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QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 10:36 PM) You're kidding, right? Putz 2006: 0.919 WHIP, 36 saves 2007: 0.698 WHIP, 40 saves Dotel hasn't had a season like that since 2003, before undergoing Tommy John surgery. Putz suffered a hyperextended elbow and rib cage injury last season. Unlike reconstructive elbow surgery, neither of those are expected to affect Putz over the long-term. Dotel was 29 in 2003. Putz was 29 in 2006. That's why I said to be careful of age when comparing them, since at the same age, they had similar seasons: Dotel 2002: 0.873 WHIP, 6 saves 2003: 0.966 WHIP, 4 saves 2004: 1.184 WHIP, 36 saves Dotel also pitched in a way more hitter-friendly park during his age-comparable stretch, at a time before the steroid controversy and testing caused power numbers to drop off. QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 10:36 PM) Huh?Whoops. Meant middle and late inning relievers, not closers. My mistake. QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 10:36 PM) If he were a FA this winter, Dotel wouldn't have made anything near to the $5 million that Putz garnered. Putz is younger than Dotel and has been a MUCH better pitcher (when healthy) in recent years.The financial market certainly has something to do with that. Putz also signed his contract in 2007, not 2009. What do you think Putz would've gotten if he WAS a FA this off-season, especially considering he's not even the closer for the Mets now? Again, if you compare Putz and Dotel at the same ages, I don't think you can say Putz is/was much more talented than Dotel.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 3, 2009 -> 05:48 PM) I'm not have time to address every uninformed and incorrect assertion that you made above. What I will say is that if you think that closers and middle relievers have the same market value and that Dotel is has anywhere near Putz's talent, you have no idea what you're talking about.Actually, KHP made some valid points. Please explain how Dotel doesn't have the talent Putz has, keeping in mind the age difference. Also, generally closers and middle relievers don't have the same value as closers, but that's not really a valid point in this discussion, given the large salary difference between Dotel/Linebrink and decent closers that've hit their free agent years.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Mar 26, 2009 -> 10:19 PM) At least there aren't any Crede vs. Fields for 3rd base anymore.The hell there aren't!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 26, 2009 -> 04:26 PM) I disagree, I think he will be a very serviceable middle of the rotation starter in the near future.What makes you think this? I haven't seen Marquez pitch at all this spring, but the results in box scores haven't been very good at all.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 26, 2009 -> 03:28 PM) A lot to overcome....potentially the worst defensive team (replacing CLE) in the division, the worst baserunning (certainly the slowest) and then the complete lack of fundamentals. At least Getz has been a bright light so far, and hopefully Konerko can follow-up his hot start and approach of focusing on hitting the ball up the middle and to the right side into a good April/May start. Isn't he due for a nice season, it's an odd year? He was terrible in '03 and '07.

I say yes. Opening day is pretty special. No other day, though, unless we make the playoffs.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 21, 2009 -> 11:58 PM) No, obviously, I occasionally watch ST games but I don't watch them like they're real games nor should I. It's spring training. I don't care that much and it's silly to overreact. edit: Anderson also has had trouble with accuracy sometimes. Anderson also has 5 outfield assists this spring, so evidently he's worked on accuracy. Maybe in the past Quentin had a good arm, but he's had shoulder and wrist surgery, which certainly could have brought a good arm down to mediocre. The fact is, Quentin had 2 easy outs with even a halfway decent throw, and his throws were terrible. He needs to do better otherwise teams are going to run on him all day.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Mar 21, 2009 -> 09:42 PM) what happened to this game thread lolNot much to talk about in a spring training game when we're getting creamed and only score two runs.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 21, 2009 -> 05:28 PM) Um. what?Did you watch the game? He hit the cutoff man on a play to home on about 4 bounces, twice. Both times he could've had the runner pretty easily, and the first time the runner wasn't even around third base by the time Quentin fielded the ball. The strength might've been there, if he didn't throw it straight into the ground 10 feet to the right of where the catcher would be. Brian Anderson also threw someone out at home again today (from RF this time), on a similar play to the ones Quentin had. BA has a good arm, but not what you'd consider a prototypical RF arm. We may have to get used to Quentin playing LF, since he might not have the arm for RF anymore.

Quentin has a terrible arm.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 04:22 PM) I know how you feel, I once had a urinary tract infection where it literally felt like I was pissing fire and tiny razor blades, sometimes I get all nostalgic thinking about that too.Sounds like elrockin's nostalgic about his Uribe tract infection.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 03:53 PM) It's funny because it's true.And sad.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 03:11 PM) I think Quentin is due to go deep today.Good call!

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 03:43 PM) Ozzie will pollinate the s*** out of that.Resulting in the worst honey ever.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 03:34 PM) What a courageous sequence for Owens: Walk, SB, R.It's a rare and beautiful thing, like that flower that only blooms once every couple years and smells like rotten meat.

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) Brown hole.Ewwwww!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 03:18 PM) Burritos as big as Uribe's Butt.The structural integrity of such a burrito would be impossible to maintain, causing it to collapse in on itself, forming a black hole and killing us all.

Wow Wise is just awful.

Wise K's looking on a fastball down the middle of the plate. Awesome.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) Brandon Allen just destroyed a ball. Two-Run triple. STANDING UPHe's got some speed. Lots of people here think he could be a pretty good player for us, and I'd agree, based on what little I've seen of him.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 03:37 PM) thats really encouraging to see from josh...back up the middle on the 2 strike fastball on the outside cornerHe's got to have much better bat speed, because in '07 and '08 that would've been a K or foul to the right, not solid contact up the middle.

QUOTE (Jimmywins1 @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 03:16 PM) IP, 2 ER, 1H, 1BB for Colon. He was throwing pretty well though, seemed to have good control over the fastball and wasn't afraid to attack the hitters. Restovich may have cost him a run with some questionable routes in RF. Bart was actually elevating the fastball above the strike zone pretty consistently. That does tend to happen when you haven't thrown from a mound in a while, though. Restovich misplayed that triple, and KC didn't do much else against Bart otherwise.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 01:50 AM) That's why it's best to have Wise lead off and use BA as a late-inning defensive replacement. If the Sox decides to go with a platoon, then they can have Anderson bat 9th, (then we'd have a problem with leadoff) and we can use Wise as a late-inning pinch-hitter/pinch-runner. People are grossly undervaluing the speed Wise brings to the lineup. We have too many slow station-to-station runners that we really need some quicker guys on the bases that can potentially steal bases. Please no. Wise could barely play left field last year. I don't see how he's going to be a successful center fielder all of a sudden. Your assumption of "speed=stolen bases=good" is a little off as well, since Wise needs to actually get on base to do any running. His lifetime .254 OBP doesn't indicate he can do this, at all. Unless we put Alexei in CF, or go outside the organization, our best option (best defense, equivalent offense, best potential) is Brian Anderson.

Jerry Owens = versatile at making outs. Groundouts to second, first, AND a K looking?

Poreda looks pretty decent.