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I will regret (for probably ever at this rate or maybe if we luck out with a new owner) not coming back from Champaign for the clinching games.

QUOTE (Carpe Diem @ Oct 20, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) There is nothing wrong with "Guaranteed Rate Field" other than the location. The White Sox are blessed to play in a city that features one of the best skylines in the world and one of the biggest lakes in the world. WHY NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT SCENERY?!?! There is absolutely no excuse the White Sox not having a SF Giants like ballpark on the water facing the city. You want to stop being a second class organization? SHOW SOME VISION! JR won't open the checkbook to sign a big time free agent, they're not getting a new ballpark anytime soon and even then it will require a massive subsidy from the city which I hope never happens.

I've decided I want the cubs to make the Series but lose in 7. Best of both worlds

Sign Riddick Sign Wieters Trade for McCutchen Figure out something with Melky Move Frazier to 1B, Abreu to DH, and pull a new 3b out of thin air Hope Shields isn't a high school pitcher Hope Gonzalez wasn't a flash in the pan Hope Rodon takes and maintains a major leap Hope Burdi comes up and dominates . . . Win 79 games

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Sep 29, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) The criticism of JR and of the White Sox is unwarranted. There is no proven correlation between spending on free agents and a team's success. There have been bad moves like Shields and LaRoach, but there have been some good transactions like Abreu, Eaton, Quintana and Sale. JR has spent enormous money on the White Sox and on the Bulls. MJ had the largest player Contract in history. There is a LOT of luck involved in Sports from Drafting players, trades and in the way the ball bounces in games. I am sick and tired of the hand wringing and the finger pointing. Mistakes have been made but baseball is just a game, so there s nothing earth shattering about that. As a Sox fan, just try to look forward to some changes and additions to the team for next season. 29 other teams will be trying to do the same thing. I remember about this time in 2003 when Sox fans were all down and depressed. Things turned around quickly and that can happen again. There is WAY more to ownership than just "spend or don't spend" and I put most of the blame on JR. It starts at the top and if you're owner is stuck in his ways there's not much you can do but hope to hit the lottery on draftpicks or scrap heap pickups.

Not watching a single game next year if this is true.

Kept up my usual trajectory. April - super hyped, live and die with every game May - still hyped (this is new territory in the last 4 years) June - paying attention, but starting to see who they really are July - paying less attention August - occasionally look up highlights, keep up with key players Sept - Don't care at all, despise the franchise and promise I'll stop supporting them April 2017 - spend $400 on opening day tickets, rinse repeat.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 20, 2016 -> 11:04 AM) The blame here rests squarely on Robin's shoulders. They've got guys like Abreu, Frazier and Q that lead by example, character and grit. They've got intense, win-at-all-cost players like Eaton, Lawrie, Sale and Rodon. Anderson and Saladino seem like they've got fire. Avi busts his ass. Robin needs to get everyone else rallied. Seems like he can't. Can't wait for Coach Thome or Rowand for the next 4 years.

Tradebacks?

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Sep 2, 2016 -> 08:47 AM) Pirates farm system is loaded so they will be decent at minimum over next decade. My called shot is the Sox going "all in" and trading for McCutchen this off-season.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) I hate to throw in the towel for next year already but I think we all know deep down they are going to do the same type of roster moves that were made last year. I think we're going to have this type of season until Sale & Q are both gone in a few years and they're forced to try a new strategy other than "throw a bunch of s*** at the wall and hope it sticks with our 2 Cy Young candidates"

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 1, 2016 -> 10:58 AM) I also have little interest in trading two all-star pitchers. Pitching is the name of the game. Sale, Quintana and Rodon and add Fulmer and either Shields or Gonzalez and you have a pretty solid group. It's the bullpen that needs help Outside of the bullpen, offense, coaching, scouting, and front office the Sox are in good shape.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Aug 30, 2016 -> 07:44 PM) What's your point? Probably that most people are done with the Avi experiment at this point and would take a pass on Avi 2.0 + clubhouse cancer

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 26, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) Unless he gets picked 3rd again, his rookie contract will most likely be smaller. That doesn't matter for the mighty Bosa tycoons though. The funny thing with this offset language argument is that so rarely matters anyway, especially with the 3rd overall pick. Since he was effectively the #1 pick (disregarding over-reach QB desperate teams) I can't see him dropping a ton. As long as he's top 7ish it's probably worth it (assuming he doesn't end up rolling with Cleveland or something)

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 26, 2016 -> 10:48 AM) The issue would be is he any closer to free agency if he sits out the year. That is a year of prime earnings that he losses if the rookie contract extends for a year. I don't think it makes any difference. He skips a year of wear and tear of the NFL and is just a year older for FA. Not playing for San Diego is probably worth that

I'd like a trade of either Sale or Q for a package that has MLB ready hitters, keep the rest + add another bat, then blow it all up at the deadline when they're 10 games under again.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) They are messing around. They are f***ing idiots. They want him to take a deal that other #3 picks don't take. They want him to take a deferred Signing Bonus but they also want to recoup money if he's injured or cut prior to his deal ending. If he goes back into next year's draft at age 22, the Chargers receive nothing in return. This is firmly on the Chargers at this point. "Holding strong" over a few dollars basically right? Absolute worst case scenario, Bosa has a career ending injury or something in his rookie year the Chargers are out what? A couple million? Instead they're standing their ground, hurting their team, and adding a potential new worst case scenario of losing a #3 pick in the draft? Solid strategy.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 01:22 PM) Yeah, that's really nice that our front office just automatically inserted elite numbers for presumed elite players and ostensibly filled up the rest of the lineup with hot replacement level garbage, in a hope that the dumpster would catch fire seems philosophically sound to me Uhh, I despise the ownership/FO as well...but are you saying you can never ever bank on a player being good? Always assume the worst? That makes absolutely no sense and would be impossible to ever have a competitive team. With that logic we should only sign 1 year deals and replace the entire roster every winter right?

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) Who knows? He's maybe having his best month ever....right now. But to your point....what's exactly the line of thinking, here? That we built this entire team around the expectation that Jose Abreu would be able to automatically duplicate one rookie season's worth of elite numbers? That Jose Abreu would absolutely clobber everything at that same .317/40 homer clip, and that he's somehow a "disappointment" for not doing so? That he f***ed the Sox because the front office built the whole team around that ridiculous expectation? Did this fanbase and front office learn absolutely nothing from Gordon Beckham and his rookie year/subsequent years? Or any other player with standard dropoff type things? I mean...does this front office know anything about the game of baseball, in general? You have to build around people eventually, you can't just assume every single player is Gordon Beckham. The Sox FO thought they had 1 of the best hitters in the game for 4+ cheap years. The "3 year plan" or whatever was predicated on having (young/controlled/cheap): 2 elite starters + 1-2 more on the way shortly after, 2 elite bats (Eaton/Abreu), and a lot of luck.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 24, 2016 -> 10:56 AM) You know what would be pretty cool at this point? If everyone who said Abreu was "finished" and that MLB pitching had "figured him out" owned up and said they were wrong not that it will happen that way I wouldn't say "finished" but this team was based around him being an "elite" bat, not just a pretty good/solid bat. I still don't think we'll see him get back to the level he was at as a rookie.

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 11:23 PM) I hope Hawk will stay as long as he can do the job. Listening to Benetti ths season makes me appreciate Hawk all the more. Benetti is just awful. He distracts himself from the game by engaging in silly bantar with Stone and trying to appear clever and funny, which he isn't. Then a ball gets hit to short Left field and Benetti, consumed within his own conversation, finally reacts, "There's a ball hit deep to left Fi--el--ddddd.....oh it's caught by..." It becomes obvious that he isn't paying as much attention to the game as he is with formulating his next quip. Meanwhile, he has no feel for how hard the ball was hit, the trajectory, or whether the outfielder has already zoned it in and is on a clear path to make the catch. I am used to former major league players....pros in the announcing booth. Benetti is a disciple of Len Kaspar, and not a very good one. Sox need to make a change next season. Perhaps put Benetti on the radio side and get another play-by-play man for home gemes. Yeah all Hawks stories about golfing & Yaz..his inability to tell a fly ball from a homer anymore...constant awkward silences with Stone...all around makes for a great "mute" broadcast option.

Put Abreu on a keto diet to drop 100lb so we can convert him to a speed CF'er to match the slappy singles hitter he is now

Trade for Mccutchen and sign Wieters. Win 79 games

Is there any sort of return-policy or take-backs on the Duke trade that we can call upon?

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Aug 2, 2016 -> 05:26 AM) They can DH/1B Frazier and Abreu and move Saladino to 3B. Or they can DH/1B Frazier and Abreu and move Lawrie to 3B and Saladino to 2B. If they made this move they would have to fill the remaining holes by signing Ramos and Desmond. I'm sure that will add ~$35 mill annually to the payroll. If Tilson panned out for CF they could do something like sign Encarnacion/Trumbo and Ramos. We couldn't pick up a single guy from this loaded off season and now we're going to acquire Ramos/Desmond/Encarnacion in 1 off season and commit probably around 200-250 million? Nahhhhh