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QUOTE (fathom @ May 17, 2011 -> 07:47 PM) What did Ramirez do? No surprise that Danks has bad stuff again....the 0 wins has definitely gotten to him mentally. Bobbled a soft roller to him after Danks walked the bases load with 2 outs. Couldnt even get a throw off

LOL at Hawk "Well, I hope someone gets underneath this one"

Ugh, Alexei.

Wow Alexei, great pitch selection, try and make it easier for them next time.

Only 1 run after that start, I'll take it. Hafner 3-run double, 3-0 Tribe already

QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ May 17, 2011 -> 05:46 PM) Danks would be 6-0 on the Yankees, his future team. For sure. Freddy Garcia (2-3) & CC (3-3) both have ERAs a run less than Danks has, and look at their records.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 17, 2011 -> 03:55 PM) I would love to see the White Sox batting average in the first inning. .250 right around their season average of .246

I guess I am just taking all the numbers a little too literally, but when you say that a player is worth his 5 year, $65M contract in one season, I can't help but question how off base that sounds IMO.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 17, 2011 -> 03:05 PM) Knicks were still at salary cap. I just really cant think of examples where a team in a league with a salary cap has spent drastically lower than the cap for multiple seasons. Imo it usually seems that all teams spend to the cap. The NHL. They had to institue a cap floor to force teams to spend a minimum amount of money on salary.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 17, 2011 -> 01:07 PM) Anyone know what is on fire on the west side of Chicago? You can see black smoke rising up just south of the Ike a few miles outside of downtown. It past Rush Hospital to the west and little more south. Industrial park around the 4700 block of W. Roosevelt is what the Trib says

Big 10/ACC Challenge Tuesday, November 29 Miami at Purdue Northwestern at Georgia Tech Illinois at Maryland Michigan at Virginia Clemson at Iowa Duke at Ohio State Wednesday, November 30 Indiana at NC State Penn State at Boston College Florida State at Michigan State Virginia Tech at Minnesota Wake Forest at Nebraska Wisconsin at North Carolina

I get the premise and am not trying to turn this into some huge deal. I still just think it's funny to say a player is worth financially almost double the largest contract given ever in baseball. Money is such a big deal in constructing teams, so I think it should be kept in such realistic terms. The base stat WAR makes much more sense, it's not exactly wins in the standings, but it's close enough. That being said, I can agree Bautista has turned himself into a Pujols/Bonds type hitter, clean or not.

Lillibridge - LF Ramirez - SS Dunn - DH Konerko - 1B Quentin - RF Pierzynski - C Rios - CF Beckham - 2B Morel - 3B Danks - LHP

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 17, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) They're just trying to get more fans to show up to the game. I mean look at that guy's name. "DALLAS MCPHERSON" He sounds like a superstar! porn star!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 17, 2011 -> 01:11 PM) Problem is...there's a risk inherent in every contract that the player won't repeat that ridiculous season the next year, and that risk gets priced into the deal. I understand that and I guess that's part of my issue. This perceived value doesn't take any of that risk in to account or any other real financial issues into account. Money in baseball is very real, as are payroll limitations and everything else. Something's worth is what someone is willing to pay for it, and no baseball team is willing to pay a player $65 million for one season. Put it this way: Say that he does continue this torrid pace and finishes this season worth the value of his entire contract. Then the next 4 years, he falls apart, and is nothing more than an average player. Do you think the Blue Jays will be happy with the deal? "He was worth the whole value in the first season, so never mind his average performance over the next four seasons when we still paid him $56 million" I doubt it.

LOL, classic. Ozzie did say that Dayan needs to play everyday and he doesn't seem to want to bench Pierre yet.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 17, 2011 -> 12:50 PM) The AP just ran with a ridiculously detailed accounting of the raid, the decision, and even the equipment involved. Thought this part was bad ass:

QUOTE (3E8 @ May 17, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) You're right. Baseball teams are always paying their players exactly in accordance with their true value. Just ask Zito, Soriano, or Wells. Well yeah, some players are overpaid, some are underpaid. Bautista is definitely more than earning his contract, I'm not doubting that. I understand how the statistic works. I just think it's ridiculous if it just projects numbers that are incredibly unrealistic. He was so good this year, he should have made $65 million in one year. Then why doesn't his agent hold out next season and ask for that much? He's worth that much, right?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:57 AM) They would be silly not to pay him $30 million. The numbers he is putting up are comparable to Bonds and Pujols. He is really f'ing good. Considering how few teams seem willing to pay Pujols $30 million, I don't see how Bautista would definitely get that much.

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:25 AM) Barry Bonds had a couple of seasons where he was worth a good $40-$50 million and deservedly so. He was the best offense you can buy. Then why was his highest salary less than half of that? How can you be worth a contract that nobody in the history of baseball has ever earned?

QUOTE (3E8 @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:35 AM) Why is it funny. Year after year, teams pay about four and a half million on the free agent market per win. If I had said a guy on pace for a 1 WAR season and subsequently a $4.5M value, you wouldn't have batted an eye. A player producing 15 times that (not that Bautista will be there at the end of the season, it's just his current pace) would be worth 15 times as much. Because the highest paid player in baseball makes $32 million, which is less than half of Bautista's "value". No one would even pay Bautista $30 million right now if he was a FA, how could he be worth over double that?

Passed away this morning, RIP

One more episode left of Chicago Code. (I know no one else watches). It really picked up and is getting pretty intense. It should be an entertaining finale.

QUOTE (3E8 @ May 17, 2011 -> 09:20 AM) When I declared Bautista would be worth his new $65M contract, I must admit even I did not think he would provide that value in ONE SEASON (currently on pace for 15.4 wins, over $70M). LOL at any stat that puts a player's worth at $70M for one season.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 16, 2011 -> 08:28 PM) HIMYM with the most predictable season finale ever. The second Lilly started puking, I called that she was pregnant. QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 17, 2011 -> 09:05 AM) Also, I think this means the show is almost over. Barney's character is what makes this show. So unless there's a long lead-up to the wedding I don't see how this show can last much longer. It's signed on for two more seasons, so it's gonna have to last somehow. It was a great show for a while, but I think it's definitely run its course. Just show us who the f***ing mother is already!