LittleHurt05

What a series. Sox give away game 1 with their SP, Cubs give away game 3. Too bad the Sox blew Peavy's gem in game 2.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 06:43 PM) Horry was as close to great as you could get. He was Pippen-lite He was Pippen without the migraine.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 06:57 PM) 2-3 days Valverde will miss according to ESPN. Also, hopefully this causes him to start to struggle, but it looks like Masterson has found his ace stuff again. START to struggle? have you been watching him all season?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 06:25 PM) It's not like Horry was a great player, plus he was a rookie in 94. 7 titles, Q. SEVEN Titles! His Wikipedia page has its own section just for all the clutch shots he hit.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 05:48 PM) The Padres literally gave up on Simon Castro last year and the Sox are trying to rebuild him. It would make very little sense for them to want him back. That was a joke.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) He had clyde didnt he? Only for the 2nd title. But he had Big Shot Bob for both titles, so that automatically disqualifies him from this discussion.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 05:29 PM) When you consider how many games they lost in a row at home, it was historical. It was like our 4-18 stretch in April/May of 2011 that for all intents and purposes wiped out our season and attendance for the remainder of the year. To weather that storm in the beginning of the season and still be outdrawing the White Sox handily when they're the smallest market in baseball (fanbase and media rights), they've shown some strong resiliency. Keep in mind, the White Sox had been in first place for over 3 weeks before last night. Look at the Royals' attendance in that first half of 2003, you'll see a HUGE effect just that season. Or whenever Zach Greinke was pitching for them. Do we even have an appreciable blip up for Chris Sale starts? And games won doesn't matter so much in our division as taking the division. You could conceivably have an 84-85-86-87 win team it this year. Probably not, as we said the same last year and Tigers just took off and crushed everyone down the stretch run, but it's possible this year again. And as I said, their outstanding farm system hasn't earned them more than 75 wins or even a 3rd place finish in the past 8 seasons. Their attendance is not even at 60% capacity. And I don't know what White Sox attendance has to do with this argument anyway. Sox fans are very, very fair weather, especially since their city has another team with a "historic" stadium to which tourists and baseball fans flock religiously. Better attendance than the Sox is not hard to do.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 05:14 PM) It would be nice. However, I do not think we have the bullets. If you were Josh Byrnes, what would you want in return? Perdo Hernandez & Simon Castro should get it done.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 05:12 PM) That's instructive, at least. Despite them being the worst team in the majors at home, their many offseasons of hype, high draft choices and farm system prospect features had the fans buying in more than ever before this past offseason. They're outdrawing us by 2,000 fans despite how badly they started out of the gate. Last year, they would have been dead in the water. This year, they're right in it and have a great chance to make a run. Fans in Kansas City are so similar to White Sox fans in being fair weather fans, but they do have a beautiful ballpark and reasonably priced parking/tickets/concessions, so that's another factor. Their average attendance has increased from 21,290 to 22,647, WOW! They have had 3 night games this month with under 20k in attendance. They are on pace to win 74 games, they haven't won more than 75 since 2003.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 05:12 PM) And kudos go to the Tigers and Brewers for changing the operating models of those franchises and modeling themselves as much as possible after the Cardinals. Are you freaking kidding me? Their owner is gonna die in a few years and he wants a championship so bad that he is willing to spend as much money as possible to finally get that ring. How is that anything like the Cardinals? It is way more like the Sam Zell Cubs.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 04:34 PM) Yeah, well, if we had such a solid farm system we probably would be finishing in last every year. Those are usually the teams with the great farm systems. GO ROYALS!!!!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 03:42 PM) It is betting odds, which means who people bet on is what determines the odds. Lots of Yankees fans in that group. I forgot about that, duh. Sabathia is probably on there at 3-1 for the same reason the Cubs odds to win the WS are always so low

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 01:29 PM) There's no doubt in my mind that last year's terrible and unlikable team has had an impact on the fan base. If the Sox can stay in contention all year, it would really help the excitement surrounding the organization. Exactly. And it takes more than a few weeks in 1st place in a s***ty division to increase that excitement. Looking at 2005 attendance, it really didn't take off until late June, and that team was 15-20+ games over .500 with nearly a ten game divisional lead.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 02:29 PM) He is not a very good lefty reliever anymore. He's fine. Not very good. And not worth what he is being paid. And Youkilis is? His OPS in June is lower than Orlando Hudson's. Since last July, he has been physically breaking down and sucking at baseball.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 02:26 PM) He won't hit, but he will field, which would be an improvement. Exactly. If Hudson isn't gonna hit either, I'd much rather take the plus defense.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 01:35 PM) Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan Bovada's odds to win AL Cy Young: Sabathia 3/1, Verlander 9/4, Price 5/1, Sale 11/2, Darvish 6/1, Harrison 13/2, Rodney 12/1. Sabathia??? LOL at Fernando f***ing Rodney. (I realize he is deserving, it's just funny.)

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 12:51 PM) So the Sox won't have the cash to bring in Youk. There goes the playoffs. That's good news. A reason to keep attendance low.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 12:34 PM) Lower box in the corner is only $105 right now on the Sox website. Gee, I wonder why they don't sell out? I know last year, the Sox had the 4th highest tickets in baseball, behind NYY, BOS, & Cubs. It's funny how that is never mentioned when attendance is brought up. A fanbase that has proven to be fair weather has to deal with expensive tickets.

One of the jurors called in sick on the last day. Her replacement is a recent PSU grad, Sandusky spoke at her graduation. Combined with Sandusky not testifying, can't help but sense something shady in the air.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 10:38 PM) As much as I respect PK, and would like to see him finish his career in a Sox uniform, in the right deal that he approves, you gotta pull the trigger. What? first Ozzie, then Mark, now Paulie? How dare you. don't you remember 2005? nobody wins titles in Chicago, nobody

WTF happened to James Harden? He might be the reason OKC loses this series

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 10:30 PM) THAT WAS NOT A FOUL ON DURANT. I'M SO TIRED f***ING FLOPPING. looked like a foul to me, had his arm wrapped up

Hudson is taking the blame: Scott Merkin‏@scottmerkin Hudson: "I lost the game for the man, that’s it. The man threw a hell of a game, I lost it for him ... Point blank. Case closed. We lost. My bad. That’s it.”

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 10:27 PM) HOW WAS DURANT NOT FOULED THERE?! Why are they not showing the replay?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 10:23 PM) In all fairness to Hudson, he's playing out of position. His pop up with the bases loaded an one out was at least close to as bad as his throw, and you can throw blame at him for that. All the mess ups at 3B, that's on KW and the White Sox. The guy isn't a thirdbaseman. That's a very good point that is seldom mentioned.