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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 01:27 PM) Ok, so that was an exaggeration...but you ought to get my point. At the current rate, it's impossible for him to play 100 games...and at least a portion of those, he was playing while not 100%. And I don't see why that's a reason he should retire because the flip-side of that argument is that you can say he hit .305/.404/.876 in an injury plagued year, so imagine what he can do when he is healthy.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 01:22 PM) Wouldnt a player's value be independent of what his team does? It's like the W stat, it's pretty much out of the pitcher's control, just like it is out of the hitter's control whether or not there are guys infront of him, or good bats behind him, or that there is a good pitching staff helping the team win games. A player's value should be recorded as how well they performed during that season, if that means they were the best hitting/fielding combination in the league then wouldnt adding that player give a ton of value to a playoff team. No, because the award is "Most VALUABLE Player", not "Best Hitter" or "Best Player". A Cy Young winner can come from a crappy team because Cy Young award is for the best pitcher. But MVP is for the player that was most valuable to his team, and if your team didn't succeed with you, then you weren't that valuable to them.

QUOTE (SexiAlexei @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 12:08 PM) I don't think you should win the MVP if your team doesn't even make the playoffs... How can you be the most valuable player in the AL if your team is sitting at home in October? Isn't the point of the season to make the playoffs and win the WS? I agree. In fact, I just wrote an article about the NL MVP and basically outlined this very idea that you obviously weren't that valuable to the team if the team can't even make the post season w/ you. You aren't losing much ground. My golden rule for MVP.... - Player's team MUST make the playoffs. Exception to this is teams who are eliminated in the final couple days of the season, or a player puts up record breaking numbers and is far and away superior in almost every way over the competition.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) I wouldn't be at all surprised if Manroid did retire at the end of this season. He was hurt all year, he's going to find very limited contract offers this offseason, he's either off his helpful juice or he's risking a 100 game suspension, he's going to have to take a gigantic pay cut, and wherever he goes, he's not going to be the center of attention any more. He was? Because I am pretty sure he has played in more than half the games this year. So, really, he hasn't been hurt for even HALF the year, let alone ALL year.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) Yeah...I'm with you. I'm not sure why KW is catching hell for making a move to improve our chances? Either y'all think Kotsay/Jones was a better DH option or you are an investor in this franchise. Me, I'm a White Sox fan and I was thrilled to see someone of Manny's ability come on board. He's disappointed, but I definitely liked the move. Only compared to what he used to be. Some people here act like Manny has hit .200 with this team and looked bad in every at bat. Manny is hitting .270 with us and an OBP of .400. Those are bad for Manny's standards, but compared to the rest of this team, he has still been one of the betters players on the team.

Nah, this team isn't making the playoffs, so I don't really think Paulie deserves it. With Hamilton out, it's going to be more between him and Cano.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 01:16 AM) Not really. It's probably not fair. But when you're already 4 games out (at the time of his first start) with less than a month to go you need the guy you're acquiring to step up and produce like right away. Manny looks washed up right now. If we lose these next two games, this will be the biggest waste of 4 million bucks in White Sox history. Manny has obviously been a waste of money, but mainly because this team is too far out with too little games to play. But to think Manny is done and needs to retire? Absolutely hilarious.

Tried getting into Mad Men. Couldn't, so I've moved on to Eastbound and Down and it's absolutely hilarious.

I noticed that my little cousin can field better at 3B than Mark Teahen.

Oh wow, talk about going overboard.....

LOL at all you "Manny sucks". Seriously, get a grip.

No one because this team and Ozzie are a bunch of p*****s..... Minus Lillibridge. I heard he punched a baby in the face once for looking at him funny.

J4L, I have you have never followed college football, college basketball, high school sports, or any sort of little league before. Because the talent there just isn't as good as it is in the pros....

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 13, 2010 -> 11:04 PM) Like I said, to each their own. I've never in my baseball fan life given two s***s about whether one of our minor league affiliates actually one or lost a game. All I care about when it comes to the minor leagues are LEGITIMATE prospects, not nice guys (Jeff Bajenaru comes to mind) that have no chance in hell of making it to The Show. I look at this Dash team, and I don't see one guy with a snowball's chance in hell of sniffing Chicago before, I don't know, 2013? If then? And another thing that makes minor league titles worthless is that the elite talent is obviously going to make it to the big leagues at some point during any given year. The elite talent that's leftover usually jumps at least one level during any particular year. So by playoff time you don't even have anything close to the team you started with most of the time. Just a bunch of roster filler and AAAA guys on their last harrahs before it's time to go out and get a real job. I will say you have a point for those that don't live in Chicago. But you have to see where I'm coming from as well. I see you must live in DOWNERS Grove.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2010 -> 12:09 AM) And became the best SS in the league. Defensive, sure.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 07:18 PM) It would have been as worthwhile as comparing a 21 year old in rookie ball to the best hitter of his generation in the Majors. I'm not comparing the hitters, I am comparing the numbers. Wilkins HR swing looks like Ken Griffey Jr's. That doesn't mean I am comparing him to Griffey as a player, it means I am comparing their HR swings. I am comparing Wilkin's BB and K rates to those of Pujols so people get an idea of what is a good number to have. If I just said 13%, it doesn't give you an idea of how good or bad that number is, but if I show you a player with a number similar to that, if lets you know how the number compares.

What the hell was that Alex? Ball almost hit him in the chest...

QUOTE (chiguy79 @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 07:24 PM) when will our team realize that Joe West umpire crew just screws us... Fixed your post.

Our fans just boo'ed Kotsay. That is just disgusting and absolutely classless of this crowd. They are embarrassing this fanbase! -- Greg.

Awww f***, Kotsay is up. Runners on 1st and 3rd, 0 out, and we don't score. FUUUUCCCKK. Off to the top of the 5th......

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 10, 2010 -> 06:34 AM) Ok...in the MLB. I'm excited about Wilkins, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Would the point have gotten across if I named some no-name rookie ball player who had similar rates?

Boo Mark Kotsay and Boo no Morel.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2010 -> 05:59 AM) I'm still waiting for Anorexei Ramirez to bulk up. It shocked me when the say he lost 5 lbs. during last offseason. I like this. I like this a lot.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Sep 10, 2010 -> 08:36 AM) Hey Joe, Die-lawn, hot fire. His name is Dylan, which I assume is pronounced the typical way of (Dill/in). That wouldn't work.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Sep 10, 2010 -> 05:43 AM) Dude, you didn't even bother to add up the numbers to see if they were close to accurate? Nah, I just made sure they equaled 140 games.