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God that 5th inning sucked. Had Jose not given up that single to Jones, we might still might be tied.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 09:54 PM) I understand he is lacking in regards of range compared to most of the other SS. But range is only one facet of defense. He hardly misplays a ball he can get to. Last year, according to "The Fielding Bible",Jeter only misplayed 17 balls he got to (not counting Errors), which was best among everyday SS's in the MLB. And if you added Errors, he's still the best of all MLB short stops. He'll have to move to 2B when he really slows down even more, but for the past 10 years or so, I'd say he's been perfectly fine there. Sure, he doesn't have great or range and his arm leaves something to be desired. But he makes all the routine plays, is usually the smartest player on the field, and is the leader of the infield. And like I already stated, he made up for whatever he lacked on D with his bat. He's not a horrible fielder or a butcher out there, but he isn't a GG. There's been countless analysis on Jeter. Basically, Jeter does the things you said he does well. He makes the plays he can get to. Thing is, how many balls did he not get to? That's the thing. It's great that he made the plays on the balls he could get to, but when he can't get to a ball that a fairly average SS can get to, you have yourself a problem. According to Bill James and his Plus/Minus system, Jeter missed 93 routine plays in 2005. That's a whole lot of plays to be missing when a normal SS would have no problems getting to the ball. Jeter has a lot of good intangibles and he's one of the best offensive SS in our era. But that doesn't excuse him from being a totally below average SS.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 02:59 PM) Yankees took the lead, 2-1. It's pretty fun rooting for them. Yeah, I've found that out too. It's a little weird.

This team always seems to mail it in when they've won the series. Every interview I hear, players are out to "win series". Yeah, we get it, but you should sweep the Orioles when they're the worst road team in the AL and have a pitcher on the mound with a ERA above 5.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 02:50 PM) What is our starting pitchers' ERA at now? Seems like it's probably gone up .25 points or so in the last 7 games. Our lowest team ERA this year was like 3.96. That was only a couple of weeks ago. It's now up to 4.2 something.

QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) you guys can forget about winning the division now, the Twins signed Mark Grudzielanek At least he's a better hitter than Nick Punto. Not a horrible signing.

If we're not going to give Poreda regular work, send him down. Because those 2 walks were a perfect example of why he shouldn't be in the bullpen. Seriously, our long relief has been complete utter s***. Walks out of the bullpen almost hurt more than grand slams.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 09:28 PM) Considering he's never played a single pitch at SS in his Major League career, that's a pretty big stretch. You don't have to be very good to be better than Derek Jeter. If you take a look at his UZR numbers and his Plus/Minus numbers from the past, it would scare you. Here's a glimpse into how bad he has been... In the past three seasons, Derek Jeter is a -68 at SS in terms of Plus/Minus. Nobody has been worse. The next closest is Hanley Ramirez at -40. Jeter has a career UZR of -39.3 and that's only been over 8 seasons since they started recording the stat. His UZR/150 is -5.7. That means he's going to give up at least 6 runs a year due to his defense. Of course, he does make up for it on offense. This has been the only year in which his UZR is actually above 0, but I don't know how much longer that will last.

And the Cubs have won again against those awesome Nationals. Randy Wells got hit around.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) I wouldn't say he is bad. He's certainly no GG'er out there and is over hyped by the media, but he makes most of the routine plays with a few great players here and there, is very smart out there, and acts like the leader of the INF the SS needs to be. Plus, his bat certainly makes up for what you lose in D. You can do a whole lot worse at SS than Derek Jeter. If Gordon Beckham can play SS as good as Jeter, I'd be f***ing ecstatic. I'm pretty sure Gordon's already better.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 09:13 PM) On Baseball Tonight, they're trying to say that Derek Jeter isn't a bad defensive shortstop. He's been decent this year, surprisingly. But historically, no.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 08:32 PM) I was on board to go after him. The sox could have made a decent offer. Two slap hitting outfielders? No thanks.

Wouldn't it be something for Milwaukee to acquire two big name pitchers in two straight years and still not win anything? Talk about giving up the future for an NL Central title... Their rotation still wouldn't look that good with Halladay. 1. Halladay 2. Gallardo 3. Bush 4. Suppan 5. Looper The Cards' rotation can certainly compete with that.

5-0 now on Fox Saturday Baseball. If it means a win, I'll take Dick Stockton's horrible play by play. Bobby's starting to worry me a little bit. But then again, he's always bad against the O's.

It's Detroit vs. Rivera. 2-1 Yankees.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 11:02 AM) It's not like he was doing good this year. He had no control and would be forced to throw his straight fastball down the middle in hitters counts. Until he finds some control, he'll never be anything more than an over hyped SU man. He's lost the Tigers a lot of games. Kind of sucks that he won't be there to blow games anymore.

At the time we lost to Bergesen, he looked like another nobody. But surprisingly, he's 6-3 with a 3.54 ERA. That's pretty damn good, especially on the O's.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 17, 2009 -> 06:51 PM) Another problem with Teahen is that he's pretty much abysmal in RF/LF and at 2B. He's so-so at 3B, which MIGHT be better than Beckham, but not by much. So the question is whether the offensive upgrade of Teahen over the Getz/Nix platoon is worth it, and the cost of acquisition. And a lot depends on CQ. If we know he's not coming back, getting Teahen's LH bat in the line-up does make a lot more sense, because we're definitely at least one bat short still with Pods' injury history, Anderson/Wise and Getz/Nix (maybe still a tick below MLB average if you combine them, but they're not killing us, either). Teahen sucks at 2B and 3B. But he's not a bad LF. His UZR -0.7 while he played 2B for a couple of games this year. He's also had only one year where his UZR at 3B was above 0. He's below average this year at a -3.7. In LF this year, his UZR is a decent 1.9, which is pretty much what Scott Podsednik will give you.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 17, 2009 -> 03:05 PM) Didn't Macdoofus make the all-star team as a royal? That was back in 2003. We got him in 2006.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 17, 2009 -> 02:21 PM) Utah has matched on Millsap. I expect Boozer to be a Bull by the end of the weekend. I just wish the Bulls organization gets wise and gets rid of Kirk. You can get similar production out of a Steve Blake off your bench. Kirk isn't that valuable. I'd much rather have Boozer than Tyrus and Hinrich, even if that means Boozer might only play 50 games a year.

The only time where Ozzie went to the extreme with his starters was the 05 playoffs...and for good reason.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 17, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) I'm kind of tired of getting Royal players. So can we quit the Teahan talk? See, there's a difference between getting good Royals players and bad Royals players. It just so happens that we've acquired a lot of bad ones before. They were even bad on the Royals... You're telling me you wouldn't want Joakim Soria, Zack Greinke, Mark Teahen, or David DeJesus? Those are guys who were actually successful on the Royals.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 17, 2009 -> 08:40 AM) he's spot on Spot on at getting them wrong... He's not there to do them perfectly, he's there to exaggerate them.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 17, 2009 -> 12:16 PM) Rios is just too much of a risk even if the Jays swallowed half his contract I think. His numbers have declined badly since 2007, and this season he has a .634 OPS away from the Skydome. In fact over his career, his OPS is almost .100 less in away matches than it is at home. Plus he's not very good defensively in CF, so you'd probably have to play him in RF. He's actually been a very good outfielder all-around. His UZR/150 in all 3 outfield positions are all in the +10 range.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jul 17, 2009 -> 11:12 AM) I'm thinking the only way we get Teahen is if Getz is included in a deal for a starting pitcher first. You only make a deal if CQ isn't completely healthy and productive. Put Teahen out in left field. It works.