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QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 12:43 PM) Adam Laroche just cleared waivers, what are we waiting for? Link: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/08/adam...rs-waivers.html His 2010 contract is $4.5 million, so thats about $1.5 he is still owed this season. $7.5 mutual option next season (9.5 if traded) or a $1.5 million buyout. So at the worse he would cost you about $3 million. Why the f*** wouldn't you claim him? If you get "stuck" with him, it doesn't really hurt you financially and he always mashes in the second half. There's gotta be a reason why nobody claimed him. As surprised as I am that the Sox didn't, I'm just as surprised that no other contender did either. The Braves? Red Sox? Rays?

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 12:03 PM) This is a message forum; I was expressing an opinion. You have confidence that the White Sox will win the next two games, I take it. Is this, perhaps, setting up one of those "real fans" rants? I have seen nothing from this team to indicate they are capable of doing what it takes to beat the Twins head to head, outside of a pure fluke. I think the team showed me yesterday that they are more than capable of beating the Twins. Getting down 4-0 in the first, then coming back, tying it up in the 9th, taking a lead in the 10th. They lost because their best reliever threw one awful pitch. It happens.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 12:00 PM) Trib says Cubs about to trade D-Lee to the Braves. Sounds like he will waive the no-trade clause. It turns out saying no to the Angels had nothing to do with his family, and everything to do with wanting to play for a team that was actually gonna make the playoffs.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 12:01 PM) Because those numbers should be nothing but coincidental. L/R splits makes sense. Home/Road splits even mean something to some degree. But Day/Night really doesn't hold any weight. In 4 of his 5 full seasons, his ERA has been higher during the day than at night. In the last 2 seasons, the difference has been over 3.20 in 2009, and 7.00 higher in 2010. How does that not hold any weight?

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 10:41 PM) Games that stick out in Sox-Twins lore for me in no order: 1. Jose Paniagua (we actually won that though) 2. Jamie Burke getting laid out 3. Game 163 4. Last Thursday 5. Tonight Jacque Jones ruining Freddy's no-hitter with a homer, Sox lose 1-0

The next coure of action should be to win tonight and tomorrow night and head to KC 2 games back. And also bean Delmon Young in the f***ing face. AJ wasn't even in the basepath and he still ran straight at him aiming for his head. Bush league s***.

Konerko

Alexei

Heard this on B & B today: Bryce Harper, 1st overall pick, just signed a 5 year/$9.9 million major league contract. In 2007, Jeff Samardzija, 5th round pick, signed a 5 year/$10 million major league contract. 2 years left on that contract, so far they have gotten 65.2 innings of 5.89 ERA baseball.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 05:04 PM) I kinda disagree. We only started really understanding it a few years ago with the retiring/unretiring shenanigoats. There have been an awful lot of reports to come out of Green Bay about how he was really getting to be a primma donna there, especially in the last few years when they had a younger team around him. The best example I can give is the report that he basically wound up with his own private locker room at Lambeau so he didn't have to hang around the rest of the team. I don't doubt that his primma donna days started up north. He's probably the most popular person in Green Bay's history, so I'm sure he did what he wanted up there. I meant more that he didn't show that side of him to the public until recently with his "retired/unretired/avoiding training camp" nonsense.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 03:40 PM) Say what now? Old man had one of his best seasons at age 40 last year. Dude's legacy only grew in my mind. His playing legacy is great and has only improved. It's his attention-whoring personality and legacy of being a d-bag drama queen thats getting worse every season. That only started a few seasons ago too.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) Sorry, but when your ball lands in-bounds, within a kidney-shaped collection of sand/silt/fine dirt of that size, I think you have to at least consider the possibility that you might be in a "sand trap" and maybe ask one of the umpteen marshalls or rules officials within 50 feet of you for a ruling to be sure. That is, if you haven't read one of the several memos that were provided to the players and posted in the locker room which explained the point exactly. I feel sorry for the guy, but he screwed the pooch himself on this one. I do give him credit for how he handled himself afterwards, though. I agree, and let's not forget that he just needed a par on 18 and proceeded to biff his drive into the crowd in the first place.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 01:15 PM) Freddy Garcia 2010 = Orlando Hernandez 2005? Daniel Hudson 2010 = Brandon McCarthy 2005??? Oh, wait a second....

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 12:45 PM) What?? You mean the same GM that was willing to bring back Thome, but Ozzie said no? Ozzie was the person who towards the end of last season, he said re-signing Kotsay was the team's top priority as soon as the season ended. In the end, KW is the general manager and he is allowed to make his own decisions. Ozzie may have been the one who convinced him to not take Thome, but KW still gets all the credit or the blame for personnel moves.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) They draft well and develop well. And when someone gets hurt, they plug in someone else and not miss a beat. I think this is one of the biggest keys. Whether its a hitter in the lineup, a starter in the rotation, or someone in the bullpen, they always seem to have a replacement that can keep the team going. The Sox seem to always have trouble filling those empty spots. The Twins worst players are usually cheap veterans they tried to sign to fill those holes (especially 3B) and end up sucking. Once they throw a young player from the minors in there, its back to business.

I think I'd be fine with Ozzie sticking around longer. I think with the teams he has had, he has done alright. Do I agree with all the decisions he makes? No, but that will happen with any manager and I don't think he's the baseball idiot that many around here believe. That being said, are there other managers I'd rather have? Yeah. If they could sign one of the top guy to replace him, would I be for it? Sure, but I don't think he should be fired just to be fired, I think he's done a good job overall.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 10:08 AM) If I was an NL GM ia would invest everything in pitching and build an enormous park...see Padres, San Diego What's crazy is that their road record is 34-25. Their home record of 36-22 is pretty much standard as compared to other good teams' home records.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 05:50 PM) At least we will know a lot more after Thursday. If they sweep us, they pretty much are the darlings of baseball this year along with the Rangers. Twins - 5 playoff appearances since 2002 & lost a game 163 in '08 Rangers - 0 playoff appearances since 2000 & bankrupt

I'm in! The sweep starts today!!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 09:29 AM) When you look at the years though...in 2004, the Sox were without their 2 biggest bats for the full 2nd half of the year. 2005, check. 2007...they were a bad team the full year, and Hell, they might have been better in September than they were at any other point that yera. 2008, above .500. Basically, it comes down, so far, to 2006 and 2009 being the years where they were unusually bad in the 2nd half. In 2009, they were 45-43 in the 1st half, then 34-40 in the 2nd half. Thats only 4 full games worse, so yeah they played worse, but its not like they were a great team that suddenly collpased like in 2006.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 09:08 AM) Who has the highest ERA and WHIP this season among active Giants' starting pitchers? If you answered two-time Cy Young winner Tim Lincecum, you'd be correct. (Bumgarner only has 10 starts to his credit, and Wellemeyer was brutally awful and is no longer on the 40-man roster, but it's still crazy to think about) Bumgarner's ERA & WHIP is lower than his anyway. It is surprising, but its not like the rest of their staff are a bunch of slouches either.

Teahen

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 02:45 PM) Because they don't. Barton is at 22nd and Pennington is at 27th. Beyond that, both have been good defensively this year and both have been solid offensively. Barton may not hit for much power (35 XBHs and 5 HR in 497 PAs), but he gets on base a ton, and getting on base is the biggest part of scoring runs. Cliff Pennington isn't a special player by any means, but he's OK offensively (.334 OBP and he's hit for enough power to keep his OPS over .700), good defensively, and he plays a premium defensive position. On top of that, both have played quite a bit...Pennington has played in 110 and Barton in 113 of the Athletics' 116 games. Barton has only played 3 more games than Pennington, but has 80 more plate appearances, and that difference is largely because he has hit 2nd for most of the year, whereas Pennington has hit 9th for most of the season. This is all pretty much the same exact reasoning as to why Alexei Ramirez has the highest WAR on the White Sox (among offensive players), even though Alex Rios has had a great season and Paul Konerko has quite easily been the Sox best offensive player. Alexei has played phenomenal defense this year, has been a pretty good hitter (though he hasn't gotten on base much of the time), and he's played almost every game (114 of 118), and he's done it playing SS, which is a much more difficult position to find good offensive players. And, because he's played as much as he has and as well as he has defensively, he's been the 3rd best SS in the entire game, even with his relatively mediocre offensive numbers. The rankings I had were only for hitters on baseballreference.com. If Alexei is so good at defense, I can't see how Pennington has a higher WAR, when most of his offensive numbers are worse than Ramirez's, other than OBP and SBs. Konerko's (3.8) WAR is higher than Alexei's (2.7) from what I can gather on that site.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 02:28 PM) Top two AL Cy Young candidates? Probably, although Jon Lester should probably be in the conversation as well.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 14, 2010 -> 01:50 PM) I wish I had somebody explain WAR to me when I first came upon it... http://saberlibrary.com/misc/war/ My only question about WAR is how the f*** does Cliff Pennington have the 18th highest WAR in the AL & Daric Barton has the 20th highest?