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QUOTE (greg775 @ May 18, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) You know what I say to that ... bull s***! Then if it is so easy why haven't any other chicago teams won s*** in the past 100 years??? You people who think anybody could have led us to that incredible postseason run are just plain nuts. If it was so f***ing easy then why did none of our other playoff teams reach the WS? Or the Cubs playoff teams with incredible Lou? Ozzie is a White Sox Hall of Famer. Deal with it. When was the last time any of the past managers had a team that pitched THAT well with a bullpen that was nearly that untouchable?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 18, 2010 -> 03:22 PM) At one point, Fredit sat down next to Hanley and tried to talk to him. Hanley wouldn't even look him in the eye. Dan Uggla tried to downplay the entire thing in a post-game interview, but you could tell even he was frustrated. And i saw the replay, Hanley really did loaf. He tried to write it off as the product of being hit by a ball earlier in the game, but Ross got nailed even harder in that game, and went balls out out on a sinking liner an inning later. It seems like there always has to be a Ramirez in baseball that's a lazy ass, but is also extremely talented at hitting.

Hanley literally showed up Gonzalez, what an ass hole.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 18, 2010 -> 02:51 PM) He also had to go through 3 closers, the return and then departure of Frank, and a nearly disastrous collapse. He doesn't deserve all the credit, but does does deserve some. And he was fortunate enough to have two of those closers be really, really good. As many bad things Ozzie dealt with that year, he had far more good things happen to him.

Watch Ozzie bring in Randy Williams for Damon if Jackson gets on...

Just throw Tony Pena out there for the 9th.

Well, it has to come sooner or later. You're not going to abuse somebody like Thornton for so many years and not expect him to get hurt, even if his mechanics are nearly flawless.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 18, 2010 -> 02:24 PM) Stuck in the 80s? We won it all in 05 with him at the helm. Oh I forgot, he did nothing to help us win the WS. Anybody could have led that team to the title. Tell that to every other Chicago baseball team trying to win a title in oh, one century. You must mean stuck in the 04s. Give just about any other decent manager that team again with all those guys who had career years and the best pitching staff in all of the AL with a great defense and they'll do just as well as Ozzie did. Ozzie was simply in the right situation. He does deserve credit for that World Series, don't get me wrong. But with the players he had and the luck he ran into with so many career years, it's hard to give him credit as being a good manager. And he still is living in the 80s. Anybody who wants to DH Omar Vizquel or Juan Pierre has no idea what the hell he's doing. It might not have mattered in 1982 who the hell your DH was, but it does now.

I think Alexei has reverted to swing at everything like he did in 08. Except this time, he's not making any kind of good contact.

That's a home run in just about every other park...

How close was Nix's ball to being gone?

Zumaya threw nothing but fastballs this outing. It may be fast, but if they're just fastballs, you're going to get hit.

Only Ozzie would keep Jayson Nix in the dog house for no reason at all.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 18, 2010 -> 02:17 PM) Phil Coke's new picture on gameday reminds me of Bobby Higginson It's scary.

By now, I've learned not to be impressed at all by Carlos until he gets above .250.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 18, 2010 -> 02:15 PM) Did AJ double or single? How did Rios get on? Error by LF. You have to wonder how long Zumaya can go without yet another shoulder surgery. He seems to be really unsustainable when it comes to injuries.

Come on Q, we need that 5th run. Don't suck.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 18, 2010 -> 02:06 PM) Nobody reads anybody's posts carefully. I said take away Oz's pseudo GM role. If you think he should be fired for wanting stiffs like Kotsay and Pierre and Omar and getting his wish, by all means fire him. Definitely listen to Oz no more if you are the personnel decision man, but leave him as manager. Lots of coaches/managers also wanna be GM. It's not a good idea. If Jerry, etc., think Oz's role in making the roster is enough to fire him, go for it. But I'm saying he's a good enough manager. Ozzie may be great at dealing with the media, keeping some players happy, etc, but he's too damn stubborn to last in this business. The game is at the point where it is moving forward. And Ozzie's still stuck back in in the 1980s. So whatever good he's done off the field is at best being canceled for what he's done on the field.

That's twice now that they've dodged the bullet with Cabrera.

This umpire doesn't like to call the outside corner.

QUOTE (Allsox @ May 18, 2010 -> 02:03 PM) This umpire crew for today blows. Santos is getting squeezed badly here, he's not missing by much. GameDay says the last pitch to Jackson was a strike.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 18, 2010 -> 01:55 PM) Zeke obviously you think we have good players; I don't. You can shuffle the deck all you want. The lineup sucks no matter who is batting where, no matter if Omar plays or sits. I disagree with everything you said; you disagree with everything I say. I'm telling you. When your team loses, you can second guess every Oz decision or any manager's decision. Jerry Reinsdorf is a logical man. He realizes these things and you Oz haters are stuck with him. Oz rocks! Now we know why managers/coaches get paid the big bucks. When they've been around a while, the masses turn on them. Kudos to Bobby Cox, Gregg Popovich, Jerry Sloan, LaRussa and guys like that who shut their fans up, survived the "fire the manager" cliche when things got bad and stuck around a long time. I don't think he does. I don't either. But the thing is, who wanted Juan Pierre and Mark Kotsay? Who needed Randy Williams on this team so he can play his lefty/righty matchups? It's Ozzie, that's who. Now we can all blame KW for listening to Ozzie, but the thing is, he's the one who wanted a team like this and it hasn't worked out.

Freddy's been worth the $1 million option so far.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 17, 2010 -> 04:39 PM) This team would never get on-base. "Guys, go up there and swing at EVERYTHING." "What if i want to take a pitch, AJ? You know, work an at-bat?" "Then i'll punch you in the f***ing face, Nix. What do you think? Holy crap, man. You're lucky i let you out of your cage. Stop pushing your luck. And go out there and swing like a man, p****." This is perfect, because Jayson Nix would be the one to get yelled at for being too patient... Or Mark Teahen, except Teahen usually strikes out on full counts.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 17, 2010 -> 09:20 PM) T. Moore is a very respected journalist who's very involved with NBA happenings. He's talking about conspiracy theories in the article though... About how LeBron requested to change his number for next year.