack athleticism, are they tapped out from strength and body control to help them succeed at a higher level?
It’s a big concern and it’s not lazy to lump him in with the other players who were placed at 1b in college.
Child? From an admin? Lol this is why myself and so many others stopped posting here regularly. You can converse without being c***y. Or maybe you can't? Either way, this conversation ended right there for me.
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35 minutes ago, hi8is said:
Is there any legit chance Cags could be a two way player? I don’t know much about him but the prospect of a guy who can play on both sides of the field is always interesting to me.
Maybe not as a starter, but I would hope whoever drafts him gives a shot to both hit and come in out of the bullpen. Regardless I hope he gets a shot to do both. But even if he doesn't, you'd think that make might have even more dangerous of a hitter since he won't be commiting time working on being a pitcher and could focus solely on training to hit.
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3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:
He's talking about Vaughn and Tork.
I didn't even mention Vaughn in my original comment. All I mentioned was Tork and Cags and said it's not fair to lump them together. Then he said yes it is, because he has been garbage. How does that make any sense?
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3 hours ago, bmags said:
His covid season was 17 games. It's fair to lump them together because he has been garbage. And vaughn has been garbage. Not just "well not sure it was great value at top 5" but like garbage. And Schanuel, under .700 OPS. They are all just bad to out of the league.
Damn, we should definitely take a first baseman in the second round.
Cags has been GARBAGE??? What are you even talking about?
I'm saying it's not fair to lump Cags into the group with Tork (and Vaughn if you want), simply because they are 1B. That's lazy. Cags has been significantly better than those guys were, and is left handed, oh, and also spends half of his time training to be a pitcher which it sounds like he won't have to focus on as a pro. We also don't really know if he's for sure limited to 1B yet, he just did it to allow him to pitch as well. That's like saying Ohtan is only a DH, instead of the fact that he DHs so he can pitch as well.
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2 hours ago, bmags said:
Eh just remember torkelson's final season got covid'd. Nolan Schanuel was in a much worse conference but had a near 1.500 ops and did have a 3 homer game vs florida.
He may very well be the exception but we are talking college stats.
Cags has hit HRs at a higher rate than Tork in his Covid season. About 60+ pts higher batting average, and less than half the strikeout rate. And he's a lefty. I don't think it's fair for people to lump them together.
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Cags just went deep again. Unless I'm mistaken, his numbers are vastly superior to other 1B taken at the top of the draft recently.
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Callis mocked Cags again to the Sox today but said it's wide open. He also mentioned Montgomery, Griffin, and Rainer. Seems to think they go hitter.
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Crochet is only going to pitch another what, 50-60 innings the rest of this season? Padres will either have to start limiting him to 3-4 IP at a time or just make him a multi-inning RP.
I just don't see him bringing a huge return. I'd like to see them pair him with one of our RPs for a better package.
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36 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said:
I know Salas is highly touted but I wouldn't be trading him for 17 or 18 year olds right now.
If I'm moving Robert or Crochet, I want guys who are here in the next 18 months.
Lol. There is NO scenario in which the Padres would trade Salas for Crochet straight up. I think De Vries + is a more realistic package.
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New BA mock....
"5. White Sox — JJ Wetherholt, SS, West Virginia
A lack of playing time thanks to a hamstring injury hurt Wetherholt’s draft stock. Since he’s been back in West Virginia’s lineup he’s been the exact player he was expected to be entering the season. Wetherholt is a career .376/.500/.663 hitter with West Virginia and his underlying batted ball data is remarkably similar to Travis Bazzana’s. Bazzana has done a better job pulling the ball in the air to capitalize on his power, but I’m not sure there’s a significant raw power difference between the two.
The biggest separator for Wetherholt is the fact that he’s actively playing shortstop. That gives him a chance for the best defensive value of any of the top six college hitters in the class and if there’s a thought that his hit/power combo is as good as Bazzana’s, why couldn’t he fit at the very top of the class?"
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4 hours ago, Quin said:
Mayo's new mock has the Sox taking Cags
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2024-mock-draft-may-30?partnerID=web_article-share
I feel like this would become the most contentious pick in this board's history. Some (me) would be ecstatic. Others would rue it.
I feel like we're often on the same page with draft prospects that we covet.
I did see that our guy Jakson Reetz was playing the Majors recently with the Giants. We both really wanted the Sox to get him in the 3rd RD when they took Jace Fry instead. That was 2014! 10 years ago!
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Cags to the Sox?? ?? Man that would be sweet. I wonder if he has a chance to move to RF?
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4 hours ago, DirtySox said:
James retweeted this. A name we need to know?
Maybe if they save $500K+ by taking Konnor Griffin at #5, they could pass those savings along to Nate George later. ??♂️
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Had Pedro thought about pinch running Shewmake 1 pitch earlier, the Sox would be up 4-1 on that Ramos flyball. Asleep at the wheel. Let's see how large that 1 run looms....
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4 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:
I got to watch Cags today in person. He didn't have much command on his FB. Topped out at like 96. Mostly sat around 94. I feel like he threw it only 50% of the time today. Control wasn't great but he was throwing a nasty change-up at like 74 mph. Thing was fluttering and got a lot of swings and misses on it. Looks like he snapped off some nice sliders too. Maybe a curveball as well? I'm not totally sure what pitches he throws, just going off what I could tell from my angle.
Also this happened..... ?
Was definitely thrown at, the next pitch he swung out of his shoes at an off-speed pitch and got laughed at by the LSU crowd. Then the next pitch he smashed a no-doubter oppo and razzed the crowd a bit. It was pretty great.
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2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:
Sox moved to 68 for Chapman signing. It stays there for Snell because Giants only forfeited a third
Damn that's why I was afraid of I just couldn't remember if that changed.
How much is a guy like Fedde worth in a trade?
in Trade Winds 2024
Posted · Edited by ChiliIrishHammock24
Lol I understand Vargas isn't as exciting as he was 12 months ago, but he was not a DFA candidate, let's be serious here. Colson Montgomery is hitting a wall right now and sliding down top 100 boards too, but you probably aren't ready to say he's worthless now too.
I definitely wanted more of a sure thing to heading a Fedde deal, and I'm far from excited about this return, but there is a real chance Vargas ends up being a league average player for us for a few years.