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QUOTE(wsgdf_2 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 09:31 PM) There seriesly may be another explanation. you series?

QUOTE(JFields27 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 09:15 PM) yeah i posted this in this thread earlier .. it was over on WSI and everyone ripped the guy cuz no one heard it .. but i guess someone did hear it and espn 1000 may have been a bit premature and threw it out there and then they took it out .. here is the thing on the espn boards .. http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?spo...9498&lid=40 It started over at WSI(they deleted it because in their minds it was a hoax) the poster started a thread that said Confirmed Reports: Konerko to ... blah blah whatever in the thread was the trade and the guy said that his friend emailed it to him saying he heard the trade that had S-Rod in it on ESPN Radio 1000 at like 3:15(i assume since thats when they do their intervals) and said there would be something from KW at 3:35 anyways on WSI every one tuned in to hear ESPN 1000 talking football and not even a hint of the Sox, everyone started calling the thread a hoax .. but yeah .. then i was just looking at the espn.com boards and that was there so I guess they did say it.

QUOTE(striker62704 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 09:11 PM) I think in order for LAA/Whitesox trade to happen I would think that a third team would have to be involved. How about... Whitesox Get Brian Roberts and Bedard Angels Get Kornerko and Crede Orioles Get Santana, Kendrick, Willits, Kotchman, Uribe, Masset/Aardsma, Danks, $$ ................................................................................................. Whitesox Lose Kornerko, Crede, Uribe, Masset/Aardsma, Danks Angels Lose Santana, Kendrick, Willits, Kotchman Orioles Lose Bedard, Roberts The angels would have to get something from the Orioles or it really isnt a 3 way trade .. its more a Sox trade Konerko and Crede to the Angels for Santana, Kendrick, Willits, Kotchman(which for sure they wont do) then your saying that the Sox will take what they just got for Kong and Crede and add Uribe, Masset/Aardsma, Danks, and money to get a Starting Pitcher(Bedard) and Second Basemen(Roberts)

QUOTE(joesaiditstrue @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 08:47 PM) according to someone on ESPN boards who said they heard this on ESPN Radio 1000 earlier today I just had to laugh my ass off at this trade because of how ridiculous it is: LOL yeah i posted this in this thread earlier .. it was over on WSI and everyone ripped the guy cuz no one heard it .. but i guess someone did hear it and espn 1000 may have been a bit premature and threw it out there and then they took it out .. here is the thing on the espn boards .. http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?spo...9498&lid=40

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 08:12 PM) I have a question... is there any way we can trade Dye or is his value so low that we wouldn't get much in return? I thought someone around here said he had a ntc for this season .. that sounds real weird but it might be true .. if not I still dont see what is behind the trade .. maybe deadline trade but what would be your idea of a trade with him?

Roethlisberger looks great

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 07:02 PM) The deal that was proposed on WSI; Sox sending Konerko, Crede and prospect rumor is Shelby Angels would send the Sox Figgins, Kendrick, Santana, Speier and Wilson I suppose Figgins would play CF for us. I like the Speier addition, him and Linebrink would actually be a pretty solid set-up duo, albeit they'll both be earning around 4.5M a season for the next 3 years. I would still like to find a way to acquire Reggie Willits though. Maybe offer them Danny Richar or something (not really a great need for Richar if we're going to trade for Kendrick and have him at 2B for the foreseeable future). oh that trade .. yeah I like that one very much .. if we got Willits what would you do with him? Tell him to go grab some pine next to Owens, or let him have a chance at beating out Figgins which would tarnish the overall value of the trade in the end if Figgins became nothing cuz Willits took the spot. Also are we just going to go into the season and let Pablo Ozuna coming off that fibula break be the util inf bench player? I think Richar could be elite bench specialist learning under ocab to take the SS spot from right under him. I thought about this after i posted it .. were you implying maybe putting Figgins at SS and Willits at CF? cuz after thinking about that its not a horrible idea then if A-Ram pans out he takes over for Figgins at SS in a couple years? idk speculation thats ALL this is .. sadly

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 06:56 PM) I figure one of Quentin or Swish will be 22. Quentin could wear 24 if Crede is traded since thats what he wore at Stanford. Swish wore 33 at Ohio State so ill go with 31 still

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) Now, if it's that trade, I have no problem with it. what trade are you talking about there? the Kong/Crede/Richar for Kendrick/Figgins/Santana/?? trade or something else

QUOTE(Shamrock4Life @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 06:51 PM) anybody got any idea what # he is going to be wearing? I might get him on the back of my blank jersey. beat up javy for number 33? maybe 31

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 06:15 PM) Doesn't ZIPS also have a very low opinion of the 2008 White Sox even with Swisher? I think the guy that posted the Whitesox ZIPS projections just took the Swisher one from the A's ... who knows ZIPS might have different feelings of him in a black and white uni

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 06:12 PM) Damn, I didn't know the grammar nazis were in town this weekend... Excuse me, Chamberlin. Wait, I forgot the a before the i. Chamberlain. Sometimes I type fast without thinking about the spelling. Sorry if I don't live up to your standards. gotta admit my standards were very high on you, you had a high ceiling, i am just thinking of trading you now. and you quoted the wrong thing i thought you would say something atleast about your bold prediction .. anyways I was a big fan of sweeney too, but come on let it go

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:54 PM) Then how will we compete? By trading some prospects for major league players? That's a nice theory when you actually have prospects other teams would want to trade for... how how about we bring up some prospects who can contribute a la Joba Champerlin? Oh wait, we don't have any good prospects who we could call up and make a difference. Champerlin? anyways thats a bold prediction in your sig and im 100% sure your going to wrong. you can add that to your sig

QUOTE(lostfan @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:45 PM) I just wish Fields could routinely make plays at 3B that I couldn't make. I guess it's good he isn't Ryan Braun, but damn what a significant defensive downgrade that'd be. yeah oh well when Crede came up what did everyone say, he had great defense hes gonna get everything, but where the hell is his bat. He got his bat with some experience. Fields comes here with a great power bat, and last season he made some very nice plays at 3B and at other times it was just like damn what was he thinking with that, I think he could be taught some skills at the position to make him better

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:46 PM) haha, I made a grammar mistake. I'm sorry, I wrote series instead of serious. It happens. Also, anyone who thinks a Konerko for Figgins and Santana trade is good value, you must be goofy. A guy coming off of a career year and a garbage pitcher. Sorry, that package just doesn't excite me enough. So now a 25 year old pitcher is garbage? He has had one horrible season(2007), one decent season(2005), one season where you sit back and say, yeah he could be a great contributor as a #3 or #4 pitcher(2006) Santana gives us another pitcher where we can feel a bit better abotu the rotation instead of Floyd(who can be a backup for if JC sucks it up) Figgins/Kendrick either one gives us a potent bat to add to the lineup, and many other things. But Santana in 82 career starts is 35-30 so that clearly means hes garbage, but 3 minor leaguers in our poor minors who have decent/good potential who havent done anything in the majors(granted only sweeney has had the chance) to get a player who has hit 80 homers in 3 and some change seasons should have us crying to fire kenny?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:46 PM) If it's not funner, I'll seriesly be done with the White Sox. you series

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:40 PM) It's a shame you're so series about it, because the White Sox will be a much better, funner team to watch next season, with a much more complete roster. as long as we are point out errors can i point out funner isnt a word?

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:28 PM) I'm series, if Kenny makes a Konerko for Santana and Figgins trade, I am done as a White Sox fan until after we finish behind the royals and Kenny Williams dumbass is fired. That sucks sounds like your gonna miss a fun season, win or lose. Maybe you could be an Oakland A's fan though, you can talk about how good their minors are and have fun cheering on what they call their team.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:15 PM) I think people will realize Crede is a little better than they think once he is gone, if he is healthy. But I think people will realize we had to part ways with Crede and get what we could with the way Fields came on and hopefully the numbers Fields puts up will make peopel say, yeah thats great for Crede that he is still having a good career, but we are fine with Fields.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:01 PM) I will do a complete 180 on KW if he pulls that off. starting with the slogan in your sig? heh Where else is there news about that speculated trade that chisoxfn said

QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Hurts the Illini. I really cant see them sniffing a BCS game without Mendenhall next year unless they have a solid RB backup in place I dont know of. They have Dufrene who ripped that 50 yard run or what ever it was against the Buckeyes, but yeah not much there. I was excited for Mendenhall to come back, but once I heard him say records meant nothing to him and that he had nothing to prove in college he was good as gone

QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 04:15 PM) I've always been a fan of Joe McEwing for some odd reason. probably cause he could just play anywhere and usually could hit there too

Reading the Angels board pretty surprising how much they do not know about the Sox. I mean its hard to say that obviously since Sox is our team, but 1. The first guy to say Konerko could play 3B brainwashed them all to think he can go over there no problem like he played there last season and then they say no deal unless Kon plays 3B 2. One guy said Figgins going to the Sox made sense so Figgins could play 3B and we could dump Crede (obviously some BS) since we have Fields. 3. Kotchman, as most know, did not play against LHP last season only having 73 at-bats, have the Angels come out saying that Kotchman will be a fulltime player this season going up against lefties?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 03:55 PM) I stumbled to an Angel forum and it made me so much more appreciative of Soxtalk. The posters there were saying they wouldn't deal Figgins for Konerko and that Konerko's contract is one of the worse in baseball (bahahaa, so laughable given the fact that his contract, if anything, is a steal given today's market). The best part yet is that 80% of the people said that if they traded for Paulie, they would play him at 3B. I know we are all biased in our demands but still, I don't think any of us are stupid enough to call Konerko's contract a joke or even think of putting Paulie at 3B. he hasnt played 3B since his Dodger/Reds day that would be a sight to see though a 10 year drought at a position lets throw him there and see what he does give a and call it a day

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 03:47 PM) There is no way that was said on ESPN Radio. There would have been multiple people verifying they heard it. I wish it was, but that person on WSI is flat out fooling everyone. thats for sure .. it was a nice fooling though, and nice to get excitement up heh .. anyways I would still like to get Figgins in such a deal