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I think this sets up Holliday with a 5-6 year deal at $17-18 million per. Simply because, Holliday > Bay.

They have a nice core on offense with Wright, Beltran, Reyes, and now Bay. Thing is, they have no pitching. They have a bunch of middle of the rotation starters and nothing at the back end. Their rotation is like the Twins', but with a lot less depth.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 29, 2009 -> 11:42 AM) Anybody else hear Jaws say 22 of 25 Cutler's INTS were Jay's fault??? I know I may be a bit of a Cutler apologist, but I could swear there were more than 3 that were either on the receiver, somebody slipped, or no PI call... I'd say at least 5 weren't his fault. A more liberal estimate would be 7-8. If that was the case, he'd have 18-19 picks this year, nothing too high above his career norm.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 29, 2009 -> 12:10 AM) Honestly...probably is, only competition could be finally ridding this team of Turner and possibly Lubbs Attn Lubbie: Your timeouts do not carry over. Its a f***ing disgrace when you end a game with 3 timeouts (1 called for stupidity). Tired of his p**** football, keep playing it safe lubbs, its workin I'm tired of his mental lapses when it comes to timeouts and challenges. You know, for a conservative coach, he certainly uses timeouts and challenges liberally and stupidly.

Devin Aromashodu - damn he was good. Maybe Hester getting hurt and getting Aromashodu playing time might have been the best thing to happen to the Bears this year.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Dec 28, 2009 -> 12:48 PM) By now you likely have seen targetview, but if not, it's rather cool. http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/10/6...argetview-graph That looks awesome. If they can actually develop a graphing system where it would show a player's supposed range (like over a 3-5 year span), much like in those graphics, it would be excellent.

Guerrero.

QUOTE (Ranger @ Dec 27, 2009 -> 04:37 PM) I disagree. The Sox allowed 732 runs last year, second fewest in the American League. That 29.4 runs is only 4% of all the runs they allowed last year. I don't believe that's significant. Furthermore, you're assuming the Sox outfield did, in fact, cost them 29.4 runs last year. Do we know that for sure? Since at this point in time defense is incredibly difficult to quantify, I can't be confident that the number is correct anyway. Maybe it was less (maybe it was even more than that in reality), I just don't think it can be measured. I understand the value of the statistic, I just can't accept it to be as undebatable as OPS, BA, OBP or any other offensive stat. It gives you an idea. You can't put an exact number on it, but when your team is in the negative 30 range, you know it's bad. Of the 732 runs the Sox gave up last year, 655 were earned. The team's ERA was 4.16. If we subtract the 29 runs that the outfield cost the pitching staff from the earned runs, that's a ERA of 3.98. It's not the biggest difference in the world, but that's nearly a .2 run difference, significant enough I'd say.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2009 -> 04:22 PM) The White Sox lost the division last year by 7 games and were farther back in the Wild Card. Your own numbers suggest that the OF defense hurt us, but it didn't kill us. Those games could have made it closer, but not put us in front. What I said there was not pointed directly at the 2009 White Sox. When I said it could make a good team into a great team, I meant something along the lines of a improvement from 89 to 93 wins or 90 to 94 wins. Or maybe even a 86-87 win team into a 90 win team. In other words, the difference between a mediocre outfield defense and a horrible outfield defense is 3-4 wins, which in many cases can be the difference in staying home for the playoffs or playing in the ALDS.

QUOTE (Ranger @ Dec 27, 2009 -> 01:43 PM) I didn't say they were good, I just said I don't think it killed them last year. It depends on your definition of "killing". The Sox had one of the worst outfield defenses in baseball last year. Pods, Quentin, and Dye were all negatives in UZR, with Dye being a -20. When you're a -20, there's no need to explain why Dye was an absolutely horrendous outfielder. Pods, as bad as he looked, isn't as bad as some people here think he is. Some here probably think he's worse than Dye, which is obviously not the case. Pods isn't good, but he's not horrendous either. Quentin was a below average outfielder due to his foot problems last year, I think we can cut him a little slack. Wise, given his small amount of playing time, was probably our best defensive outfielder last year. He was even better than Anderson. Rios was slightly above average in CF (although UZR did not say this). Kotsay didn't play much, but when he did, he was mediocre. So basically, you have three guys who were negative in value, one mediocre in a small sample size, and three above average in a combined medium sample size. The overall UZR of these White Sox outfielders last year was -29.4. I don't care how flawed UZR might be, but if your outfielders supposedly cost your pitchers 29.4 runs last year, that's killing the team. When your outfield defense costs you 3 win shares (it would have been about 4.5 if Wise wasn't here), you need to correct that. Now, with the current defensive outfield alignment, we can expect something a whole lot better. Rios can be at least an average center fielder, if not an above average one. Pierre is an above average left fielder. Quentin, if healthy, can be a slightly below average right fielder. All three combined can possibly post a UZR around 0-5 together. That's a huge improvement from last year. You also have Jones and Kotsay on the bench who can play the outfield. Those two together should yield a 0 UZR if not a slightly negative one. So basically, you've improved your outfield defense by 3-4 wins. That in itself could be the difference between a great team and a good one.

This and recently, the MLBTR one. Only because I like making fun of stupid trade ideas.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2009 -> 05:07 PM) J4L, #7 was spot on! Great pick! I remember that one pretty well. PAULIE PAULIE PAULIE PAULIE!

QUOTE (SexiAlexei @ Dec 24, 2009 -> 07:58 PM) Is it possible to still get a copy of this? I hope you realize that it's not real... If you want, you can always blow it up and print it.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Dec 24, 2009 -> 09:13 PM) The only reason why I said Crede was a downgrade over Teahen is because of Crede's propensity of getting hurt. One awkward movement, Crede's back is messed up. If anyone hurt their back, they know how much it can affect your range. For that reason alone, I'd rather not have Crede back no matter what. Crede's defense is no longer as stellar as is was in 2005, either. It might actually be better. Don't know how, but that's what the stats say.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Dec 24, 2009 -> 06:38 PM) Crede was exceptional defensively last season. He just looked great out there. Crede had the second highest uzr/150 of all third baseman with over 1/3 of there games played at the position. His uzr/150 was 23.4 while posting a uzr of 12.5 in the 84 games played last season. Only jack hannahan posted a better uzr/150 at 27.7. I'm pretty sure Hannahan's UZR/150 was actually in a small sample size. Crede was easily one of the best defensive 3B in all of baseball last year. He's up there with Longoria and Zimmerman.

Low risk move for Oakland. He would have been a good pickup if we didn't stumble upon Freddy a gain.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 23, 2009 -> 11:09 PM) Something like the first 42 or 43 games they had a lead IIRC. I think it was 38.

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Dec 23, 2009 -> 01:26 PM) http://www.tauntr.com/content/bradley-take...s-fans-rot-hell LOL Way better than the Onion.

QUOTE (1977 sox fan @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 10:34 PM) well your not the Yankees 11mil for them is 3mil for the sox They still have to take money into account.

The Braves are looking at Glaus. If they seriously traded Vazquez just to sign somebody like Glaus, that might be the worst trade ever.

Pathetic. And I was thinking that the Bulls would be something decent this year. UGH...

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 05:24 PM) Whats the other reason of his improvement then? He learned a new pitch to add to his other 15? He has a 4.52 ERA in the AL, and I fully expect him to be around that for the Yanks. His GB/FB is .70 for those who wanted to know, which is below league avg. I like taking a look at Buehrle's stats compared to Javy to really see what kind of a pitcher he is. Mark is better in everything but K's, and that says alot. I think mental toughness might be one Buehrle has a huge advantage in.

QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 05:21 PM) So the Royals are paying Anderson 200k more than we are paying Andruw Jones? Now this is funny.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 01:39 PM) As our 5th starter, hell yes I'd want him back, just not at 10 million. Exactly, I wouldn't pay my 4th or 5th starters $11.5 million combined, let alone for one of them.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 22, 2009 -> 01:36 PM) So, are we #2 now that Vazquez is in NY? Probably not since NYY is not part of the top 3 now.