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Pierre LF Vizquel 2B Rios CF Konerko 1B M. Ramirez DH Pierzynski C Quentin RF A. Ramirez SS Morel 3B Buehrle P

But why would you be so mean to an official?

I'd prefer Pena in there for the simple fact that maybe he can show us why the hell KW traded Brandon Allen for him

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 27, 2010 -> 11:36 AM) Stanford has been slaughtering teams though. I agree, on the field they have shown they deserve the high ranking. They passed up LSU, Utah, & Arizona, none of whom I have an isse with being lower than Stanford.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 01:07 AM) How can you guys listen to that interview and not love Ozzie? I don't get it. What is there to love about him in that interview? Out of the people on this board, I like Ozzie more than most, but I still think that interview was simply to start trouble. His cockiness is getting to be a bit much.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 01:36 AM) The thing is, Hudson wouldn't have to be "this" good this year or any other year to be a valuable cog for the Sox. I personally don't feel vindicated because he's dominated since the trade. Let's say ultimately he tops out as a 3-4 starter type. That's still extremely valuable considering his cost. We don't have to have 5 numbers 1 starters. If (big if) Jackson dominates next year, then you'll REALLY have to pay him for 2012 and beyond. And we all know who his agent is. We're already stuck with Peavy, who let's face it, will be a major injury risk from this point on, Buehrle is a FA at the end of next year and we still have to lock Danks up. So yeah, there was just not a lot to like about this trade. And the fact that we stumbled miserably down the stretch and won't even sniff the Twins makes this trade an epic fail. I do agree with what you are saying. I was happy with the trade until I found out EJax was making 8.5 in 2011 then was a FA. Money is money and the Sox are not the Yankees or Red Sox. So if he doesnt take the Sox to the playoffs in 2011 then it is a major fail. If it prevents the Sox from resigning Danks to a long contract then it becomes even worse. I am just commenting on all the people that thought the Sox system was s*** and had no real prospects, then all of a sudden when Hudson goes to Arizona, people get upset at KW for trading away prospects.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 12:54 AM) Of course you can assume that, because there is a mountain of evidence that suggested that Jim Thome was going to be a good hitter this year, and there was another mountain of evidence that suggested Mark Kotsay was not going to be a good hitter. If something happens during the season and circumstances change, then it happens. But the Sox not signing Thome cost them 250% more financially and they'll end up getting 75% less playing time out of it. Is that a sound investment? The oft-overused phrase (sic) "Sometimes the moves you don't make are the best moves of all." I think we can agree that the Sox not signing Thome was one of the worst moves of all, and it's worse when you consider the bigger picture, because the Sox have not made many great moves in the past 18-24 months. Yeah, i can agree with that. you cannot count exactly how many more wins Thome would have brought, but I do know that Kotsay in the lineup will lose more games.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 12:43 AM) You need to go back to the Jackson/Hudson original trade thread. I hated this trade from day 1. And I'm not saying Hudson is CY yet. But a 7-1, 1.69 ERA in 11 starts is a little more than a simple hot streak. And the fact that the system is so bad is one of the reasons (the main one being the financial aspect) that this trade was so awful. When you're up against the wall financially, you're not in any position to trade one of the few valuable, and more importantly cheap, assets you have for mediocrity. I agree with what you are saying. I dont follow the minor leagues much, but when the trade was made, I questioned it because of the same financial obligations. That being said, I don't remember anyone thinking Hudson would be this good, most were more upset about losing his low salary, not because of his pitching dominance and the Sox minor league system was still being questioned when he was here.

Good to see that Boise St is in the NC discussion for beating a middle of the road Pac 10 team on the smurf turf...

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 12:11 AM) Which is a better sample size...4 starts straight out of the minors, or 11 starts after getting his feet wet? Hudson's a good pitcher, and all the Sox can do right now is hope that Edwin Jackson is better. I dont think it comes to down to that, I think it comes down to whether or not EJax is a stud in 2011 and helps lead the Sox to the playoffs. Thats what they got him for and gave up Hudson and his six years of cheap salary. I don't think Hudson is gonna keep up the numbers he has in ARI, but for the little $$$$ he is making, Jackson has to help the Sox make the playoffs, or its a major fail. Hudson failed in his brief audition as 5th starter when Jake went down, so KW had to make a move. However, finding a guy who is due 8.5 mil and will be a free agent is a ballsy move that he will have to answer to if/when it doesnt work ou

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 11:26 PM) I usually watch Friday Night Lights the next day online. Like hell I am waiting for the spring. League is great. Are the FNL episdoes online for free when its on Direct TV? I always wait til its on NBC, but if its available for free online during winter, hook it up.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 09:41 PM) And the Rangers clinch the West. Nolan Ryan and that front office have done a tremendous job in getting that team back to relevance after being down for a while (you could see this coming last year). They've done it with three outstanding trades and a loaded farm that's really come through for them. They better hope that Cliff Lee remembers how he used to pitch before he came to Texas, or their first playoff trip in 11 years will be worthless.

Part of the reason why baseball is so awesome is because its so hard to make the playoffs during the six month, 162 game grind. No other sport celebrates making the playoffs the way MLB players do. In any other sport, the Twins would be laughed at for their inability to advance in the playoffs. But in MLB, they are the darling for consistently winning their division.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 09:32 PM) That's like telling Kirstie Alley to skip the second helping. But yea, we're talking 11 straight really good to dominant starts. You figure a full-time starter (health being key) will make at least 30 starts in a season. So that's over a third of a typical season starts wise for Hudson. Think it's safe to say he's the real deal and Kenny and Co. made a gross mis-evaluation (much like thinking Brian Anderson was an actual baseball player). Let's discount the 6.32 ERA Hudson put up for the Sox in the AL when they were fighting for a playoff spot. I won't argue about the fact that Hudson will be due like 8-10 million over the next 6 years, while Jackson is due that much in 2011, that makes it a bad move. But plenty of pitchers have showed up to the majors with a hot streak, then been figured out and hit hard, which could happen to Hudson too, hes only 16 starts in. Its funny how everyone around here complains about how bad the Sox system is, but then when someone gets traded, they just get upset about how he good that player is and he should not have been traded.

Katy Perry on SNL in a school girl outfit....yes, please.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 11:39 PM) Wow. 17 replies on a game thread. Is that a record? Well, the win guarantees a winning season. Last night had about 5 replies. Don't discount the value of a winning season, Royals/Pirates/Orioles/Nationals fans would be ecstatic!

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 10:21 PM) I want them to lose... but then again I want them to win so it can shut other posters up who keep bringing up their record in the postseason when they've won 6 division titles in the last decade. This is actually part of the reason I always root against them. They may be built every year to beat up on the AL Central, but the fact they can't win a series in the playoffs means it is all just bulls*** in the end.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 25, 2010 -> 01:44 AM) It's listed in order of position, not in a lineup form. It was supposed to be a joke, but now that I look at it that way, I'm the idiot.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 09:59 AM) I was just flipping through one of my notebooks from freshman year and saw this written down: AJ Konerko Missle Uribe O-Cab Dye Griff Swish Thome BA Q Hall Is it sad that a part of me was like, "Ah, those were the good old days?" How much were you drinking freshman year? AJ leading off? PK second? Thome 9th? Great lineup you got there.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Sep 23, 2010 -> 02:26 PM) Bautista is gonna hit like 13 next year. I have to disagree with that for the simple fact that he hit 10 last September/October after hitting 3 the previous 5 months. I think he actually figured something out with his swing that has helped him hit his 52 homers. (Or he is on HGH?)

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 11:05 PM) Except for the Bulls, Chicago has had a tough time keeping it going after a wonderful moment. Hopefully the Blackhawks can keep winning. Are the Hawks expected to continue dominating after the offseason switches? It's kind of funny they let the goalie who won it all walk. Its easy to keep it going when you have Michael Jordan. The Bears should have had more success but it turns out Da Coach wasn't as good as everyone in Chicago claims he is. The Blackhawks have 5 of their best players signed for at least the next 5 years, I wouldn't worry about them and their rookie goalie walking away, who had the best defense in front of him. No offense to Antti, he can play, but the Hawks defense was incredible.

I've only watched about 5 to 10 minutes of the first two preseason games, but this Byfuglien trade might be one of the best trades in Hawks history. Morin can f***ing play and hes only 19...wow.

QUOTE (since56 @ Sep 24, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) I think our pitching staff is way over rated. The bullpen really gave it up the second half and aside from Danks was any starter lights out. Buerhle can't get the pith over 85mph -True, his lack of velocity has kept him from being a consistent MLB pitcher for the last 10 seasons Floyd is inconsistent and seems to fold under pressure - I agree with that Garcia-see Buerhle - Doesn't have the stuff he use to, but as a fifth starter he has been servicable. He had the velocity before surgery Jackson 4 teams in 4 years. because he is so good? 9 starts, 3.18 ERA, because he is so good???? Peavey, c'mon - A Cy Young award, C'monWhere is the true number one? Aside from Danks it is a staff of 4th and 5th starters. - The true number one's lat randomly ripped off. Then there is the bullpeh---yikes! - The bullpen went through a bad streak right when they needed to step up but 29 other teams would kill to have Thornton on the team and Putz will find a nice contract on the offseason. No comment on Bobby, but the bullpen was good, but slumped at the worst time