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White Sox pass.

QUOTE (G&T @ Dec 9, 2009 -> 04:42 PM) This has been a pretty boring winter meetings for most teams. It was last year too. They'd be better off waiting until January...at the very least AFTER the non-tender date.

It sounds like Kenny and Rick were in a lot of trade talks today. Something is bound to happen Wednesday.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 07:22 PM) I really can't believe there is a White Sox fan alive that wants Milton Bradley on the White Sox. I agree. And if you know anything about Kenny Williams, he's not going to bring that psycho into the clubhouse.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 05:10 PM) Do you think that Indy could be considered for a MLB team? No. They're surrounded by Cubs, Cardinals, and Reds fans. Probably a few Sox fans too.

I think Kenny was just being funny. Technically, he's not allowed to talk about Halladay since it would be tampering. They aren't supposed to discuss players already under contract.

So this thread is about Mark Gonzales? Fail.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:55 PM) Doesn't it seem like Rios playing center should be a higher priority than acquiring a leadoff hitter? I think we should acquire a RF or LF more so than a leadoff hitter. The Sox don't have a leadoff hitter right now. Unless you want Alejandro De Aza to do it.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 03:46 PM) Why do we appear to be so against the idea of playing Rios in CF? I don't think anyone is against it, per se. It's more that the Sox need a leadoff hitter, and that more than likely will be from the CF position, more than RF. If they get a LF leadoff hitter, then Rios will be in CF and Quentin will move to RF.

OK, I listened to it. They don't start talking White Sox until minute 13. First off, he's a very laid back guy. Dry sense of humor (like Robin Ventura). Wants number 24. I don't think he's got his mind on the White Sox quite yet...and that's ok. The Royals are all he's known, so I'm sure once he shows up to Glendale or maybe Soxfest that it will start to set in. Had some things to say about AJ...typical you hate him as an opponent, but love him as a teammate. Overall, it's a good listen, and he seems like a quality guy and a good interview. Now, if he can hit .275, hit 20 homers, and knock in 80 while playing an above average 3B.

Here's a 40 minute interview with Teahen. I haven't listened to it yet, but if you have the time, go for it. http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=...373&f=38675

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 02:23 PM) Holy s***! Is that really Viciedo? He looks great. And when I say that I mean he looks like he's dropped some weight. I'm thinking at least 20 pounds.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws Not sure about the headline saying Thompson is on the fast track to the majors, but whatever.

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 28, 2009 -> 12:12 PM) Perhaps he was told to say that by his lawyer. These guys were probably thinking that Congress was "railroading" them. Making them look bad in the court of public opinion, so they played it straight and refused to "narc" on each other. Until a positive test shows up, like in Bonds' or Palmeiro's case, I see no direct reason to deny McGwire. How's your vision? Mark McGwire took steroids, and there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that the feds didn't follow up on with McGwire.

Roberto Alomar Bert Blyleven Andre Dawson Jack Morris I wish I could say Mattingly was because he was so incredible for a good amount of time, but that back injury cut him short. Raines falls short in my opinion. He had seven great seasons, and then he kinda was just there. I mean, it's a real close call, but I gotta say no. Barry Larkin--He'll probably get in, but I'd probably want another year to think about it if I was a voter. Lee Smith doesn't pass the smell test with me. Relief pitching is the toughest call. I don't think Sutter belongs in there either. Edgar Martinez--no way. I really think he was a roider anyway. Part of me thinks if Ozzie Smith is in, so should Alan Trammell. I could go either way with him. McGriff and Murphy both fall a little short too. The rest--dump them, including McGwire. His only criteria is homers, and that was done by cheating. He's a piece of s***.

Yeah, if the Sox trade Alexei to Boston, it has to be for Ellsbury...otherwise I wouldn't make that trade. It has to be for an everyday player. I think Beckham would be a solid, but not great, shortstop. I know he'd like that move.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 25, 2009 -> 01:51 PM) B&B just said there's breaking news on the Sox...I think it might have something to do with Crisp. I hope not. Too soon to make that move, I think.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 02:13 PM) Is this the best we can do?? REALLY? CO CO CRISP?? .228 batting average?? Please NO! I hope we can do better... And I think they can and will do better. Nothing wrong with keeping Crisp as an option if everything else falls through. Better than last offseason where they had Jerry Owens failing again and Dewayne Wise leading off on opening day.

Some press conference video. I wouldn't be surprised if he wore #17. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws

Deal is official now.

Be patient. They need to get a couple bats and a couple bullpen arms. They will before spring training which is in three months.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 23, 2009 -> 11:37 AM) I wonder if Rice would have gotten in had he played outside of NE. I think he would have. He basically had to wait for 15 years because of spite. He was hated, and voters could always fall back on the fact he didn't play a long time. The numbers he put up in a 12-year period were really great. Rookie of the year, won an MVP, 4 other top-5 MVPs. He was always deserving.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 23, 2009 -> 11:25 AM) He won't get in. His offensive stats are nice, but the fact that he was a DH for the second half of his career probably put the nail on the coffin. If Jim Rice can get in with his stats, so can Baines. The only difference is that Rice actually played a position on the field and that matters. Rice's career was more compact. His peak numbers were over a 10-12 year period where he was clearly one of the elite run producers and feared hitters in baseball. Baines accumulated big numbers over 20+ seasons. If you're an "accumulator", you have to get to 500 homers and/or 3000 hits. Baines didn't get to either and he never got close to winning an MVP. He came in 9th once and 10th once. He just doesn't cut it as a Hall of Fame player. He got his number retired and a statue from the White Sox...that's his Hall of Fame.

His nickname should be Lumpy.