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I liked the number 27 better. My favorite number is 24, so maybe Crede can be traded soon, and Josh can switch to 24 then!

Anyone got a Spring training one for 2008?

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Feb 21, 2008 -> 07:47 PM) whitesox.com you gotta click on another audio or video clip, then you will have access to it, Ozzie & Havy have commercials too I found it. But of course, it won't play. However, i did see the Gavin Floyd interview, and MAN is he hard to listen to. Kid doesn't know what to say more than not. And I saw the Konerko interview, and he was REALLY tiptoeing around trying to be very very careful with his words. lol. He just kept revising every sentence he spoke.

Best was Quentin trade. Worse was Garland trade. (made AFTER Uribe re-signed. It needed to be done at the time because it was gaurenteed we could even get Cabrera).

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Feb 21, 2008 -> 05:34 PM) This is on the Sox site now. Hawk haters will really hate it. Link?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Feb 21, 2008 -> 06:26 PM) Our 1st look at Alexei Ramirez... Sneaky Cuban stole Swisher's bat!

Please tell me this isn't to a major league deal.....

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 21, 2008 -> 01:03 PM) This is the kind of s*** you read about every year. Everyone is either in the best shape of their lives and looking amazing come the first few days of spring training. Unless your name is Juan Uribe.....

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Feb 20, 2008 -> 10:26 PM) I feel great about him THIS year. I'm a huge fan of Danks and I even have expectations for him this season. To the few Danks fans here. Ah, I meant next year as in the season that starts in 5 weeks. Not as in 2009. Call me extrememly optimistic about Danks, but I am feeling a 12 win season, with an ERA in the mid-to-low 4's.

Not sure if it was mentioned anywhere else, but Danks has learned a cutter, and appearantly its very impressive. It's being compared to Buehrle's cutter, and Fields took a few AB's vs. Danks today, and said that the cutter was "nasty" and even better than Danks had been raving about. God I hope this is for real. If Danks has mastered a cutter, then I really really feel good about him next year. With Floyd being praised beyong belief, Danks appearant "sick" cutter, and MacDougal doing really well, there is a LOT to be excited about these Spring Training games.

If Owens steals 65 bags next year, then we must have been having a pretty good year. Or Quentin injuried himself.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 19, 2008 -> 09:52 PM) You want him to stay. Convince him within a short period of time to fire his agent Boras who will get him riches, and take a contract that will be slighted towards the whitesox. Eitherwise say goodbye your likeable guy. I didn't say I wanted him to stay..... Im just defending the people who happen to like Crede, and would like to see him turn things around and be able to stay with the Sox, whether it be intil July or not.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 19, 2008 -> 09:47 PM) Considering we already have a 12 man bullpen set up, trying something like that would wind up leaving the Sox with a 3 man bench. 2 after Toby Hall. Well if that were the case were Colon was here to split time, then a reliever would go to AAA, and the one who is not pitching would maybe come out of the bullpen on that 5th day. Conteras maybe goes 5 innings, and then Colon comes and takes the last 3 before handing the save over to Jenks (Yes, wishful thinking).

Could Colon just be an emergency option for Contreras? Maybe since they both have AARP cards, they will switch off starts? I dont see that as a wise financial decision, but maybe Kenny is not worried about the money (see Uribe, Linebrink).

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Feb 19, 2008 -> 07:17 PM) What makes people think Crede can obtain us draft picks? First off there's no chance he'll become a type A, and I don't know how good of season he'll have to have just to become a type "B" free agent which would net us one supplemental pick. Big whoop. Wow. You care WAYYY to much about people having interest in Crede (who is a very likable guy may I add). People like Crede, and hope he can stay, big whoop. You don't need to bash everyone for liking a player, especially considering your signature. Seems you should know about cult icons on the team.

Just for the sake of discussion, lets say, LETS JUST SAY, that..... Joe Crede comes out this spring and lights it up. He flashes great defense, his hitting tremendously, and is just better than he has ever played before. Meanwhile, Fields is still struggling with his glove over at 3B, and is misplaying easy balls. Do you trade Crede because his value it is as high as it was before the injury, or do you try and work around keeping Crede with this new found back, and maybe look at moving Konerko with Fields then to 1B (or LF and Swisher to 1B, Quinten/Owens to CF) or any other options that would keep Crede at 3B?

I want to hear this!

for me... 1) Fields 2) Buehrle 3) Swisher

I hope he starts in AA, and can make it up to AAA by the end of the season. Then hopefully make the team by 2009-2010.

QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 02:37 PM) FutureSox says "Hi!" http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52199 Willits is certainly better than Owens, Quentin, or any other one I could have put in CF. And this is going to be played on Out Of The Park 8. It's a baseball sim game. Not "fantasy" per say. By the way, this is my current 25 team... http://usmlb.50g.com/mlbsimleague/teams/te...oster_page.html That's the league website. And that's my current roster, you can check out my minor league system as well if you want.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 09:28 PM) All this talk of how easy first base is kind of makes me laugh. Yes playing first for your beer league softball team probably doesn't require any athleticism. But playing the position in the majors requires some skill. There is this whole footwork part that everyone is glossing over. And the ability to take short hop throws and stretch while keeping on the bag is another thing. So no you cant just put anyone over at first and hope it works. Can fields do it sure, but whats the point. Oh its the Crede-4-Life coalition who is always inventing brand new ways of keeping him on this team. They were on the move Fields to left for a while no matter how much Kenny said that isn't going to happen. Now its lets get rid of Konerko and move Fields over there. For the C4L crew remember this magical formula. Crede+2007 Season Ending surgery+Bora$$+FA Year = Overwhelming HE GONE. No one is saying keep Crede all season, but it sure dosen't make any sense to dump him now while he has no value at all. Brian Anderson would bring more back than Crede right now. Give Crede a chance to prove he is healthy, then trade him come July. And of all the positions in baseball, 1B is the one that requires the LEAST amount of skill or athletism. Fields, however, has athletism and I am sure if Konerko can stretch to reach balls, then Fields would have no problem doing so. Basically I see it this way, Swisher is a better OF defensively, then Fields is a 3B defensively, so it would be better to stick Fields at 1B, then it would Swisher. Also, Crede at 3B would be much better defensively, than Fields in LF or Quentin in LF.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 01:43 PM) Moving Fields to 1B hurts his value as well. If you want Crede in the lineup and Quentin out, the best thing would be to use Swisher at 1B which is his best position by a good margin and Fields in LF. Either way, you are hurting someone's value. You can disagree with the assessment of Quentin being a better offensive player than Crede it's fine. It's all opinion at this stage. Neither is exactly in great shape health wise. When healthy, I'll take Quentin's bat over Crede's every day of the week. Fields is a below average defensive 3B. Fields in LF and Swisher at 1B is worse than Swisher in LF and Fields at 1B. Swisher PLAYS outfield, Fields does not, or at least not very well when he had to. You are hurting Swishers value by putting him at 1B (he is a good corner outfielder defensively), but you are NOT hurting Fields' value by putting him at 1B (he is NOT a good 3B defensively). Also, I am not so sure that Quentin can hit .280+ with 30 HR, 90+ RBI, and play gold glove defense.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 01:19 PM) First, Swisher is a very good defensive 1B. Second, Fields doesn't play 1B. Third, Quentin will be a better offensive player than Crede. 1B is the easiest position to move to. Konerko is an average defensive 1B and we have never had problems. Put Fields there, and he will be fin.e Swisher going to 1st hurts his value, he is a very gifted athlete, Corner OF would get better value out of him. Quentin better offensively than Crede? Mind you he had surgery so you wont see terrible numbers like in 07. I would rather see Crede's great glove down at 3rd then dump him off while he has absolutely no value. At least give him until the all-star break before you trade him. And Quentin can survive 1 year of platooning in the OF, its not like he is never going to get a shot.

If we trade Konerko, why does Swisher move to first? Trade Konerko and try to get Willits and Shields. Or some CF and pitcher. Then set us up like this... LF - Swisher CF - Willits RF - Dye 3B - Crede SS - O-Cab 2B - Richar/Uribe whatever 1B - Fields DH - Thome Instead of moving Swisher to 1B and still having to play Quentin in left, why not move Fields to 1st, and keep Crede with us. And in the event that Crede needs a day off for his back, you move Fields to 3rd, Swisher to 1st, and Quentin then in LF. Am i missing something? Why hasn't this been mentioned?

QUOTE(Gbubbs @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 02:44 AM) l would say you are high and the Dew sig would suggest you are really high Really? I figured an aging player getting played a lot of money for a young very talented player and a young talented pitcher was a good trade...